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Convoy S2+ does not fit Astrolux S41S

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Jerommel wrote:
Convoy S2+ does not fit Astrolux S41S

the user I quote in my last post wrote it did fit :confused: so you think it will not fit the convoy S2+ but it will instead fit the astrolux S1? (which is what I’m hoping for, of course. For the option of using the 18650 tube but also to use the aluminum 18350 tube+tailcap to shave some weight)

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fedcas wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Convoy S2+ does not fit Astrolux S41S

the user I quote in my last post wrote it did fit :confused: so you think it will not fit the convoy S2+ but it will instead fit the astrolux S1? (which is what I’m hoping for, of course. For the option of using the 18650 tube but also to use the aluminum 18350 tube+tailcap to shave some weight)

As you can see in the description
http://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-S41-Astrolux-S1-LED-Flashlight-18650-Body-Tube-p-1054468.html
S1 and S41 shares the same tube.

S41 and S41S have the same dimensions, just different materials.

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I just received my second S41S today. I waited until after the problems were sorted out before I ordered my first and it arrived awhile ago. All was good so I ordered a second. It’s good too.

I have noticed that some were complaining that theirs kicks down to moonlight after running on Turbo for the 35 seconds or so.

Both of mine do too, when running on an 18350 IMR from Radio Shack. However both of them kick down to level 6 from Turbo (level 7) when running on a 20Q 18650. I also ordered the longer tubes.

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RollerBoySE wrote:
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Convoy S2+ does not fit Astrolux S41S

the user I quote in my last post wrote it did fit :confused: so you think it will not fit the convoy S2+ but it will instead fit the astrolux S1? (which is what I’m hoping for, of course. For the option of using the 18650 tube but also to use the aluminum 18350 tube+tailcap to shave some weight)

As you can see in the description
http://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-S41-Astrolux-S1-LED-Flashlight-18650-Body-Tube-p-1054468.html
S1 and S41 shares the same tube.

S41 and S41S have the same dimensions, just different materials.

Yeah I linked the 18650 tube a few posts above, to show the same… hopefully my S41S will lego with my S1 (which is also the most logic thing to expect). It’s just so weird that every now and then someone shows up saying that their copy fits the S2+… and there’s even a picture showing that, more info here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1064813#comment-1064813

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A solution for the other head is change the leds and rasp the optics a bit down, that there can not be contact between optics and LED. The other solution is to get a refund because of the wrong description. I have ordered one for the low price.

I see: ok the optics, but why changing the leds?


If the LEDs are already punished by the optics and have “the blue light problem”
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Jerommel wrote:
Convoy S2+ does not fit Astrolux S41S

the user I quote in my last post wrote it did fit :confused: so you think it will not fit the convoy S2+ but it will instead fit the astrolux S1? (which is what I’m hoping for, of course. For the option of using the 18650 tube but also to use the aluminum 18350 tube+tailcap to shave some weight)

As you can see in the description
http://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-S41-Astrolux-S1-LED-Flashlight-18650-Body-Tube-p-1054468.html
S1 and S41 shares the same tube.

S41 and S41S have the same dimensions, just different materials.

Yes and no.
The separate sold tube fits both flashlights. But the threads of S1 tube are shorter as on the S41 and makes no contact to driver retaining ring.
It can be fixed with solder blobs on the driver.

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Wieselflinkpro wrote:
Yes and no. The separate sold tube fits both flashlights. But the threads of S1 tube are shorter as on the S41 and makes no contact to driver retaining ring. It can be fixed with solder blobs on the driver.

Wrong.
My S41S Colored head (from a light bought complete) fits perfectly (without any modification) on a body from a complete A6 (S1).
So is there more than one version of the A6/S1 or S41S?

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fedcas wrote:

Yeah I linked the 18650 tube a few posts above, to show the same… hopefully my S41S will lego with my S1 (which is also the most logic thing to expect). It’s just so weird that every now and then someone shows up saying that their copy fits the S2+… and there’s even a picture showing that, more info here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1064813#comment-1064813

!http://i.imgur.com/h2T2Q2X.jpg!


Once again:
All Convoy S-series have 1.25mm pitch thread
All A6/S1/S41/S41S have 1.0mm putch thread
But half of A6/S1/S41 tubes are smaller OD. They dont fit S2+, if you will use small force to put them out without screwing they will fall down.
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kiriba-ru wrote:
But half of A6/S1/S41 tubes are smaller OD.

Could you please be a bit more specific?

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RollerBoySE wrote:
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But half of A6/S1/S41 tubes are smaller OD.

Could you please be a bit more specific?


http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1057291#comment-1057291
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kiriba-ru wrote:
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But half of A6/S1/S41 tubes are smaller OD.

Could you please be a bit more specific?


http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1057291#comment-1057291

Thanks, I had missed that post.

