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Anyone know where to get a lens? The tint on my L21A is funky and I am told it is likely the lens. So I would like to get a better lens.

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dragunbayne wrote:
Anyone know where to get a lens? The tint on my L21A is funky and I am told it is likely the lens. So I would like to get a better lens.

The anti reflective coating on the lens tends to have a very small effect on the tint, usually making it look a bit warmer. If you want it to be a bit cooler/white you can try removing the coating. I think there are glass polishing cloths that can do this.

Another option is to measure the diameter and thickness of the lens and look online at Aliexpress, Banggood, Gearbest, etc… for the correct size. Most generic lenses are not coated, but if it is it will say in the ad.

In quickly looking up info about the L21A I only see it available in 6500K cool white SST-40. Is this what you have? Going to a clear lens will make it more white. Is this what you want or do you want to go away from the white to a more cream color? To do this requires a new led.

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dragunbayne, try Chris at flashlightlens.com His UCLp lenses are ultra clear with 99.6% or better light transmission, any light I am serious about gets a lens from his shop. Wink

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Do you know why he isnt doing much UCL glass anymore?

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I know there has always been a limited selection on the UCL, never worried too much about going with the UCLp…. must have 30 or more.

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dragunbayne wrote:
Anyone know where to get a lens? The tint on my L21A is funky and I am told it is likely the lens. So I would like to get a better lens.

The anti reflective coating on the lens tends to have a very small effect on the tint, usually making it look a bit warmer. If you want it to be a bit cooler/white you can try removing the coating. I think there are glass polishing cloths that can do this.

Another option is to measure the diameter and thickness of the lens and look online at Aliexpress, Banggood, Gearbest, etc… for the correct size. Most generic lenses are not coated, but if it is it will say in the ad.

In quickly looking up info about the L21A I only see it available in 6500K cool white SST-40. Is this what you have? Going to a clear lens will make it more white. Is this what you want or do you want to go away from the white to a more cream color? To do this requires a new led.

Actually the issue is that there is some green. I don’t have the light with me right now, but if I remember right it is a green ring around the hotspot.

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Well, that is not caused by the lens, but by the emitter.

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OK, so I mis-remembered. I think my whole issue is just color. Unfortunately there is no more neutral LED available right now I don’t think. I’ve seen some manufacturers get better tints, but none I can buy. My D80 V2 is an SST40 but has superior color. I think I have seen Convoy has some 5700K SST40s. If anyone has found them available let me know.

On another note though can anyone recommend a good reverse clicky switch for this?

EDIT: Meant Astrolux I think, not Convoy for having the 5700K SST40.

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dragunbayne wrote:
OK, so I mis-remembered. I think my whole issue is just color. Unfortunately there is no more neutral LED available right now I don’t think. I’ve seen some manufacturers get better tints, but none I can buy. My D80 V2 is an SST40 but has superior color. I think I have seen Convoy has some 5700K SST40s. If anyone has found them available let me know.

On another note though can anyone recommend a good reverse clicky switch for this?

EDIT: Meant Astrolux I think, not Convoy for having the 5700K SST40.

IDK if he sells bare emitters or on boards but Convoy has SST-40 5000K. I have a new M21B with one and the tint/temp is pretty good. Like a XP-L HD with twice the power: a little bit green and some tint shit but more than good enough for a thrower and much nicer than the angry blue 6500K.

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dragunbayne wrote:
OK, so I mis-remembered. I think my whole issue is just color. Unfortunately there is no more neutral LED available right now I don’t think. I’ve seen some manufacturers get better tints, but none I can buy. My D80 V2 is an SST40 but has superior color. I think I have seen Convoy has some 5700K SST40s. If anyone has found them available let me know.

On another note though can anyone recommend a good reverse clicky switch for this?

EDIT: Meant Astrolux I think, not Convoy for having the 5700K SST40.

Simon sells the 5000K HERE
(Did you even look on his AliExpress page ?)

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Yokiamy wrote:
dragunbayne wrote:
OK, so I mis-remembered. I think my whole issue is just color. Unfortunately there is no more neutral LED available right now I don’t think. I’ve seen some manufacturers get better tints, but none I can buy. My D80 V2 is an SST40 but has superior color. I think I have seen Convoy has some 5700K SST40s. If anyone has found them available let me know.

On another note though can anyone recommend a good reverse clicky switch for this?

EDIT: Meant Astrolux I think, not Convoy for having the 5700K SST40.

Simon sells the 5000K HERE
(Did you even look on his AliExpress page ?)

