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the deals that M4D M4X and Freeme post are the same as the ones the big vendors post. Im happy for Martin to get a commission, as he has been helpful to me personally.

its the Vendors that are promoting multiple reviews and affiliate posters. They all go into the Commercial Sellers Forum, we do not have to read them.

Its the front page of BLF that puts them all on the first page due to constant updates.

The solution is to not have posts from the Commercial Sellers forum on the front page. Or to use the subforum links directly, and not use the BLF home page, as it is full of Spam from Vendors and their affiliates

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How bout an affiliate linker being required to be a contributing member for at least 6 months to a year, with a 200 post count, before they come spam the forum? Content over Spam

Well, as I mentioned earlier, we COULD implement a lot of bulletproof rules, but that creates a more draconian and less enjoyable environment, and a lot more administrative load when it comes to enforcing those rules.

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Or page 3,4,5,6,7,8,9….
Give it a couple of years Wink
Personally I detest advertising.
If I want something then I will look for it, I don’t like people trying to make money from me everywhere I look.
Don’t get me wrong, some guys here do a great job getting us deals and I don’t mind them being rewarded for it but I would like the sales stuff to be in a place I have to willingly access.
This is an enjoyable hobby for me, not a shopping experience.

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CRX wrote:
I would like the sales stuff to be in a place I have to willingly access. This is an enjoyable hobby for me, not a shopping experience.

This site is a very significant source of sales. Vendors have a strong interest in Social Media Marketing through this site.

the whole issue is the Home page of BLF is a list of new posts from all subforums, including the Commercial Sellers Forum.

BLF could modify the way the Home page is setup, so it does not list post updates from the Commercial Forum.

or, we could skip all the spam posts if we do not use the BLF Home page as a way to access the SubForums.

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It is very simple actually
Aff linkers update their OP only an updated OP is not seen ad “updated” and upped to first position of front page.
When USERS post in a thread (like asking M4DM4X for a code) the thread is updated and I bet the good ones (we know who they are) are seen on the front-page more often.
This would take wind out of the sail for several new posts with deals for aff linkers, still have them have their threads but exposure comes from BLFers not aff linkers Wink

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I don’t know how programmable the forum is, but if it were possible, how about if there was a “Non-Commercial sales/Affiliate Links Recent Posts” button under the “Recent Posts” button? Just a thought.

Is it possible for individual users to filter out other users so we don’t see their posts?

People say I’m a flashaholic like it’s a bad thing…

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Mkduffer wrote:
I don’t know how programmable the forum is, but if it were possible, how about if there was a “Non-Commercial sales/Affiliate Links Recent Posts” button under the “Recent Posts” button? Just a thought.

Is it possible for individual users to filter out other users so we don’t see their posts?

We already had that, unfortunately that feature disappeared. I really liked that.

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The best way to keep what you like current is to post in the threads you like. I’ve been watching my favorite threads fall pages down for years for one simple reason, inactivity. Lots of “reads” but too few posts. If you want to contribute, start by saying something.

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MILSPEC wrote:
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Is it possible for individual users to filter out other users so we don’t see their posts?

We already had that, unfortunately that feature disappeared. I really liked that.

I also wish there was an ignore feature on this forum, but that would not stop Commercial Spam from showing up in recent posts, its a totally separate issue.

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jon_slider wrote:
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Mkduffer wrote:
Is it possible for individual users to filter out other users so we don’t see their posts?

We already had that, unfortunately that feature disappeared. I really liked that.

I also wish there was an ignore feature on this forum, but that would not stop Commercial Spam from showing up in recent posts, its a totally separate issue.

That feature did exactly that. Forum can be setup in a way that commercial posts wouldn’t show up for recent posts. At least that is how I remember it. I wonder what happened to that feature.

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The number ONE offenders are:

Fin17

Neither one of these people have posted anything useful

What is my crime?

Every day I am working to get the best deals from Gearbest store manager.
So, I get 3-5-10 deals every day and place the coupon codes in my topic.

What does happen next? After a short time, coupons are copied to other forum topics.
(In the official Gearbest topic also publishes the coupons I received. Sometimes they forget to do it)

I approve that 70-80% of the coupons in my thread were received by me PERSONALLY from the Gearbest manager.
I can confirm this – I still have Skype correspondence.

The remaining coupons are from other sources, not from the BLF.

Concerning my second topic.

