Thorfire S70 clone ?

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“Funny how I really hope this light gets delivered any time soon Wink”

Me also, The Miller Smile
Stuff regularly takes 4-6 weeks to reach me when bought from China through ebay, where GB & BG generally takes 10-15 days, so to early to worry yet.
If it turns out to have LB emitters, poor driver & internals etc I will mod it into an S70/L6 type light & probably bump the amps up above either of those stock Thumbs Up
If it turns out to be an S70 (stranger things have happened) then happy days & if nothing arrives then paypal will refund.
At the $19 I paid there is really nothing to lose IMO Wink

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In retrospect, the clone emitters I pulled from the ebay SRK light were actually doing a pretty good job. Beam profile and overall color accuracy was maybe even better than the Cree XM-L’s I put in it, and the jump from 1683 to 1811 lumens may very well have been the larger 20 ga wires. I have no idea of course as to whether or not they would have made more or less heat, but getting 1800 lumens from 9 emitters means none of them are being driven hard enough to really make much heat, even combined. Wink

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DB Custom wrote:
In retrospect, the clone emitters I pulled from the ebay SRK light were actually doing a pretty good job. Beam profile and overall color accuracy was maybe even better than the Cree XM-L’s I put in it, and the jump from 1683 to 1811 lumens may very well have been the larger 20 ga wires. I have no idea of course as to whether or not they would have made more or less heat, but getting 1800 lumens from 9 emitters means none of them are being driven hard enough to really make much heat, even combined. Wink

I have noticed the same thing with the SRK’s I have played with. The LB LED’s actually do a reasonably good kob if you mod the driver for more current. They can generally make 3000+ lumens without a lot of hassle depending on how many there are.

Plus since they have a smaller die they generally have a better beam profile and more throw then an XM-L2

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yeah B-H, but I really do not want to get refunded on this, I reallylike to receive the light (same reasons as you state)

Oh I have a quad SRK clone with LB leds in a beautiful warm white tint, no need to swap those.
Recently received a 7 LED SRK clone with LEDs I cannot figure out what LEDs thay are (not the normal LB and surely not Cree) but the tint is good too.

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The Aluminum mcpcb was laid on the shelf of the SRK with no thermal paste whatsoever. Totally dry.
A copper heat sink will certainly help it, even an aluminum heat sink to give solid support across the bottom of the mcpcb would make a lot of difference. Will have to find out if it’ll support threads, might have to make a press fit but should be able to sandwich a heat sink between the mcpcb and driver ground ring even if it won’t accept threads. We’ll see. (I like copper, I like the heft it gives a light, so y’all pretty much know what I’ll end up doing…)

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Hey, what do y’all think about that picture of the 9 emitters? Got a new (older model) Canon S90 camera that is barely larger than a pack of smokes, really pleased with the shots it takes! Big Smile (means I don’t have to lug out a bunch of bigger equipment to get a few fast shots of a lights guts and such)

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very nice pic!

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yeah B-H, but I really do not want to get refunded on this, I reallylike to receive the light (same reasons as you state)

Oh I have a quad SRK clone with LB leds in a beautiful warm white tint, no need to swap those.
Recently received a 7 LED SRK clone with LEDs I cannot figure out what LEDs thay are (not the normal LB and surely not Cree) but the tint is good too.

Yes I don“t want to have a refund either The Miller Thumbs Up
Hoping for either a 2 × 26650 host to mod or better to arrive Wink
Have a look at my ebay link, this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3000LM-XHP70-LED-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Searchlight-Torch-Camping-6-Modes-Light-/131903641196?var=&hash=item1eb611d66c:m:mZRK3prgpvDIdArTxSroHgA
What does that look & sound like ?
Even shows an illuminated mode switch in the beam pictures under the main picture.
Only difference between that one & the one I have bought is my seller claims 5,000 lumens as opposed to 3,000 & my sellers ad dosen“t show the illuminated mode switch.
They are both described as VastFire S70 XHP70 tactical torches & buy it now price is comparable with a genuine Thorfire S70.
Who knows what we will receive Question

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DB Custom wrote:
In retrospect, the clone emitters I pulled from the ebay SRK light were actually doing a pretty good job. Beam profile and overall color accuracy was maybe even better than the Cree XM-L’s I put in it, and the jump from 1683 to 1811 lumens may very well have been the larger 20 ga wires. I have no idea of course as to whether or not they would have made more or less heat, but getting 1800 lumens from 9 emitters means none of them are being driven hard enough to really make much heat, even combined. Wink

Hey,

nice image, I have a very similar SkyRay light, almost the same board (labeled HND-XGP-7), only the 7 emitter version, but I have the same LB XM-L clones on it: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/941985#comment-941985

You´re right, the light they make is actually not bad, cold white of course, but not too blueish. I also like the beam structure of the torch. The 7 emitter version outputs maybe 1200 real lumens that means below 200 lumens per LED … not much. Nevertheless I decided to use thermal paste on the ledge where the “dry” board sits on to have at least some kind of heat transfer to the body and BOY does this thing get hot when running on high for 20 minutes!

One of the major advanges of these cans for me is that the cells are parallel, that means it also runs with one cell.
It actually makes a good camping light if you´re running it on low mostly.
K.

