TK35 Clone $ 38,00 at cnqualitygoods

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BTW, the hidden SOS/Strobe modes, you need to double click on the mode button.  And the Strobe is also Fenix style, ie alternating 10Hz and 20Hz. Same as my TK70.

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Here in padang is hotter... Smile 54lux... Is it the same as ultrafire C8? I am very tempting with this clone, but my concern now is only the output..

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Here in padang is hotter... Smile 54lux... Is it the same as ultrafire C8? I am very tempting with this clone, but my concern now is only the output..

My wife's with me in SG, but her hometown is on Pulau Tebbingtingi in Riau (3hrs speedboat from Pekanbaru and 4hrs from Batam or 2.5hrs from Tg Balai Karimun). I also try to visit Batam whenever possible. Yeah i guess coz SG is surrounded by sea and also quite a fair bit of greenery here giving cover. But from what i see on weather underground we are about the same in temp.  We are close enough to be affected by the same weather system, these few days rain like crazy/heavily right?

My U80 is about 65 lux. I guess C8 is approx the same. Seriously i don't see no diff between the TK35 clone and UF-980L unless you side-by-side compare at a 20m distant object.  In the room, your pupils close up if you stare at the hotspot, that 20% is not appreciable. You can register a bit of difference when tailstanding, coz the levels are lower. You the something like the DRY/TK70 or something that is > 2X in lux (eg FF STL-V2) to bulldoze through and make your brain register holy !@#%!@# yep that's bright alright.

BTW, the Shadow TC6 4C neutral white (I have the 2.5A version) gets me 57 lux reflected.

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Here for less than 30$  http://www.powerwholesale.net/fenix-tk35-t6-flashlight-p-1584.html 

Poor thing I do not like multicell lights

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Here for less than 30$  http://www.powerwholesale.net/fenix-tk35-t6-flashlight-p-1584.html 

Poor thing I do not like multicell lights

And yep, they are selling the real TK35 for 86 bucks.   Smile 

Shipping will cost dearly. Let see...i have sent over an order for HK Post.

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My wife's with me in SG, but her hometown is on Pulau Tebbingtingi in Riau (3hrs speedboat from Pekanbaru and 4hrs from Batam or 2.5hrs from Tg Balai Karimun). I also try to visit Batam whenever possible. Yeah i guess coz SG is surrounded by sea and also quite a fair bit of greenery here giving cover. But from what i see on weather underground we are about the same in temp.  We are close enough to be affected by the same weather system, these few days rain like crazy/heavily right?

My U80 is about 65 lux. I guess C8 is approx the same. Seriously i don't see no diff between the TK35 clone and UF-980L unless you side-by-side compare at a 20m distant object.  In the room, your pupils close up if you stare at the hotspot, that 20% is not appreciable. You can register a bit of difference when tailstanding, coz the levels are lower. You the something like the DRY/TK70 or something that is > 2X in lux (eg FF STL-V2) to bulldoze through and make your brain register holy !@#%!@# yep that's bright alright.

BTW, the Shadow TC6 4C neutral white (I have the 2.5A version) gets me 57 lux reflected.

 

yeah.. it rains everyday here in Padang. My city is about 7 hours driving from pekanbaru, it is a coastal city.

54-55lux..540lumens.. hmm.. seriously, i dont know what to decide.. should i just get this clone clown or not.. my interest on this clone is because the design similarity with fenix. what hesitate me is only it's output.. arrrgghhhh...

 

My Lumintop TD15x+extender for 2*18650 and sunwayman v20c will arrive tomorrow, i might give a short review soon.

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joerch wrote:

Here for less than 30$  http://www.powerwholesale.net/fenix-tk35-t6-flashlight-p-1584.html 

Poor thing I do not like multicell lights

And yep, they are selling the real TK35 for 86 bucks.   Smile 

Shipping will cost dearly. Let see...i have sent over an order for HK Post.

Powerwholesale is actually Bestinone and is also sz-eyoung on alibaba - some of their prices are pretty good.  I got quoted about 11.7 bucks for HK Post, it might not be registered as i remember paying 2 bucks for that in BIO when i purchased the Generic IMRs.  But all in all, 40.70 shipped there.  I am not sure if USA would be higher.

The holster from CNQG probably goes for what...$6 shipped.

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2100 wrote:

2100 wrote:

joerch wrote:

Here for less than 30$  http://www.powerwholesale.net/fenix-tk35-t6-flashlight-p-1584.html 

Poor thing I do not like multicell lights

And yep, they are selling the real TK35 for 86 bucks.   Smile 

Shipping will cost dearly. Let see...i have sent over an order for HK Post.

