Jaxman X1 Host ??

Well the other day I blew it and thought I found a great deal on MT-G2’s at Hanks only to find out that everyone already knew and the sale had been going on forever,
I felt like an idiot and realized I’m always the last to know.
So prior to posting what I think is a great deal this time, I have looked up and down this deals thread and I don’t see this X1 host mentioned anywhere, but I do need new glasses,
I hope I’m not making a fool out of myself again so here goes,
Jaxman is finally selling the X1 host for 31.20 plus his darn shipping at $6.92
Jaxman X1 host
And please if everyone already knows about this and I am again the last one to find out, just evict me from the forum,
I’ll understand, and by the way this is a really high quality light IMO,
Thank You :blush:
Gary

Yes I have one on the way too.
Looking forward to receiving it!

Oh yeah please post your plans with it here:

Are you going to do a MTG2 with 26350 cells?

Wow you’ve got a thread already? Amazing, I think your talking in Pauls good ear and I’m talking in his bad one, like I said I am always the last to know ha ha,
Well the G20’s I have coming from Hanks forever sale would be a problem for the X1 reflector… But. hum
Originally I planned to put one into the X6 but I need reflectors with the XHP size emitter hole like Paul’s X6 XHP50 OP but in smooth like the X6 XML2 just bigger emitter hole, obviously he’s got the source but it’s getting him to deal, I always try and get parts for his measly 6% discount, like with the Z1’s I bought asked him to keep the 6% and send me more pills and that worked out great.
Dedomed G20’s with a X1 reflector…? I don’t think so, but maybe, drill well more like a reamer to enlarge an emitter hole perhaps, I wonder how screwed up that will make the X1 reflector?
Paul needs to sell more reflectors, after all the reflector pics he shows for the X6 with measurements are exactly the same as the L6 reflector, same size and style so he could sell a lot of those in smooth I bet.
I really have know idea what to do with this X1 host, it’s so good out of the box.
A new project, wish he had an extension, but I do like that idea of stacking cells, I was just looking at those 26350’s today, wasn’t sure why but am sure now… :laughing:

The X1 really is an unsung hero. The robust one piece construction, heavy brass pill, excellent anodizing, yeah, it’s a really sweet light and maybe smaller than some realize. With an XP-L HI in mine, I like it a lot!

Edit: To clarify, for those that haven’t seen this one, the brass pill threads in from the top and the bezel holds the lens and reflector in place over it. The entire head and battery tube are cut from one solid piece of aluminum, 6061 I believe, with the tail cap threaded on the bottom. Solid light with nice fins where they need to be… should be able to handle some serious overclocking. :wink:

How’s the beam on yours Dale, my X1 XPL-HI 5000k is kinda ringy, with the centering ring to the reflector base showing in the beam? Not a clear hot spot at all? My reflector has the stand off not a flat bottom base.

But it’s built like a tank!! :+1:

Not ringy, nice beam with an intense hot spot. I don’t really remember if/what I did anything to this when I got it. In other words, I don’t know if I built it or if it’s “stock”. No idea. It’s got 4 modes and doesn’t reverse so it’s not my usual A6/Bistro driver, other than that, I don’t know.

I do know that I like it quite a lot though! :slight_smile:

It’s just a camera phone shot, but it’s rings cloud(suspect centering ring) the hot spot and the angled reflector base shows up as a heavy ring?

KawiBoy that is not right at all, like Dale mine is also very very intense, You said a standoff not flat, I just opened mine and it’s the same but the reflector gasket is unique to me, it is what appears to me as glued to the board with what feels like dried Elmers glue and the gasket fits up into the reflector and the bottom of the reflector sets down into the gasket, very clean and well aligned, I’ve never seen a gasket glued down, but I have a hot spot like a lazer,
Dale forgot to mention this has the tri-pod screw mount also ha ha,
The style of this light is one of my favorites and I really can hardly think of anything that “needs” improving, but the driver could certainly be done away with, now if Paul at Jaxman would get the X6 and M8 smooth and some reflectors I’d be thrilled, more thrilled.
Edit: Wow if my light looked that bad I’d be emailing Jaxman

Yeah bro, that ring is wrong! Mine doesn’t do that at all, not even a hint of that.

I was going to mention the tripod screw but thought I’d leave ya some scraps to dig on. :stuck_out_tongue:

Scott, I just cracked mine open and it WILL make a ring like that if I pull the reflector up a bit. Yours must not be seated far enough down. My bezel was on REALLY tight.

