Review: Crelant 7G5 from intl-outdoor [pics heavy, outdoor beamshots updated!]

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Flashlight Foy wrote:

Man, I am jealous.  I really "need" a V3.  Quite simply; it seems like it's just a superb flashlight and it's what a high-end/high performance light should look like.

 

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I agree.  I would love to own one but feel they are a little steep on the price.  Now $100 and it would probably be mine soon. 

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I see it's made from 7075 aluminum, so what else has been upgraded over the 7G3? 

 

Because it's still being sold for $75 from SBFlashlights. I guess that was a good deal until the 7G5 was listed for $78 from intl-outdoor Silly

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They are different Flashlights.

Different head, more fins. 3 vs 4

XM-L T6 vs XM-L U2

Broader working voltages, or let's say different working voltages   2.8 - 9 V  to 3.7 -16V

Most probably the reflector is bigger.

Different clicky,  momentary on vs memory ....

7G3 can be used with one 18650,

7G5 can be used with 2 x 18500 or 2 18650 or 3xcr123A or the rest of the options

An so on........ 


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Great! Thanks for the info. 

 

Still, I would think they're discontinuing the 7G3 since it's been discounted for a while now. I know it definitely used to be sold for more than $75 in the USA. 

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i prefer v3 due to it's design and finishing wise.  V3 body is made from thick aluminium (this could be the thickest flashlight body that i have so far)

It's like comparing a Lexus with Merc... Smile 

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:
I agree.  I would love to own one but feel they are a little steep on the price.  Now $100 and it would probably be mine soon. 

I thought Andy can do it at that price...just got a quote from him yesterday.

Pls don't check out those prices listed at CPF/CPFM.  Most are pretty high and some are daylight robbery at 30% higher even after coupon discounts (esp Fenix).  But pls don't tell them that i said it, coz they will say customer support lah....service, courtesy lah.  Sealed

For me just send it out within 2 days, i receive it in due time (6-12 working days for HK - SIN), can return if there are issues......competitive price (no need to be absolutely cheapest quote), answer emails and don't have to be perfect English.  A-OK!   And of coz don't mess up my order....so far all my stuff don't DOA.

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2100 wrote:

ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:
I agree.  I would love to own one but feel they are a little steep on the price.  Now $100 and it would probably be mine soon. 

I thought Andy can do it at that price...just got a quote from him yesterday.

Pls don't check out those prices listed at CPF/CPFM.  Most are pretty high and some are daylight robbery at 30% higher even after coupon discounts (esp Fenix).  But pls don't tell them that i said it, coz they will say customer support lah....service, courtesy lah.  Sealed

For me just send it out within 2 days, i receive it in due time (6-12 working days for HK - SIN), can return if there are issues......competitive price (no need to be absolutely cheapest quote), answer emails and don't have to be perfect English.  A-OK!   And of coz don't mess up my order....so far all my stuff don't DOA.

Well I will find out.

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Please do report back.

 

So from the info that we have thus far, which would you guys reckon between the Sunwayman T40CS and this light throws better...? I'm itching to buy a thrower just need to decide which one.

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:

Well I will find out.

Sorry, made a mistake, that's for the scorpion v2.

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Zenbaas wrote:

So from the info that we have thus far, which would you guys reckon between the Sunwayman T40CS and this light throws better...? I'm itching to buy a thrower just need to decide which one.

I think this one.

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Itching is not good....

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Hikelite wrote:

Itching is not good....

True, but have you found any good worthwhile remedies...? Big Smile
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Zenbaas, Sunwayman TC40S is a hair better than Cat V2 XM-L (according to selfbuilt's tests). In my tests, Crelant 7G5 beat the Cat V2 XM-L by a good margin, so when it comes to pure specs and results on paper, it's better thrower.