Powerwholesale is actually Bestinone and is also sz-eyoung on alibaba - some of their prices are pretty good.  I got quoted about 11.7 bucks for HK Post, it might not be registered as i remember paying 2 bucks for that in BIO when i purchased the Generic IMRs.  But all in all, 40.70 shipped there.  I am not sure if USA would be higher.

The holster from CNQG probably goes for what...$6 shipped.

Shipping is pretty expensive, they charge aprox $20 for HK post..too much IMO

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2100 wrote:

joerch wrote:

Here for less than 30$  http://www.powerwholesale.net/fenix-tk35-t6-flashlight-p-1584.html 

Poor thing I do not like multicell lights

And yep, they are selling the real TK35 for 86 bucks.   Smile 

Shipping will cost dearly. Let see...i have sent over an order for HK Post.

Powerwholesale is actually Bestinone and is also sz-eyoung on alibaba - some of their prices are pretty good.  I got quoted about 11.7 bucks for HK Post, it might not be registered as i remember paying 2 bucks for that in BIO when i purchased the Generic IMRs.  But all in all, 40.70 shipped there.  I am not sure if USA would be higher.

The holster from CNQG probably goes for what...$6 shipped.

Shipping is pretty expensive, they charge aprox $20 for HK post..too much IMO

 

yup... turns what i thought was a good deal, into a disappointment

back on the search, different torch im looking for though

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Shipping is pretty expensive, they charge aprox $20 for HK post..too much IMO

To USA?  For here it's 11.70. 

CNQG would be somewhat "flat".  So is KD.

But actually for such a high order, i feel safer with registered shipping.

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2100]</p><p>[quote=gen1.3_ wrote:
Shipping is pretty expensive, they charge aprox $20 for HK post..too much IMO

To USA?  For here it's 11.70. 

CNQG would be somewhat "flat".  So is KD.

Yeah to US. Ric shipped my order today, let the waiting begin. Never ordered from CNQG , hope it comes fast.

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I wonder if the Ultrafire holster from CNQG fits the DRY.

Yes, the Ultrafire holster from this one fits the DRY! 

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bah no memory is a deal killer for me...

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pounder

IMO not a issue if the torch starts from lowest mode.

Thorfire TS07, DQG AA, Brass Beauty, Astrolux S41

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Well if the torch is under driven then that should improve the runtimes on high....right...?

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IMO not a issue if the torch starts from lowest mode.

it is an issue for me for that reason..if it started in high..like my skyray g6 it would be ok..

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Well if the torch is under driven then that should improve the runtimes on high....right...?

Yeah...correct.

It is not underdriven, btw.   The output from the front-end is just like 20% from a UF-980L, and the UF-980L/U80 and most probably C8 from KD etc would just be 10% higher after 2-3 minutes.   It is also brighter than the Ultrafire P60 XM-L drop-in after 30 seconds from turn on.  

It's not gunned to the max, that's for sure though....  A lot of lights like the Ultrafire P60 XM-L are gunned to the max, but simply do not have either and or (1) good thermal path from LED emitter/MCPCB to the pill (2) to the host (3) too small a host surface area - just do not well after 30secs / 1 min.

Even a DRY in Turbo mode fares better....  hard to believe but true.  (DRY turbo drops 7% after 3 mins).  Do you know that an unwrapped P60 XM-L in direct drive and probably below average emitter to pill interface can drop as much as nearly 50% in output?   Solarforce hosts are very sexy though.     I have the Ultrafire P60 XM-L wrapped in foil, and the Dereelight P60 XM-L (no outer spring - pretty good contact to the host w/o foil wrapping) and CL1H V4 absolutely trounces it in output and that's with the Dereelight in Neutral white 3C....  Big Smile

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2100 wrote:

Zenbaas wrote:

Well if the torch is under driven then that should improve the runtimes on high....right...?

Yeah...correct.

It is not underdriven, btw.

Oh ok. So why the "lower" output then...?

NVM...saw your ninja edit Wink

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Kaidomain appears to have the same thing at $42.47, if anyone has issues with shipping prices at CNQG

http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020017

(as usual for KD, there's not exactly a lot of information, just pictures)

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the kd one works out about $6 usd cheaper to australia for me

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KD version doesn't include holster.

As I understood, CNQG includes it?

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Fill wrote:

KD version doesn't include holster.

As I understood, CNQG includes it?

Yep, it's an Ultrafire holster. It also fits the DRY triple XM-L perfectly, so pretty cool for me.   Smile

The holster also fits the Kingpower big head, Ultrafire U80, UF-980L and also TF-3T6, Sky Ray 3800 triple XM-L shorty mode (it's a tight squeeze). With the tail sticking out it can also carry the Solarforce MPP-1.   So now all these lights are able to EDC if you wish.  Smile

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6$ for a holster... well, ok ))

How much mA on max?

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Can't measure the current on max. Check out my pictures.

