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Thanks CRX.

Depends, could be done to my satisfaction in 2 hours, more or less. But usually get the Do-Over after pics, +45min. And that includes stripping anno.
No machine work, all by hand. Buffing wheels will smear the surface. Mirror finish is hand work and prep.

Most affordable flashlights are cast not turned on a lathe. Anno coatings cover a lot of imperfections. Pressure casting produces pretty good density and can be polished glass smooth. Was working on a VG-10 last night and I could see 3 lines the length of body, 3 piece casting mould, pressure cast. Guess one could also say Forged. Nothing wrong with that and can easily be made stronger than if it were made on a lathe from billet stock. Sure a cast body will need some finish work on a lathe, most is done after coating, to expose metal for continuity. You may also see machine lines in a cast product, because the mould was machined and density of the pressure cast will show that detail. I was impressed with the quality of the housing on the VG-10. It polished out pretty sweet.

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I opened up the S41S bezel today.
The optic is not shrouded by the bezel anymore.
Yesterday i sanded down the bottom of the bezel because it had a loose lens.

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Wow, that polish looks great!

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I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:(
I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

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LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Oh that’s great. Facepalm

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LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Kind of figured it would be the old version, didn’t really care either way since I planned on using the one I ordered as a host anyway.

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LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:(
I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?
Tired
Kind of glad now i didn’t order one yesterday..
They’re back to full price now.
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LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Since the description said it was the new version technically you can file a case when you get it if it is the old one and you will win automatically.

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Texas_Ace wrote:
LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Since the description said it was the new version technically you can file a case when you get it if it is the old one and you will win automatically.


I wonder if that’s still the case after a notification like that.
LightRider could have cancelled the order to avoid the risk.
just saying…
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Jerommel wrote:
I wonder if that’s still the case after a notification like that. LightRider could have cancelled the order to avoid the risk. just saying…

lol, it is the case even if it showed up 100% correct, working and with an extra light in the package as a free bonus.

Sadly ebay and aliexpress are a scammers paradise for buyers. A buyer NEVER losses a case unless they flat out admit they are scamming the seller, in the official dispute message system. They can call you, email you, text you and even send you a telegram explaining exactly how they are scamming you and that they plan to do it again and they will still win the case.

Once you are on the sellers side of these cases a few times you loose ANY fear of buying online and realize it is truly a zero risk enterprise. Don’t want it or want a discount or even free? Start a dispute over some made up issue and boom, you at worst get a free return, even if the item said 100 different ways, no returns accepted, broken junk.

Or you get a partial refund from the seller in an effort to just make you go away and not have the case escalated. The seller knows they will loose and it is a MAJOR infraction for ebay / aliexpress to have to step in to say the buyer wins, so the seller has to bend over and kiss the buyers behind, no matter how obvious the scam is.

Many times the buyer will simply end up with a free item as the seller would end up loosing even more money by paying for return shipping not to mention he hassle and many times the returned item will be an old item that the buyer simply wanted to “exchange”. So it is easier to just cut your losses and refund the whole thing.

Sadly buyer know this to be the case and abuse it far to much.

As a buyer myself I simply buy without fear of any kind. I just keep in mind that while I can get items for free, it hurt the seller way more then people like to think unless it truly is an issue.

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Anyone know of a diffuser cap or cone that fits the S41?

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TA, do you think eBay and the like have a warning system to identify such people? For example if %75 of purchases over the last month have been disputed, they lock the account. I would think they would have some way to monitor this. They are not dumb to it so I wonder if they keep an eye out for this behavior?

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Jerommel wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:
LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Since the description said it was the new version technically you can file a case when you get it if it is the old one and you will win automatically.


I wonder if that’s still the case after a notification like that.
LightRider could have cancelled the order to avoid the risk.
just saying…

My order was marked as shipped almost immediately after I placed the order. Hmm? Think the seller wanted to get them out before word got around?