Sounds like a bit of a mess…

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g_sintornillos wrote:
The head of manker E14 works fine with the tube of bare BLF A6 (OD 21.5mm)

!{width:99%}https://i.sli.mg/7rYnGM.jpg!


Sorry for the late reply. But thats not the question if the bare BLF A6 works with the E14 Head.
The problem of some black BLF A6 is that the threads are too short to reach the driver-retainer ring with its bare end to make contact with it.
The bare A6 makes contact on the threads, there is no need to have a contact between the end of the tube and the driver-retaining ring.
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RollerBoySE wrote:
kiriba-ru wrote:
RollerBoySE wrote:
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But half of A6/S1/S41 tubes are smaller OD.

Could you please be a bit more specific?


http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1057291#comment-1057291

Thanks, I had missed that post.

Sounds like a bit of a mess…

+1 for the mess :s :s :s

kiriba, thanks for your measures, now I am more confident that I will be able to lego the S41S head with the S1 parts how I wish Smile by the way, I have just measured all the S1 tubes that i have:

1) the 18650 and 18350 ones that came with the box are very consistent measuring exactly the same, both at the tail and at the head side: OD 21,72 mm and 1 mm pitch.

2) Also the other S41/S1 spare 18650 tube from banggood (clearly from a different manufacturer or at least batch, since the anodizing is much more matte than the S1 one and there are other minor differences in the geometry) has almost the same OD, less consistent between the tail and head side but it’s around 21,75-21,80 mm (the bigger difference is in the tube ID though… with this tube protected 18650 cells tend to get stuck inside)

kiriba-ru wrote:
Once again: All Convoy S-series have 1.25mm pitch thread All A6/S1/S41/S41S have 1.0mm putch thread But half of A6/S1/S41 tubes are smaller OD. They dont fit S2+, if you will use small force to put them out without screwing they will fall down.

Thanks! Wink you must be right this should be the only possible explanation… even though my S1 tube has 5 threads, and with 0.25 mm gap per thread that means after just 3 threads the crest of the internal threads will correspond with the crest of the external threads… no way this can be done smoothly I guess :s I’d rather say it should take quite some forcing to screw such parts together… too much animals around maybe :p?

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Wieselflinkpro wrote:
g_sintornillos wrote:
The head of manker E14 works fine with the tube of bare BLF A6 (OD 21.5mm)



Sorry for the late reply. But thats not the question if the bare BLF A6 works with the E14 Head.
Yes. The question was another
kiriba-ru wrote:
S41S short SS tube have 21.8mm threads OD. Cant enter S1 internals.
S1 short tube fits s41s but threads OD is 21.6mm.
S1 long tube goes trought threads in s41s head and tail because threads OD is just 21.3mm.
Im not saying about length difference, waterproof and etc., just threads fitting.
Can anyone measure bare a6 tubes from BG?
I think that answer was correct

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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Thank all.
Have just received S41 bare short tube.
21.8mm od, fits S41S head and tail perfectly. Still dont work with black S1.

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I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Since the description said it was the new version technically you can file a case when you get it if it is the old one and you will win automatically.

I received my Astolux S41S from Aliexpress today.
It is the new version of the head. It is not glued and has the new Layout to prevent blue LEDs. Thumbs Up
And it’s the old version of the driver. Wink That means it has black PCB at the driver and the tailcap. On the driver I can read “ALEX WELLS”. The tailcap has space bigger resistors and I can Read “DL036_K6”. The springs are the same as from banggood.

It was shipped on New Year and is now delivered. Very fast shipping!!!

All parts of this flashlight are cheaper as on banggood including our codes.
I think banggood makes a lot of money with this flashlights and the high price on their website.

I have written some mails with the banggood-support. For the separate tailcaps they wrote that there is a different quality on aliexpress. Banggood will loose money if the sell the tailcap for $6 as they wrote first (before the tailcap was listet on banggood). But the wasnt able to tell me whats the difference in quality with the tailcaps. I am not happy with the high price on banggood vs. the better price at aliexpress because I have bought some of the flashlights, tubes and tailcaps.

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Received mine from banggood and its superb! I might have gotten lucky but I have no problems so far with it. The PCB of the tailcap is yellow with two springs. Only thing is the oring of the battery tube is slighly too big so it get crushed.

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Wieselflinkpro wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:
LightRider wrote:
I just received a message from the aliexpress seller. Seller says it is NOT the newer version:( I had already ordered after seing the description that says it is new version. Hmm?

Since the description said it was the new version technically you can file a case when you get it if it is the old one and you will win automatically.

