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Big congratulation to all the designers, amazing work guys !!

I voted for design no1 because I think it has something very “special”, proportions are so beautifully balanced …
And it doesn’t remind me of any other flashlights.
I also agree that a few tweaks could be made, especially around the fin area.

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keithd wrote:
The 1970s called, they want #1 and #3 back… Silly

Seriously, if either of those very plain designs win, please withdraw my intent to buy.

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I’m also thinking of withdrawing my order if one of those win. For me, number 2 is the only design that is badass enough to be a million candela light.

+1 or really I mean -1
I’ll pull out as well if either of them win

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Enderman wrote:
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Ummm no – I was told unequivocally that the fins won’t be changed. And maybe I used “useless” a bit loosely, but in my opinion if they are going to be there they may as well straddle the hottest area, rather than flail underneath Tired


Where? I don’t see any posts from you in the recent two pages?
Is this from farther back?

Further back. Conversation regarding fins starts at post #2004.
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1049281#comment-1049281

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design one looks good but needs more grip

Voted for 1, but indeed needs some knurling on the handle to make it perfect.

I don’t think it needs more knurling, it’s got a baseball bat nub on the end. If Yoenis can hang on to this bat without letting it fly into the seats, we could certainly hang onto a friggin flashlight Big Smile

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Love design 2, but can’t vote, guessing the poll is finished?

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Moin Moin
Design 1 Rocks!!!!
Thanks to everyone for their invested work.

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Hi,

JockRobbins wrote:
MortyDuck wrote:
But those fins on number 1 is way of in my thougts….

They are all too low. I have brought this up in the GT thread, and I was told that, even though they are technically useless, they won’t be moved or added to. I can’t live with a ‘technically incorrect’ light so I had to vote against it.
The design looks purposeful, but I was a fan of 5ar’s from day one.

To be honest, I didn’t have an intention of changing it, but throughout the last few days several people commented on those fins. Consequently it would be fair to change it or at least give it a try. I just didn’t want to do it before the poll since it took me a bit to get a harmonious design there. I also don’t think it would change the overall design the much so you still get a good impression of what the light would be like. But they certainly are not useless Smile

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One or three look good to me. Two and four look a little too unbalanced (big and/or heavy head).

The weight between them is all very close, IIRC 2 was actually a bit lighter with the last weights I saw.


Are you talking about the head or over all host Weight?

The overall weight at Design 1 is a little higher, however, the head is a little lighter (judging from the cross sectional views).

lightx wrote:
I like #1, but I don’t think I like the red color rounding the button. Maybe different color or just same color with the button would make it look better?

Again, the details aren’t really figured out yet. The red should just symbolise an illuminated switch. But if people don’t want it, then it’ll just be stainless steel. It for sure won’t be red plastic Wink

AlexGT wrote:
For how much time will the voting going to be open? Design 1 and 2 are neck to neck…!!!

True! It’s very exciting. Do you actually want to host another poll with only those two options if it’s that close? Either way, both designs deserve a individual project, so maybe we can use the design which doesn’t win here and create another light with it (triple or single XHP70 for example) in half a year or so (We also don’t want to draw buyers away from this project).

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Glad you’re accepting of a little change Smile
Maybe instead of completely rendering a new fin design just do a few sketches on paper on digitally of a 2D outline, then pick the best looking one.
I think a 2d outline would be enough to get an idea of what it will look like when rotated around in a circle, and it would take much less effort to draw.

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Design 2 is my favourite.

It looks really precious and a good gripp.

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Enderman wrote:
Glad you’re accepting of a little change Smile Maybe instead of completely rendering a new fin design just do a few sketches on paper on digitally of a 2D outline, then pick the best looking one. I think a 2d outline would be enough to get an idea of what it will look like when rotated around in a circle, and it would take much less effort to draw.

Well after all it’s a community project right? Smile
To be honest I am faster with my CAD program by now than by drawing a proper sketch by hand. And the rendering is quite easy, once you set up the cameras you just have to update the parts.

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Number 2 is the only thing that looks expensive at all. We really should be trying to out-do Acebeam, not trying to be out-designed by knock-off companies. I mean, why can’t we have something that looks as good as it performs? Plus I love stainless crenelated bezels.

FWIW – this is just my opinion, hope I don’t get anyone too riled up.

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keithd wrote:
Number 2 is the only thing that looks expensive at all.
No.
It is the best looking render though (i.m.o.)
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I don’t really care for any of themas they are but the tube #2 with the head from #3 would be my preference.

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keithd wrote:
Number 2 is the only thing that looks expensive at all. We really should be trying to out-do Acebeam, not trying to be out-designed by knock-off companies. I mean, why can’t we have something that looks as good as it performs? Plus I love stainless crenelated bezels.

FWIW – this is just my opinion, hope I don’t get anyone too riled up.

I assume this design also looks cheap to you? Wink

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fritz15 wrote:
keithd wrote:
Number 2 is the only thing that looks expensive at all. We really should be trying to out-do Acebeam, not trying to be out-designed by knock-off companies. I mean, why can’t we have something that looks as good as it performs? Plus I love stainless crenelated bezels.

FWIW – this is just my opinion, hope I don’t get anyone too riled up.

I assume this design also looks cheap to you? Wink

!{width:50%}http://www.superfonarik.ru/images/product_images/popup_images/polarion_p...!


You (i.m.o.) should do the fins like that too, swap it with the big ring (if you know what i mean).
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Jerommel wrote:
fritz15 wrote:
keithd wrote:
Number 2 is the only thing that looks expensive at all. We really should be trying to out-do Acebeam, not trying to be out-designed by knock-off companies. I mean, why can’t we have something that looks as good as it performs? Plus I love stainless crenelated bezels.

FWIW – this is just my opinion, hope I don’t get anyone too riled up.