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LightRider wrote:
TA, do you think eBay and the like have a warning system to identify such people? For example if %75 of purchases over the last month have been disputed, they lock the account. I would think they would have some way to monitor this. They are not dumb to it so I wonder if they keep an eye out for this behavior?

Yeah, they claim to do this but I nor any other seller I know has gotten more then empty promises from them that they will look into it.

I mean if someone is blatantly ripping sellers off right and lift then there have been a few cases I know of where the buyers account was suspended. That doesn’t help any of the sellers he scammed though and he just creates a new account and does it again.

Sellers on the other hand, watch out, just 1 or 2 infractions can be enough to ruin your account standing and thus your ability to sell anything. Particularly low volume sellers.

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My order was marked as shipped almost immediately after I placed the order. Hmm? Think the seller wanted to get them out before word got around?

Nah, pretty normal. I generally have this happen with my orders. You are penalized if you do not ship things on time so rather then actually shipping things on time most sellers system automatically buy a shipping label and say it was “shipped” even though no human even knows something sold yet. Pretty standard operating procedure now days sadly due tot he heavy penalties of shipping something later then you stated.

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LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

ouch, that’s some bad news :s

I also ordered one yesterday… so, if I understood well, there are only two differences:

1) the head was modified this way:

to prevent the opticts to crush the leds

2) no more threadlock

am I right? did anybody find a good solution for problem #1?

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oleg007 wrote:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Astrolux-S41S-Stainless-Steel-Mini-4-7mo...LED/32782993188.html

Strong first post.

The store also has a coupon for $2 off dropping the price down to $25.70!

I could not resist, I had to grab one for that price.


Now the price is on $38 like the codes on banggood.com.

A solution for the other head is change the leds and rasp the optics a bit down, that there can not be contact between optics and LED.
The other solution is to get a refund because of the wrong description. I have ordered one for the low price.

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Wieselflinkpro wrote:
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oleg007 wrote:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Astrolux-S41S-Stainless-Steel-Mini-4-7mo...LED/32782993188.html

Strong first post.

The store also has a coupon for $2 off dropping the price down to $25.70!

I could not resist, I had to grab one for that price.


Now the price is on $38 like the codes on banggood.com.

A solution for the other head is change the leds and rasp the optics a bit down, that there can not be contact between optics and LED.
The other solution is to get a refund because of the wrong description. I have ordered one for the low price.


I would think someone has found a good solution or modification that allows using the same leds?
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Are all the old version non-functionnal or can we get lucky ?

I bought two new/old versions from the aliexpress’s seller and i am not really happy about it… Facepalm

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Patrickbateman wrote:
Are all the old version non-functionnal or can we get lucky ?

I bought two new/old versions from the aliexpress’s seller and i am not really happy about it… Facepalm

Mine (S41S Colored with Nichia 219B) from the first batch actually still works and I have “tortured” it at least a bit.

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I’ve been using a first batch S41S with Nichia 219B as an EDC for about six weeks now, and it’s still OK. It gets a few minutes of use every day, mostly on the 50lm level, but I have run full test cycles on turbo as well.

The only glitch I’ve seen is that it occasionally drops into the configuration menu when I’m changing mode. I suspect ropey switch debouncing.

On a related note, one of my two original black aluminium S41 lights has failed after virtually no usage; it starts jumping around between random modes after it’s been on for a minute or two. Alternatively, Banggood may accidentally have shipped me a prototype of the never-released Astrolux S41 Limited Edition Christmas Tree Light Silly

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Well, fingers crossed, i guess. Wink

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Anyone know a summary of the reported problems with the first version?

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can anyone confirm that XP-G3 is quite hotter than Nichia version at the same amount of time period.

my xp-g3 version gets quite hot in even level 4 than the nichia model within about a minute.

I have seen that some say thermal paste is not enough and led plate does not touch the copper part properly and it cause the extra heat. is that true??