I received my Astolux S41S from Aliexpress today.
It is the new version of the head. It is not glued and has the new Layout to prevent blue LEDs. Thumbs Up
And it’s the old version of the driver. Wink That means it has black PCB at the driver and the tailcap. On the driver I can read “ALEX WELLS”. The tailcap has space bigger resistors and I can Read “DL036_K6”. The springs are the same as from banggood.

It was shipped on New Year and is now delivered. Very fast shipping!!!

All parts of this flashlight are cheaper as on banggood including our codes.
I think banggood makes a lot of money with this flashlights and the high price on their website.

I have written some mails with the banggood-support. For the separate tailcaps they wrote that there is a different quality on aliexpress. Banggood will loose money if the sell the tailcap for $6 as they wrote first (before the tailcap was listet on banggood). But the wasnt able to tell me whats the difference in quality with the tailcaps. I am not happy with the high price on banggood vs. the better price at aliexpress because I have bought some of the flashlights, tubes and tailcaps.

Wow, that’s good news !

I hope the two units i ordered will be the same as yours. LOL

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It’s strange though.
Some Astrolux products are much cheaper on Banggood, and some are much cheaper in the A.E. ‘Elfeland’ store.
And the prices fluctuate enormously too.

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hi guys! any updated promo code for s41s?

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Can someone briefly explain Astrolux S41 lumen levels.

I know max. = 1600 lu
How many seconds before it steps down?

Does it keep stepping down to moonlight or does it hold on a certain level below 1600 lu? I need 300-500 lu to remain on until I manually switch it off. Yes?

Do the step-down phases get longer or is it a fast rush down to moonlight?

thanks
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Flashlights with FET+1 drivers cant have constant regulated output more than 350mA. All modes over this current depends on many factors – cell internal resistance, springs and wires resistance, switch resistance, soldering quality, leds quantity and Vf, and cell voltage.

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The S41-series lights automatically step down from maximum after about 35 – 40 seconds. They then remain at the second highest mode – about 800 – 900lm on my Nichia-equipped units – until the user changes mode, switches off or the cell runs down.

However, you should step down manually from that mode when it gets too hot, or you are liable to damage the light.

The next mode down is about 400lm and seems to be fine for continuous operation. I run my S41-series lights on 18650 cells and I can get a couple of hours at that level, although they do slowly fall over that period to about 250lm before finally starting the low-voltage stepdown sequence. 18350 operation would probably be more like 30 – 40 minutes.

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Mine steps down from turbo straight to moonlight with 18650vtc6. It is strange because it doesn´t do that with 18350 Keeppower???

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Yeah, it´s a very annoying bug in the driver. My original S41 made by Manker does not have this, only the newer “Mateminco” models. Depends on which cell you´re using, seems like on 18650 high drain cells it happens more than on 18350 cells even if they are unprotected high drain versions.

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Ok, so it´s a common “problem”…My 18350 Keeppowers are unprotected imr ones.

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Sukoi wrote:
Mine steps down from turbo straight to moonlight with 18650vtc6. It is strange because it doesn’t do that with 18350 Keeppower???

Yeah, i just got my 18650 tube in the mail today, and i have the exact same as you describe (but i have VTC5 and ‘Enercig’ 18350).
Must say though, on VTC5 it’s considerably brighter and gets hotter much faster.
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Jerommel wrote:
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Mine steps down from turbo straight to moonlight with 18650vtc6. It is strange because it doesn’t do that with 18350 Keeppower???
Yeah, i just got my 18650 tube in the mail today, and i have the exact same as you describe (but i have VTC5 and ‘Enercig’ 18350). Must say though, on VTC5 it’s considerably brighter and gets hotter much faster.

I got my S41s quad nichia colored with 18650 extension tube recently from banggood. Mine steps down from turbo to high after about 40s. I am using this cell LG 18650 MJ1.

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Jerommel wrote:
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Mine steps down from turbo straight to moonlight with 18650vtc6. It is strange because it doesn’t do that with 18350 Keeppower???
Yeah, i just got my 18650 tube in the mail today, and i have the exact same as you describe (but i have VTC5 and ‘Enercig’ 18350). Must say though, on VTC5 it’s considerably brighter and gets hotter much faster.

Yep, same here, naturally with vtc6 too. Probably the different behaviour is heat related…?

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@MrJohnny:

Maybe it also has to do with the Vf of the LEDs.
Mine has XP-G3 which have the lowest Vf of the 3 options.
The 18650 VTC4, VTC5 and VTC6 are high drain cells (rated 30 Amperes) with very low internal resistance.
So i think my set up draws more Amperes than yours, because LG 18650 MJ1 is rated 10 Amperes.
Unfortunately i have no way to measure the current.

I’m not sure what it will do when the VTC5 is a little discharged (i tried a fully charged one), but maybe it’s only good that it drops down to low mode so it can seriously cool down after seriously heating up on 40 seconds “turbo”.

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