I did not! I’m really new to Aliexpress and didn’t think to look. Thank you. LOL

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Anyone know if the first original batch of BSM springs, the larger ones,  would be enough to sustain turbo on the L6 until step down without using a bypass or second spring?  I wasn't sure how to solder the smaller and larger spring together on the tail switch, so I just soldered the larger one.  So far no problems, but just wanting to make sure it can handle the max current all the time?

 

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Max current on a stock L6 is only 5 or 6 amps. Nothing to worry about.

PS, there is no stepdown.

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Thanks for the help!  Forgot, it just goes into LVP instead of a step down, but I've never ran it long enough to see how LVP works on it

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Just bypass it with a 20ga Turnigy lead and you won’t have to worry about it. Wink

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Just ordered some 20ga Turnigy lead for future projects thanks 

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Since there is nothing else to do right now, I’ve been working on my L6 plans again. I had the idea to turn down the stock reflector and use it with the BridgeLux Vero29… This required some repackaging of the components and careful design but I think I can make it work. Math and data sheets suggest that this should be around 7500lm at about 35w. Limiting factors being the fact I’m boosting from ~12v to ~40v and the thermals of the L6 head.

However, I was thinking it would probably be much easier to turn the light into a triple or quad XHP70.2 light if I can find an appropriate optic. Previously, I had considered using a stupid quantity of LH351s but that would have required custom MCPCBs where with a big led like the XHP70.2, I could probably just use standard stars.

So far, I haven’t been able to find a simple round optic for a big LED.

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Has anyone got a spare L6 XHP 70(.2) centering ring?

I ordered an L6 reflector from fasttech and just read in another thread that fasttech doesn’t give you a centering ring. I couldn’t find them on Simon’s store and Kaidomain has them in bundles of 5 which I really don’t think I’ll need. I also can’t seem to find the diameter of the hole.

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Has anyone got a spare L6 XHP 70(.2) centering ring?

I ordered an L6 reflector from fasttech and just read in another thread that fasttech doesn’t give you a centering ring. I couldn’t find them on Simon’s store and Kaidomain has them in bundles of 5 which I really don’t think I’ll need. I also can’t seem to find the diameter of the hole.


Simon will give you some extra for the cost of shipping or can add them to an order.

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I tried asking him about it but he didn’t reply. I just ordered a driver and sent him a message. I hope he gets it. Thanks.

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I tried asking him about it but he didn’t reply. I just ordered a driver and sent him a message. I hope he gets it. Thanks.

Like most contacts in China, you rarely get a quick reply. With the virus it might take even longer. You just have to be patient.

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What is the use of FX30 30mm driver for L6,  does the driver already boosted...

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What is the use of FX30 30mm driver for L6,  does the driver already boosted…


Do you mean why use the Kiadomain FX30 instead on the Convoy FX30 driver? It’s mostly about the different user interface.

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1stein wrote:
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Note: Hi mode will automatically drop to Med mode to prevent overheat for continues use for 3 secs . Half press to back to Hi mode. Do you confirm this?

No. U can’t make a half-press with e-switch. The mechanical one on the tail just turns on/off. Hi mode is temp. Regulated.

Does this driver have a stepdown? Or does it maintain maximum brightness as the battery voltage decreases, like the FX-30 from Simon?

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Boombox wrote:
1stein wrote:
zeremefico wrote:
Note: Hi mode will automatically drop to Med mode to prevent overheat for continues use for 3 secs . Half press to back to Hi mode. Do you confirm this?

No. U can’t make a half-press with e-switch. The mechanical one on the tail just turns on/off. Hi mode is temp. Regulated.

Does this driver have a stepdown? Or does it maintain maximum brightness as the battery voltage decreases, like the FX-30 from Simon?

It’s not a step-down to lower mode, it regulates the current according to the temperature. It means the brightness is adjusted smoothly, not gradually. Honestly – it’s hard to notice when the temperature protection breaks in.

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1stein wrote:
Yet another L6 mod. Just to experiment and have fun.

Took L6 host from Simon, XHP70.2 and driver from KD.

Soldered R100 onto two R082 already existing there:

Sliced and diced the XHP70.2:

Added extenstion that I had left from L2:

And I was ready to enjoy the result:

Although still floody, seems to throw not that bad for a XHP70. The host gets hot after 3-4 minutes in high but it’s understandable. Heavy, I could use it as a mace.
Well, it was fun to build. Fun to play with it outdoor. But definitely not my size, having it in my jacket’s pocket I start slouching.

Please tell me, do you use 3× 26650 batteries in an assembly with an extender?

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