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Bad notice
the seller is no more registered…
close their ebay account today
so will be better open paypal dispute immediately to avoid lost money or from resolution center ebay?

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Iam in the same boat, damn that sucks. Mine said it would be here by aug 22nd-sept 16th. Never done s PayPal dispute this should be interesting.

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The question is if open dispute now or waiting.
I think wait is risk because the scammer can take away our money and close their Paypal account.
But open Dispute now after 10 days of order is much soon ?
does paypal have a cash fund for refounds?

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I think you have to wait until after the estimated delivery date passes to open a dispute.

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yes but also paypal staff can check that he is a scammer and money back will be instant
don’t have experience in this situation

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damn Im in the same boat Sad

U can lodge a dispute and the seller have certain days to reply otherwise you can escalate the process to get paypal step into the matter.

I knew this is fishy

Nico -.-

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Ah dang he was very responsive and I received a message yesterday.

Now a good test, if this would happen on AliExpress this is about the time I would receive a message and refund “your order has been cancelled and refunded due to suspicious seller activity”
Zoo what is eBay going to do?

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I ordered too , before 22-23 days .
This is what it says under my orders : http://prntscr.com/cbniad

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Got his email address since I asked for an invoice instead of doing auctions
I asked if he can provide tracking or if I should start a dispute
Just send the mail, let you guys know if and what he answers.

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giorgoskok wrote:
I ordered too , before 22-23 days .
This is what it says under my orders : http://prntscr.com/cbniad

same me
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I messaged him on the 26th asking for tracking details & he immediately replied saying that the light was on it“s way & that he had sent it “economy” delivery with no tracking.
I then messaged him back asking if he could confirm whether the light was in fact a genuine Thorfire S70 & if the emitter was a genuine Cree XHP70 emitter, he didn“t reply Facepalm
Under my purchases it just says “This user is no longer registered on eBay.”
I ordered mine on 29th July so 31 days ago.
Do I have to raise a paypal dispute or will I be refunded automatically as I have never had this scenario before where a seller has disappeared ?

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Don’t worry people, ebay has your back. Once the shipping estimate has elapsed you can open a dispute on ebay and since the user is no longer registered they will refund you within a day usually. It doesn’t matter if the seller has the money in his account or not.

Having been scammed by many buyers on ebay in the past, ebay’s hard as a rock, unflinching, unfair, stupid policy is that the buyer is ALWAYS right. No matter what. No matter how obvious it is they are ripping the seller off. The buyer ALWAYS wins the dispute unless the buyer flat out admits he is scamming the seller and/or is blackmailing the seller.

I have never had a case that ebay would even consider closing in my favor, even when someone cut the cord off a DVD player, clearly it was a clean cut and I had picture proof it was not cut before shipping. Still ebay said the buyer would win the case without question and said there is not a single thing I could have or would do to change the outcome. The buyer would simply win the case unless they admitted to cutting the cord.

So basically instead of having a “dispute” you have to try to play mind games with the buyer and get them to admit to ripping you off in the official ebay dispute channel, they will not accept messages from any other source.

Ebay is a buyers paradise, I now buy with zero fear what so ever on ebay.

The sad part is how easy it is for the little sellers to get ripped off and even small amounts of money can cause massive issues. For example one dispute was finished after the buyer realized he just didn’t understand the CD player.

Well then a few weeks later he decides to click the close dispute button and ebay sided in his favor and within minutes pulled the funds out of my account but there was not enough in my paypal for the refund. So they then go to my back account and pull it out of there, which set in motion about 4 accounts bouncing that day and frantically having to rearrange money before the end of the day when everything would go on file.

Had I not noticed and fixed all of this in time the fees would have easily been $75+ not to mention bouncing several accounts and an important bill. All because someone would not just say that while it was their problem and not mine they still wanted a refund.

Sorry, /Rant off

Basically don’t worry, you won’t loose any money.

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Amen to Texas Ace Smile

will someone give him a beer Big Smile

Nico -.-

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Nicolicous wrote:
Amen to Texas Ace Smile

will someone give him a beer Big Smile

Or koolaid, never felt the need to force myself to like the taste of beer lol. Sick

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You all can probably file your disputes now even if the delivery date has not elapsed. The vendor is no longer registered on Ebay.

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So too god to be true!?

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Paypay told me earlier that although the seller is no longer registered on ebay I must wait until after the latest delivery date has passed, in my case that was 16th August-8th September so after 8th September before they can look into it as the seller may have sent the item before de-registering.
If I haven“t received the light after that date I should get a full refund on the grounds that the item has not been received by me.

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In my experience, Ebay isn’t very fond of Paypal disputes being filed on purchases with through them. So I always file direct with Ebay. Haven’t had to go to PP yet for an Ebay purchase. I ordered 2 of this vendors lights and have opened disputes for them. Neither is past the vendor’s stated delivery dates. Ebay may not settle them until those dates are past, but in the past they have just ruled in my favor when the vendor become unregistered.

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He has not replied to my email Sad
Was looking forward to this light.

TA, dang that is not cool!
Being unfair to sellers is shooting yourself in the foot.

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George, what bike is that in your Avatar? It makes me really wish I were still riding… Wink

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