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What are some "Hidden Gems"?

We’ve been spoiled by “budget” brands like Convoy and EagleEye, plus the “premium” brands that have become popular on BLF.

What are some lights that don’t get all the attention, but for some reason are very good?

Maybe you’ve discovered a hidden gem that nobody buys because it says “ultrafire” on the side.

Maybe there’s a light with a cheap finish but great mod host on the inside.

Maybe you found a light on an obscure website that nobody has ever heard of.

Post why you like it, and preferably pictures or a link to where we can get it.

My Favorite Modded Lights: X6R, S8 , X2R , M6, SP03

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PD68: Great Questions ! I hope this posting really heats up and gets

good answers/suggestions for finding some flashlight “Hidden Gems” !!!

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Ultrafire MT-12: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1649/10015804/4090400-ultrafire-mt-12-...

I ordered this when it was on sale awhile back and I have to say, I was impressed with the quality. Integrated shelf, good overall build and quality for the price and a real XM-L2 (be it a low bin and cool tint).

Now that I have some 22mm (or was it 20mm?) drivers I want to mod it and see what it does.

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Recently I’ve heard about the brand “Pop Lite” which appears to be the OEM for coast and LED lenser. They certainly fall under the “hidden” criteria of your post, but I can’t personally promise that they are gems.

BLF users Fritz t. Cat and Chicken Drumstick have written a few reviews and modded some of these lights.

I’ve just ordered the full stainless P22 from an aliexpress vendor: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/POP-lite-P22-Cree-Q4-WC-Convex-Lens-LED-Flashlight-mini-Stainless-Steel-Torch-Zoomable-Lantern/32683155000.html

This is basically a full stainless LED lenser P5 with an XR-E emitter.

I’ve seen a few reviews of the anodized aluminum version of this light, the pop-lite T22. Reviews seem to be favorable. I’m hoping that the stainless version will be a step up. The light engine in this host is certainly outdated by today’s standard, I’m counting on using this as host only.

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Zeno EO3. Great little AA light that takes both Li-Ion and Eneloops.

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Texas_Ace wrote:
Ultrafire MT-12: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1649/10015804/4090400-ultrafire-mt-12-...

I ordered this when it was on sale awhile back and I have to say, I was impressed with the quality. Integrated shelf, good overall build and quality for the price and a real XM-L2 (be it a low bin and cool tint).

Now that I have some 22mm (or was it 20mm?) drivers I want to mod it and see what it does.

This is a good light for its price, also known as F13, cheaper at gearbest:
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_5499.html
A few weeks ago on sale even cheaper.

22mm driver, I modded it with MT-G2, FET+1 and 2× 26350.

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Flashy Mike wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:
Ultrafire MT-12: https://www.fasttech.com/products/1649/10015804/4090400-ultrafire-mt-12-...

I ordered this when it was on sale awhile back and I have to say, I was impressed with the quality. Integrated shelf, good overall build and quality for the price and a real XM-L2 (be it a low bin and cool tint).

Now that I have some 22mm (or was it 20mm?) drivers I want to mod it and see what it does.

This is a good light for its price, also known as F13, cheaper at gearbest:
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_5499.html
A few weeks ago on sale even cheaper.

22mm driver, I modded it with MT-G2, FET+1 and 2× 26350.

And the Old-Lumens version
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/48926

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elnino wrote:
And the Old-Lumens version
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/48926
Yeah, I should have mentioned it. I hope I’ll get it soon.
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Flashy Mike wrote:
This is a good light for its price, also known as F13, cheaper at gearbest:
http://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_5499.html
A few weeks ago on sale even cheaper.

22mm driver, I modded it with MT-G2, FET+1 and 2× 26350.

Interesting, it looks slightly different in the F13, a bit sleeker? I might have to grab one of those.

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I really like the BLF/Trustfire A8. My first was a BLF and my second was a Trustfire from ebay.

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On The road

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I would agree with “On the Road” The M3 is pretty awesome. I have considered ordering one of the zoomies, have yet to find a zoomie I like.

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
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Not so much talk on here these days, but the Zuesray is still a good zoomy IMO. And still good vfm.

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mattlward wrote:
I would agree with “On the Road” The M3 is pretty awesome. I have considered ordering one of the zoomies, have yet to find a zoomie I like.

+1

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Sciencetists wrote:
Recently I’ve heard about the brand “Pop Lite” which appears to be the OEM for coast and LED lenser. They certainly fall under the “hidden” criteria of your post, but I can’t personally promise that they are gems.

BLF users Fritz t. Cat and Chicken Drumstick have written a few reviews and modded some of these lights.

I’ve just ordered the full stainless P22 from an aliexpress vendor: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/POP-lite-P22-Cree-Q4-WC-Convex-Lens-LED-Flashlight-mini-Stainless-Steel-Torch-Zoomable-Lantern/32683155000.html

This is basically a full stainless LED lenser P5 with an XR-E emitter.

I’ve seen a few reviews of the anodized aluminum version of this light, the pop-lite T22. Reviews seem to be favorable. I’m hoping that the stainless version will be a step up. The light engine in this host is certainly outdated by today’s standard, I’m counting on using this as host only.