On March 8, I was given 31 holiday coupon with very good offers.
I thought they deserved a separate topic. And half a day did the design of the topic, I drew images with logos, etc.

Yes, I see that I was wrong. But is this a crime?

Please be fair!

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MILSPEC wrote:
That feature did exactly that.

really? I do not understand. Do you mean that if I put user Banggood on ignore, and then I reply to a thread they started, that my reply would not bump the thread to the Recent Posts that the BLF Home page is made of?

imo, the whole problem is that the Home page is the Recent Posts, and that Recent Posts in a Commercial thread bumps the Commercial thread to the BLF Home page.

I agree BLF Home page could be set up to not list Recent Posts from the Commercial forum. That way CRX and I could go to the Commercial forum if we choose to, without being forced to see Commercial threads on the BLF Home page.

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jon_slider wrote:
MILSPEC wrote:
That feature did exactly that.
I agree BLF Home page could be set up to not list Recent Posts from the Commercial forum. That way CRX and I could go to the Commercial forum if we choose to, without being forced to see Commercial threads on the BLF Home page.

The second one, we had that exactly like that IIRC. there were two “recent post” links, one with and one without commercial posts.

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Fin17 wrote:
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The number ONE offenders are:

Fin17

Neither one of these people have posted anything useful

What is my crime?

Every day I am working to get the best deals from Gearbest store manager.
So, I get 3-5-10 deals every day and place the coupon codes in my topic.

What does happen next? After a short time, coupons are copied to other forum topics.
(In the official Gearbest topic also publishes the coupons I received. Sometimes they forget to do it)

I approve that 70-80% of the coupons in my thread were received by me PERSONALLY from the Gearbest manager.
I can confirm this – I still have Skype correspondence.

The remaining coupons are from other sources, not from the BLF.

Concerning my second topic.

On March 8, I was given 31 holiday coupon with very good offers.
I thought they deserved a separate topic. And half a day did the design of the topic, I drew images with logos, etc.

Yes, I see that I was wrong. But is this a crime?

Please be fair!

Its good to post new deals, but most of those deals are already public.
Like every day I see new deals posted by you containing the Skilhunt H03 for example, this is a really old deal.
If a code runs out and gets replaced then it is important to update.

Why not simple say Aff links gets updated the codes once per day?

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Fin17 wrote:
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The number ONE offenders are:

Fin17

Neither one of these people have posted anything useful

What is my crime?

Every day I am working to get the best deals from Gearbest store manager.
So, I get 3-5-10 deals every day and place the coupon codes in my topic.

What does happen next? After a short time, coupons are copied to other forum topics.
(In the official Gearbest topic also publishes the coupons I received. Sometimes they forget to do it)

I approve that 70-80% of the coupons in my thread were received by me PERSONALLY from the Gearbest manager.
I can confirm this – I still have Skype correspondence.

The remaining coupons are from other sources, not from the BLF.

Concerning my second topic.

On March 8, I was given 31 holiday coupon with very good offers.
I thought they deserved a separate topic. And half a day did the design of the topic, I drew images with logos, etc.

Yes, I see that I was wrong. But is this a crime?

Please be fair!

No crime of course
But no special deal either AFAIK, just the regular deals and flash deals , that you get them via Skype or email doesn’t change the fact that if any user browses to Gearbest they see the same deals.
Just keep it at one thread please or surprise us with some real unique or special deals.
Also do a little more, review lights, use part of your profits to get some sweet lights to show us in and out. Mod a couple, show why a deal is a good deal. That is contributing to the community
For all I know you do flashlights deals here, RC deals on a RC forum, knifes on a knife forum. Again no crime and your right if admins allow it, but a bit more engagement is just nice to see and shows undisputed you are fond of flashlighs and not in it for money

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RobertB wrote:
How bout an affiliate linker being required to be a contributing member for at least 6 months to a year, with a 200 post count, before they come spam the forum? Content over Spam

I know sb doesn’t like this idea but I’d agree to something along these lines. Its got to the point as others have mentioned that the front page is flooded with sales threads flogging the same dead horse. When is to many enough. As for only posting twice a day whats to stop the thread getting bumped by others every ten minutes which seems to happen on a couple of sales threads.
As for the sales threads owners complaining well stiff.