Edit: Took mine further apart and I had put an LD-2 in it. Piggybacked onto the OEM contact board or driver. :wink:

The centering ring is epoxied on with some really strong stuff! I can get it off with my finger nail? :rage: So as far as I can surmise is the ring has to be sitting up on this stuff? Because now I can’t get the bezel off I tightened it so tight, :person_facepalming: I need a strap wrench now to get it off! :smiley:

The diameter of the reflector has nothing at all to do with what you’re describing. The issues are of focus, getting the XP-L HI to sit higher in the reflector will improve the focus. If, on some of the units, they got the epoxy too thick under that centering ring, then the result would be that the reflector is held too high and focus is skewed. Kawi knows this and when he’s able to work on it I’m sure he’ll fix it. This will come through removing that centering ring and making some adjustments to allow a better union of the emitter and reflector.

I’ll probably address this myself tomorrow although mine is quite satisfactory as it is.

Thank you for the information Dale but I had really thought KB would have corrected all my misinformation, but your help is as equally valuable for someone like me who is learning and is also learning the hard way I suppose that I should really just keep quit about my not so bright ideas whether they worked for me or not.
Using your information though or theory I guess, I was able to just adjust the pill up and down until I found the spot and tightened it up and it is now better than it was, so thanks I guess.
Did the preacher get his charger? Just wondering, hopefully it wasn’t to complicated or dangerous… :slight_smile:

Preacher got his light and charger, asked a lot of questions as he’d never had an Li-Ion light before. He’s got some new Wildcat load chambered in his hunting rifle and this Shooter 2X will be going on that. I’m not a hunter, so I don’t recognize the round, but it’s a necked up 6.8mm? Anyway, he’s tickled with the light and the ability to simply recharge the cells and have at it again so we’ll see how it works out for him.

I have spent the last couple of hours putting a 26mm MaxToch (25mm?) mcpcb under the Hi in my X1, now I have successfully made my light’s beam profile look like Kawi’s! lol

O.K. finally got home and had a chance to check this bad mama jamma out! Guess what I found, the centering ring was sitting on top of the hard azz epoxy, on and angle. When it was assembled, the bezel was super tight and it rolled the lip of the emitter hole up, distorting it? I replaced the mcpcb because I couldn’t get the epoxy off, I tried but scraped through the dielectric layer exposing the copper beneath, “wonderful”! :rage:

Re-flowed the emitter onto a new mcpcb, fired it up, No Joy, the ring was still there, because the reflector was still the problem. I chamfered the emitter hole to remove the damage and found a larger centering ring in my stash, replaced the driver while I was at it. This is how it turned out, after some fine tuning…

BEFORE - Aint that pretty :person_facepalming:

After - :+1: Much better!!! :wink:

Driver FETDD Vishay FET - 5.82amps at the tail on a 30Q 188kcd - not bad at all!

I could not remove all the damage, or tweak from the reflector base, but this will do for now, unless I can get a new reflector!

Yes I to had exactly the same issue as KB’s but after using almost the same fix KB described I also end up with nearly identical results,
Made me wonder though if this epoxy was some sort of attempt at focusing the reflector?
Reason I think that, and I’m probably wrong, but after I realized that with my light the pill can actually be screwed in further than what would be the normal depth, flat with the deck I believe, and then after Dale explained to me the principals behind focusing a reflector and what the cause and effect of a LED either sitting in closer to the reflector hole or pulled back away from the reflector hole, I then noticed just how far back my LED actually was sitting from my reflector, then looking closer for the cause I noticed that my pill was able to be screwed in about 2-3 threads further into the light than the flat of the pill’s deck, I guess you would call it, so I backed my pill out so the LED was now sitting back up into the reflector and a few up and down adjustments as I had understood Dale’s explanation and bling absolutely perfect beam profile,
Thanks to Dale’s explanation I think I fixed my light, without his explanation, well I would probably still have a screwy looking beam, Thanks Dale… And KB looking at your results also confirms a lot to me so thank you for sharing that explanation also.

By the way you can see in my pill picture how it’s sitting in deep inside the pocket, that was my major cause for problems, I think… or so I believe anyhow, wrong? Probably, but it worked for me, but I’m ready to know if I am right or wrong in practice and or theory frankly, Dales schooling on focusing I believe helped me a lot, enough for me to see that the LED was way to far away from the reflector and I would not have noticed the pill if Dale hadn’t taken the time to explain the fundamentals.

Sweet T18! Nice job! :slight_smile:

WOW, Dale buddy Thank You, I take that as a A grade, ha ha ha, Your comment means lots to me, and your schooling was very effective, I am really happy to have your thumbs up, Thanks Again Dale…!! :laughing:


X1 XHP35 HI D4 1A, boostdriver, Keeppower 26650 protected, approximately 700m