For a 1 AA I like the Coast hx5. It’s the same price, or cheaper, as the Pop Lite but comes with a clip. I also like how the hx5 supports 14500. I don’t think the Led Lensers support li ion, looks like Pop Lite doesn’t either. The Coast hp1 was a steal for 10 bucks but now it’s 20 or more which sucks. Let us know how that Pop Lite is though. It’s nice knowing what emitter is supposed to be in it, unlike LL and Coast.
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but i wouldnt call on the road a hidden gem, it is a very popular brand now because of gearbest and group buys etc.. I would say it sells pretty good. I was a bit disappointed with my on the road M6 because only unprotected cells will fit and i had to buy one especially for that light. There was not a single word about that problem in the article description.

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Liber8 wrote:
Sciencetists wrote:
Recently I’ve heard about the brand “Pop Lite” which appears to be the OEM for coast and LED lenser. They certainly fall under the “hidden” criteria of your post, but I can’t personally promise that they are gems.

BLF users Fritz t. Cat and Chicken Drumstick have written a few reviews and modded some of these lights.

I’ve just ordered the full stainless P22 from an aliexpress vendor: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/POP-lite-P22-Cree-Q4-WC-Convex-Lens-LED-Flashlight-mini-Stainless-Steel-Torch-Zoomable-Lantern/32683155000.html

This is basically a full stainless LED lenser P5 with an XR-E emitter.

I’ve seen a few reviews of the anodized aluminum version of this light, the pop-lite T22. Reviews seem to be favorable. I’m hoping that the stainless version will be a step up. The light engine in this host is certainly outdated by today’s standard, I’m counting on using this as host only.

For a 1 AA I like the Coast hx5. It’s the same price, or cheaper, as the Pop Lite but comes with a clip. I also like how the hx5 supports 14500. I don’t think the Led Lensers support li ion, looks like Pop Lite doesn’t either. The Coast hp1 was a steal for 10 bucks but now it’s 20 or more which sucks. Let us know how that Pop Lite is though. It’s nice knowing what emitter is supposed to be in it, unlike LL and Coast.

To be fair, I’m only assuming that the emitter is an XR-E. The specs list it as a “Cree Q4-WC”. The T22 however claims to use an XR-E, so I’m just assuming they’re similar.

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Sciencetists wrote:
Liber8 wrote:
Sciencetists wrote:
Recently I’ve heard about the brand “Pop Lite” which appears to be the OEM for coast and LED lenser. They certainly fall under the “hidden” criteria of your post, but I can’t personally promise that they are gems.

BLF users Fritz t. Cat and Chicken Drumstick have written a few reviews and modded some of these lights.

I’ve just ordered the full stainless P22 from an aliexpress vendor: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/POP-lite-P22-Cree-Q4-WC-Convex-Lens-LED-Flashlight-mini-Stainless-Steel-Torch-Zoomable-Lantern/32683155000.html

This is basically a full stainless LED lenser P5 with an XR-E emitter.

I’ve seen a few reviews of the anodized aluminum version of this light, the pop-lite T22. Reviews seem to be favorable. I’m hoping that the stainless version will be a step up. The light engine in this host is certainly outdated by today’s standard, I’m counting on using this as host only.

For a 1 AA I like the Coast hx5. It’s the same price, or cheaper, as the Pop Lite but comes with a clip. I also like how the hx5 supports 14500. I don’t think the Led Lensers support li ion, looks like Pop Lite doesn’t either. The Coast hp1 was a steal for 10 bucks but now it’s 20 or more which sucks. Let us know how that Pop Lite is though. It’s nice knowing what emitter is supposed to be in it, unlike LL and Coast.

To be fair, I’m only assuming that the emitter is an XR-E. The specs list it as a “Cree Q4-WC”. The T22 however claims to use an XR-E, so I’m just assuming they’re similar.

Yeah that’s true. I am also wondering about the 320 lumens claim in that one you linked. If so, and the emitter is correct, that’s a good little light. My hx5 only claims 130 lumens off an AA. 345 with a li ion. Maybe you found a hidden gem indeed

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Liber8 wrote:
Sciencetists wrote:
Liber8 wrote:
Sciencetists wrote:
Recently I’ve heard about the brand “Pop Lite” which appears to be the OEM for coast and LED lenser. They certainly fall under the “hidden” criteria of your post, but I can’t personally promise that they are gems.

BLF users Fritz t. Cat and Chicken Drumstick have written a few reviews and modded some of these lights.

I’ve just ordered the full stainless P22 from an aliexpress vendor: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/POP-lite-P22-Cree-Q4-WC-Convex-Lens-LED-Flashlight-mini-Stainless-Steel-Torch-Zoomable-Lantern/32683155000.html

This is basically a full stainless LED lenser P5 with an XR-E emitter.

I’ve seen a few reviews of the anodized aluminum version of this light, the pop-lite T22. Reviews seem to be favorable. I’m hoping that the stainless version will be a step up. The light engine in this host is certainly outdated by today’s standard, I’m counting on using this as host only.