 

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The Miller wrote:

Also do a little more, review lights, use part of your profits to get some sweet lights to show us in and out. Mod a couple, show why a deal is a good deal. That is contributing to the community
For all I know you do flashlights deals here, RC deals on a RC forum, knifes on a knife forum. Again no crime and your right if admins allow it, but a bit more engagement is just nice to see and shows undisputed you are fond of flashlighs and not in it for money

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I just yesterday made a C8 with an XHP50 diode and two 18350 batteries.

But my knowledge of English does not allow me to communicate on the forum. I’m just reading ….

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Lexel wrote:
Why not simple say Aff links gets updated the codes once per day?

When I first published the received codes together, they were reprinted in other topics. And my theme fell down.
Then I started to publish codes one by one … Sad
That was wrong.

Administrator prohibited to publish proposals in the new message. I shall use the first message only.

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It should be noted that we used to have a personal commercial category for paying banner advertisers on BLF, but those threads weren’t displayed on the Recent Posts list. Eventually, that commercial category was removed, because it was a total flop, almost nobody was finding or reading posts in that subforum because its posts didn’t appear in Recent Posts. So it should be clearly understood that relegating a specific category to not appearing on the Recent Posts list is almost the same as deleting it.

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I have no problem with affiliate threads. Some good deals in m4dm4x,r3crac,fin17,freem or whoever deal threads.

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Fin17 wrote:
When I first published the received codes together, they were reprinted in other topics. And my theme fell down.

 

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Competition between commercial sellers is good for BLF, but bickering and cutthroat competitiveness between BLF liaisons is damaging to the entire BLF community, so please avoid doing so at all cost

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No crime of course But no special deal either AFAIK, just the regular deals and flash deals , that you get them via Skype or email doesn’t change the fact that if any user browses to Gearbest they see the same deals.

Coupons will not be, if they are not requested.
Or rather – will only be to holidays, promotions and anniversaries.

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Many times in my topic I was thanked.
Even more – in PM.

So I dare to hope that my activity is not harmful to the forum.

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johnnyTX wrote:
I have no problem with affiliate threads.

r3crac, you were afraid to speak under your own nick?

Other clones will come too?

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Wait, what? Big Smile

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the ability to filter out the areas I’m not interested in

There are browser extensions helpful for choosing to block display of what you don’t want to see;
using that kind of tool also helps filter out areas that aren’t of interest.

rant
I miss Usenet (sigh). No interface on the web works as well
as a newsreader like “rn” or “nn” did, for choosing what not to see.

Advertisers like us to see pages a lot, I expect.
/rant

I mostly read rarely using the “Recent Posts” link

Usually when I come by I want to see just new comments in subscribed threads —

that view helps a lot: http://budgetlightforum.com/my-subscriptions-new

(after using the “My Subscriptions” User Menu option over there on the sidebar to unsubscribe to individual threads)

Every day or two I look at the page of new comments and subscribe to what I want to see more of.

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Fin17 wrote:

r3crac, you were afraid to speak under your own nick?

Other clones will come too?

Please stop.

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My opinion is that the threads in that forum should not appear on the front page (home page).

They are updated basically CONSTANTLY and are ALWAYS taking up space on the front page.

I don’t necessarily have a problem with those threads existing, I just don’t like that they are always at the top.

Remove the “commercial sellers” and “BLF user negotiated deals” from being displayed on the home page and I think that would be great. The threads can still be updated and available, but users just need to go to the forum to see them.

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I predominately use this site from the home page. I never really browse the subforums to see what is actively happening. Some forums do not move, some do. The fron page it the best way I have to get a thorough oversight of what is happening here.

Just my opinion here…
My experience on other forums was that the “Seller” was not allowed to “bump” his own thread more than once in 24 hours. Actively answering direct questions was OK but meaningless posts to a thread to get it back on top of the front page were not allowed.
Commercial Sellers were (and should be) required to pay a monthly Fee to benefit the site. Private sales are free, but limited.

This Affiliate Link profiting is a side-line Commercial seller scenario and these users should be forum sponsors in some way. Even a monthly $25 flashlight GAW if not giving to the site directly. Set a $20 FINE for violations. If the Admin needs to take time to monitor certain people he should get something for the time and hassle. I bet the rules get straight pretty quick or the offender’s disappear.

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What stops the thread getting bumped fifty times by others?
Edit. When I say bumped I mean a member saying thanks or whatever bumps the sales thread back to the top.

 

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WOW! I think SB addressed the issue and requested that everyone sit back and see how it pans out. let’s give this a rest and see what happens.

respectfully

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