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Could you post a picture of the holster? Maybe some of the users have the lights you named in your post and want a nice holster.

Light up the darkness.

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Something like this, but the body of the holster is bigger and is of a somewhat semi-hard nylon material.   The length is 8 inches and width and height are 3 inches, so it's not a small holster like those $3 stuff found on DX.

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I happneed to see the TK35 clone while I was ordering a DRY X3, and I decided to see how the clone stood up to the real thing, so I also ordered one.

Well here is the spoiler, it doesn't come close to the real TK35. That said, if I didn't have the real TK35 to compare to, I would have been impressed with the light. So most people probably would like it.

Don't read on if you want to save 50 dollars over a real TK35 for a flashlight that is ~60% as good as the Fenix. For the money is still a great deal. Ignorance is bliss, and in this case it saves real dollars to be a little ignorant.

Many of its shortcomings have already been mentioned, but I will list them anyway.

1. It is not as bright. I would say about 35% dimmer than the TK35 on turbo mode. It is a pretty substantial difference. The other modes aren't as bright either, except the lowest seems about equal. I was shocked how much dimmer. I checked over and over with many different batteries, and brands of batteries. I believe the 820 ANSI lumens that Fenix claims for the TK35. It has proven itself in test after test. The clone claims 850 lumens, but it is not even close. 

2. The PWM is very strong and you can hear it plainly, as well. Very obvious in every mode except turbo. This will probably result in much shorter runtimes compared to the TK35 which is excellent in that regard (which has the more efficient constant drive in every mode). Although running dimmer might compensate. I will try to compare battery life later, but that might be hard when the TK35 can run for 170 hours on low. I actually did time the TK35 on high and got 6 hours and 20 min with AW 2900 batts.

3. The buttons feel squishy and cheap. There is some play between the rubber caps and the actual buttons, which makes them feel cheap, and also makes them harder to engage, unlike the TK35 buttons that feel solid, with very good engagement. Operations are very annoying on the clone, actually.  

3.5. The on off switch on the real TK35 sticks out past the endcap, so you can't tail stand, but the clone can tail stand, no problem. 

4. There is no memory. When you turn it on it always starts in low mode, but there is a really annoying bright flash as you push the on/off button before it settles into low. The flash seems to be brighter than turbo mode.

5. Sometimes the flashlight refuses to change modes. A sharp tap on the base with my hand seems to fix it for a while, but that worries me that eventually the flashlight will be stuck in low mode. I might have a defective model in this regard.

6. The hotspot is misshapen, larger in size, has a donut hole, and not as warm in color as my TK35 (which I also just bought about 2 weeks ago, and has a pretty much perfect hotspot). Dirt inside the mirror area on the clone, as well. 

7. Very very minor differences in the machining of the metal parts, like slightly larger bevels etc. but most people would never notice. Internal metal parts are cheaper metals than the TK35, and won't last as long. For example the contacts are thickly reinforced where the head contacts the circuit board on the TK35 battery carrier. On the clone the head directly contacts the bare tracings on the circuit board which appear very thin and fragile, and prone to wear. 

8. No lube at all on the O-ring which was already pretty chewed up. 

9. No lanyard, no extra O-ring.

10. Awesome carry pouch for the clone that fits my new DRY perfectly, which is nice and better than the Fenix version.

11. Almost forgot, no limit to the time you can be in turbo mode for the clone. The TK35 limits you to 25 minutes, kicking you down to high, however you can override by turning it off then on again. The clone also definitely runs cooler and less bright, so that is probably why no limit.

Overall there is no doubt that the Fenix is the better flashlight in almost every way, despite the body being so closely machined. It feels higher quality, and the components used are obviously higher quality.  

Worth the extra 50 dollars the TK35 costs over this clone? For me yes! My TK35 is one of my all time favorite flashlights.

But this is the budget light forum, right? And for this substantial savings over the real deal, it is still a very good flashlight for the money! I don't regret my purchase, I can live with its shortcomings for the price I paid for it. And for those who have never used a TK35, ignorance is bliss. Save yourself some money! Unless you are a perfectionist, in that case, it is impossible to beat the real deal.

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thanks for your honesty

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Hehe...i want a T6 3C netural white TK35.

Can only bear to touch/mod the cheaper clone. 

Actually the warmer colour temp in the TK35 is the yellowish green colour.  Sometimes it could be pretty greenish, sometimes it could be ok.  I have this in my other branded lights in varying degrees like RRT-2 XM-L, Balder BD-4, Sunwayman T40CS, Fenix TK70. All these $$ lights seem to like this tint, which is great for high output but not so good for low output.    The TK35 clone is great, not bluish like the STL-V2/DRY in high (1A tint) but in low it's not yellowish+greenish, which looks to me very pale. 

 

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