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ASTROS41S – invalid promo code.. any updates on the code? thank you Smile

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Coolcat2005dj wrote:
can anyone confirm that XP-G3 is quite hotter than Nichia version at the same amount of time period.

my xp-g3 version gets quite hot in even level 4 than the nichia model within about a minute.

I have seen that some say thermal paste is not enough and led plate does not touch the copper part properly and it cause the extra heat. is that true??

If there are problems with the heat path such as no thermal paste or port contact of the mcpcb to the host, the host will actually feel much cooler while your leds burn up. The faster a light heats up the better the thermal path. So in your case, the nichia host would be the one with problems, if there is a problem at all.

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Wieselflinkpro wrote:
A solution for the other head is change the leds and rasp the optics a bit down, that there can not be contact between optics and LED. The other solution is to get a refund because of the wrong description. I have ordered one for the low price.

I see: ok the optics, but why changing the leds?

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LightRider wrote:
Coolcat2005dj wrote:
can anyone confirm that XP-G3 is quite hotter than Nichia version at the same amount of time period.

my xp-g3 version gets quite hot in even level 4 than the nichia model within about a minute.

I have seen that some say thermal paste is not enough and led plate does not touch the copper part properly and it cause the extra heat. is that true??

If there are problems with the heat path such as no thermal paste or port contact of the mcpcb to the host, the host will actually feel much cooler while your leds burn up.

Not necessarily.
The MCPCB will get much hotter and the efficiency of the LEDs will be bad, so in all there will be more energy transferred into heat, and the only way the heat can go is the pill, so eventually the light will get hotter when there is bad heat transfer to the body.
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The faster a light heats up the better the thermal path.
That’s true though.
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kiriba-ru wrote:
RollerBoySE wrote:

Now let’s see what I can use the original head for (before it fails)…
(it legos and works with an S2+, but doesn’t cover the o-ring properly (and I don’t really want to file down the tube, cause then the S2+ head won’t make contact any longer);
it’s a little bit short to make proper contact on an A6 from the first batch)

EDIT: Of course it legos well with the A6, turned out it was the tail section that wasn’t screwed on properly.


You should not try this. S2+ have 1.25 pitch metric thread while A6/S41 1.0 pitch metric thread.
Well, I dont wonder why manufactor is making changes and new parts dont fit older one. I wonder HOW astrolux/bangood have put two tubes (black S1) in one box with one flashlight that have 0.3mm OD threads difference.

I’m confused. I’ve just ordered the S41S, will I be able to use its head with my 18650 S1 tube (wich has 0,95 mm pitch)? I thought so because according to this http://www.banggood.com/it/Astrolux-S41-Astrolux-S1-LED-Flashlight-18650-Body-Tube-p-1054468.html at least S41 and S1 should have common threading… but now it seems that the S41S matches the S2+ body, which I also have and I confirm that has wider threads (1,2 mm pitch). So how is this thing?? does that mean that S41S and S41 have different threading? :s

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Jerommel wrote:
LightRider wrote:
Coolcat2005dj wrote:
can anyone confirm that XP-G3 is quite hotter than Nichia version at the same amount of time period.

my xp-g3 version gets quite hot in even level 4 than the nichia model within about a minute.

I have seen that some say thermal paste is not enough and led plate does not touch the copper part properly and it cause the extra heat. is that true??

If there are problems with the heat path such as no thermal paste or port contact of the mcpcb to the host, the host will actually feel much cooler while your leds burn up.

Not necessarily.
The MCPCB will get much hotter and the efficiency of the LEDs will be bad, so in all there will be more energy transferred into heat, and the only way the heat can go is the pill, so eventually the light will get hotter when there is bad heat transfer to the body.
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The faster a light heats up the better the thermal path.
That’s true though.

I’m sorry but that’s just not the way it works. If your s41 has an mcpcb that is separated from the led shelf your emitters will fry before your light barely gets worm. Ask me how I know;)

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