I assume this design also looks cheap to you? Wink

!{width:50%}http://www.superfonarik.ru/images/product_images/popup_images/polarion_p...!


You (i.m.o.) should do the fins like that too, swap it with the big ring (if you know what i mean).

Yeah we already discussed it here briefly. I will certainly create a design like that (if we use Design 1 for a light).

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fritz15 wrote:
keithd wrote:
Number 2 is the only thing that looks expensive at all. We really should be trying to out-do Acebeam, not trying to be out-designed by knock-off companies. I mean, why can’t we have something that looks as good as it performs? Plus I love stainless crenelated bezels.

FWIW – this is just my opinion, hope I don’t get anyone too riled up.

I assume this design also looks cheap to you? Wink


To me, it does, even though it’s probably crazy-expensive.

THIS is better looking to me.

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keithd wrote:
[…]
To me, it does, even though it’s probably crazy-expensive.

[…]

Nah it’s not that bad Big Smile
http://shop.polarion-store.com/PH40-703510590756.htm

But of course fair enough, everyone has a different taste Smile

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fritz15 wrote:
keithd wrote:
[…]
To me, it does, even though it’s probably crazy-expensive.

[…]

Nah it’s not that bad Big Smile
http://shop.polarion-store.com/PH40-703510590756.htm

But of course fair enough, everyone has a different taste Smile

HOLY SMOKES! I figured a high-end light like that would be expensive, but WOW! That makes Vinh’s RC40vn look like a bargain!

And yeah, you’re right about different tastes. I love how Acebeam’s lights look, but I hate the pricing. Some folks here probably hate both the look and price. Wink

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Yeap, the Polarion platform looks very dated. Dare I say reasonably unsophisticated looking too.

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There is no point in arguing over taste
Wink

Dang this is close

Some things to consider
Lighted switch not specified or planned
We have no idea if it is gonna have a ss bezel (personally I would like a cheap ALU one and a rubber thingy to protect it (you know like the soft rubber caps on monoculars but only the rim))

Also design 4 is an adaptation of 2 in the start so 2 and 4 are brother and sister

Interesting for me is that we had just 3 designs (4,3&2) and they were growing towards each other.
Design 2 got adapted based on a lot of input and designs people showed (the famous version 0,45 for example)
I really was surprised about new entry 1 and how different it was, when a poll was first discussed I thought there was no poll needed to tell you the truth Smile
Then design 1 came and here we are.

I would really like to see the thermal analysis of 2 because we have it of 1 and 3 and they preform nice.
For future modding sake we actually need 5ar to send the file to either Fritz of Thijsco so we can see how 2 does.
(You know a quad follow up is kind of a dream here and people will want to put a XHP70 in it so a decent thermal pic of the top 3 should be taken into consideration. This goes beyond taste into the objective measurement and could affect voting.

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The thermal behaviour will be fine when it’s thick aluminium.

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In terms of appearance,design 3# win my heart. Big Smile

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Thorfire wrote:
In terms of appearance,design 3# win my heart. Big Smile

Thank you. Smile
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Since everyone else is saying what they voted for and why, I guess I’ll do the same. Wink

I really like designs #1 and #3 for the conical head. To me, that looks better than the bulging head of the other designs. I came here with the intention of choosing #1 because in lots of ways, it really is the best looking light to me. But, thinking about actually owning the light, holding it in my hand, and using it, #1 feels too clunky. So, I voted for #3 this time. I think, if design #2 had a conical head with the anti-roll blocks (instead of cuts) like design #3, that would be a better look for me. But, really, if #1 was just a tad bit less clunky looking, it would still be my favorite.

Another thing I want to mention: I think if there might be a BLF Quad in the near future from one of these designs, I’d rather it have the head shape of design #2. Even though I prefer the conical head for a single emitter, I think the bulging head looks better for a quad. So, maybe we should go with #1 or #3 for the GT1, and #2 for the GT4 later. Party

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lionheart_2281 wrote:
Love design 2, but can’t vote, guessing the poll is finished?

hmm poll is open, should work

this is not looking good way too divided.
I am PMming all the designers to see if we can work something out.

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The Miller wrote:
lionheart_2281 wrote:
Love design 2, but can’t vote, guessing the poll is finished?

hmm poll is open, should work

this is not looking good way too divided.
I am PMming all the designers to see if we can work something out.


The poll has only been “live” less than a day. Give it time… Wink

While you’re waiting, check out my idea in the post above yours. Innocent

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DavidEF wrote:
The Miller wrote:
lionheart_2281 wrote:
Love design 2, but can’t vote, guessing the poll is finished?

hmm poll is open, should work

this is not looking good way too divided.
I am PMming all the designers to see if we can work something out.


The poll has only been “live” less than a day. Give it time… Wink

While you’re waiting, check out my idea in the post above yours. Innocent

I like your idea Smile

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I encourage anyone to try to envision N°2 design (wich i agree looks good) in actual use, in a glove box or laying down on a car roof, imagine this massive light resting on those two very localized points (the head elbow and the tail anti-roll/cigar grip) if horizontal, and that crenelated bezel if vertical , it will ruin the ano on the light and the surface you lay the light on if you are not extremely slow/cautious, this light will be completly beat up around head elbow and cigar grip after a day of real use, and it wil chew any surface soft enough with it’s crenelated bezel, now imagine design N°1 with rubber around the tailcap and bezel in any position, that’s a well tought out and utilitarian design, perhaps lacking a bit of knurling to improve grip.

It seems really depends if one wants a shelf queen and favors looks over function, or if one wants to actually use the light.

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The rubberized bezel and tail is actually a really good idea that I liked from the start, I was sad I didn’t think of them actually lol.

It is something that could be added to design 2 easily enough as well (or any of the others).

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