For a 1 AA I like the Coast hx5. It’s the same price, or cheaper, as the Pop Lite but comes with a clip. I also like how the hx5 supports 14500. I don’t think the Led Lensers support li ion, looks like Pop Lite doesn’t either. The Coast hp1 was a steal for 10 bucks but now it’s 20 or more which sucks. Let us know how that Pop Lite is though. It’s nice knowing what emitter is supposed to be in it, unlike LL and Coast.

To be fair, I’m only assuming that the emitter is an XR-E. The specs list it as a “Cree Q4-WC”. The T22 however claims to use an XR-E, so I’m just assuming they’re similar.

Yeah that’s true. I am also wondering about the 320 lumens claim in that one you linked. If so, and the emitter is correct, that’s a good little light. My hx5 only claims 130 lumens off an AA. 345 with a li ion. Maybe you found a hidden gem indeed

Hmm, the T22 claims max 100lm: https://www.fasttech.com/product/1075603-pop-lite-t22-cree-xr-e-q5-100lm...

The P22 I linked earlier claims max 320lm and a max voltage of 4.5v. That suggest to me that perhaps the 320lm is based upon using a 14500.

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I am finding the Convoy L6 to be the best flashlight I have, and if I had to have only one flashlight this would be my choice. Smile

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More like a lost gem. I still like the old stainless steel C3 after some small mods. I have an unbranded (clean) version modded to one mode, nw xpg2 and changed the switchboot to a black one.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic:

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Geuzzz wrote:
More like a lost gem. I still like the old stainless steel C3 after some small mods. I have an unbranded (clean) version modded to one mode, nw xpg2 and changed the switchboot to a black one.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic:
!{width:40%}http://s3.postimg.org/43rnf798j/image1.jpg!

Is this light still available to purchase?

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Sciencetists wrote:
Geuzzz wrote:
More like a lost gem. I still like the old stainless steel C3 after some small mods. I have an unbranded (clean) version modded to one mode, nw xpg2 and changed the switchboot to a black one.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic:
!{width:40%}http://s3.postimg.org/43rnf798j/image1.jpg!

Is this light still available to purchase?

Just put “stainless steel flashlight” into the Aliexpress search engine and you’ll find a few that have that look.

Such as this one:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Q5-stainless-steel-mini-outdoor-14500-gl...

I have one from years ago – nice enough.

Best of luck.

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On the road i3
Zoomie with about the same size as the small 123A Olights and with similar beam in flood
But because of the zoom I can see much further with it

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Should still be available. I dont know where you can find the best version, maybe someone else knows. Quick google search gave me:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XXBKEH2/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=147...

https://m.fasttech.com/products/0/10003894/1278200-c3-1-led-248lm-3-mode...

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I bought an OTR i3 — paid for it, too!
And I agree it’s my current favorite.

But I’ll +1 for the ZeusRay — aluminum pill version — for $7 with free shipping.
A bit of a lottery there from time to time (but they sent me a better one when I told them and showed them pictures demonstrating I got a bad one — commendable quick response, no argument), but no bad reports lately. See the consolidated thread:
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I have an affinity for the small Tank007 e09 . It’s been around for a while. It’s not really a modder’s light, but it performs and is built well.

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Not that of a hidden gem maybe but still enjoying my Jaxman X1.

Really liking the looks of the light and it is a pretty good thrower with the XPL-HI and large reflector. Different tint options are a big plus IMO too.

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scrumpypaul wrote:
Sciencetists wrote:
Geuzzz wrote:
More like a lost gem. I still like the old stainless steel C3 after some small mods. I have an unbranded (clean) version modded to one mode, nw xpg2 and changed the switchboot to a black one.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic:
!{width:40%}http://s3.postimg.org/43rnf798j/image1.jpg!

Is this light still available to purchase?

Just put “stainless steel flashlight” into the Aliexpress search engine and you’ll find a few that have that look.

Such as this one:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Q5-stainless-steel-mini-outdoor-14500-gl...

I have one from years ago – nice enough.

Best of luck.

SP

Recently I have searched stainless flashlight on Ali looking for something to mod. I keep coming back to Yupard and Hedeli 18650 versions of that light. But I can not find pics or anything showing the head apart. I bought this Host from KD
KSH-S12024 Stainless Steel LED Flashlight Host 120mm x 24mm for Cree XM-L – Silver
And I am not happy with the design. Kinda sorta P60 like with a spring loaded pill pushing the stack into the lens bezel. I can actually push the lens down with my finger.

Is the Yupard designed with a threaded pill or at least a threaded retaining ring holding the stack into the bezel? I want one or 3 but won’t buy it if its made like the KD host.

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Geuzzz wrote:
More like a lost gem. I still like the old stainless steel C3 after some small mods. I have an unbranded (clean) version modded to one mode, nw xpg2 and changed the switchboot to a black one.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic:
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Agree, have some 7 or 8 years old, great classic.
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One of my favorite unsung lights is the Roche F6 , excellent built quality. Only thing I dislike is the button is easily pushed while carrying in the pocket, not a problem when using the clip.

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