However, difference between 50K lux/1m and 60K lux/1m is not that substantial in real use. If you are unable to see something, shining the 50K light, you probably won't see it with 60K light either. So, whichever light you choose, you will have a very good thrower. Each light has is own strenghts and weak points. I guess, more universal would be TC40S. It's made by a reputable company and built quality is outstanding (if it's the same as other Sunwayman products). Yet, it's unmodable and there's poor chance, user can do something to tweak (or repair) it by himself. Crelant 7G5 is like a heavy tuned car. Sure, it's impressive...  hard driven LED, extreme deep reflector, throw like no other XM-L light. You have an access to all main parts.  But the company is not well known, I guess the support or customer service is non-existent, etc. If you have lots of other lights (like me), 7G5 is like a cherry on the top of whole collection. It's like supercar built by some fanatics. If it has to be your only "daily driver" thrower, I would buy something more trusty and known.

By the way... I'm going to visit my friend right now. On the way back, I'll try to do some beamshots. However, nights are foggy lately, so I'm not sure if they come off good.

Oh... and above there was mentioned about 7075 alloy. Yes, it's more heavy-duty alloy. Tensile strenght is bigger than in 6061 T6. But 7075 has worse thermal conductivity, so it's a tradoff.

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Thank you for the detailed reply coolperl. Having looked at selfbuilt's beam comparison pics between the T40CS and the catapult I prefer the beam profile of the catapult as it appears to have more usable spill compared to the sunwayman. That's also why I'm so curious to see the crelant in action. The pics of the light on intl outdoors looks promising. I hear what you have to say about warranty etc on the sunwayman versus the crelant but the Flashlights both look very well constructed so I don't foresee any problems. The T40CS is also quite a bit more pricey than the crelant last time I checked. I wonder how the hotspots differ between these lights. Interesting times Smile
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Main post updated !!! Laughing

There was no fog... but it was windy and cold. I was frozen to the marrow...

Hotspot of Catapult is the same as hotspot from Crelant, when considering size. But the second one is more intense.

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Made mouse over / mouse out comparison.

 

Mouse out: Catapult V2 @ XM-L

Mouse over: Crelant 7G5

 

 

 

 

Mouse out: Balder BD-4

Mouse over: Crelant 7G5

 

 

 

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Ok you got me wanting one now. 

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Wow, the beam shots seem so similar with the exception of tint. 

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'coolperl' if you're from Poland why don't you post your reviews on one of local forums?

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..In fact, I never thought about it. When I have some free time, I'll make a thread about 7G5. However, this is not a review. Just "my personal impression" thread ...with lots of folks requesting this'n'that about this light Smile


M3TAL_L0RD, Thanks buddy!! Great idea with this "mouse over" stuff !! Smile

 

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Nice shots! 

 

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2100 wrote:

Nice shots! 

 

Very nice indeed..! I really like the beam profile of the catapult and the crelant has a very similar beam profile which is great. I don't like the darker rings or dark spots on the sunwayman. The hotspot on the crelant looks brighter than the catapult as well.
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coolperl wrote:

However, this is not a review. Just "my personal impression" thread ...with lots of folks requesting this'n'that about this light Smile

Well, personal impressions+measurements+informative pics=review.Wink

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I've said it before , and I'll say it some more ...

Mouseovers Rock !

What I do

 

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coolperl wrote:

..In fact, I never thought about it. When I have some free time, I'll make a thread about 7G5. However, this is not a review. Just "my personal impression" thread ...with lots of folks requesting this'n'that about this light Smile


M3TAL_L0RD, Thanks buddy!! Great idea with this "mouse over" stuff !! Smile

 

Well I think you did a great job!  Thanks again for all you do here. 

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Wow, incredible pictures on this review too coolperl. Sorry I missed it until now! Frontpage'd and Sticky'd.

Budget Light Forum ...where Frugal meets with Flashlight!

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Been meaning to ask, how usable is the low mode...? What would you estimate it at...? (lumen wise)

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It's about 200-250 lumens. How usable is it ? ...It depends. To preserve battery juice - it's quite usable, however when shining on far object, I prefer high mode Laughing


Generally, for close distances, I use other flashlights. Throwers are for throw... the brighter, the better. For me, low mode is only for emergencies - when batteries are low or I defenitely don't want more light. But that is rarity.

Different situation is, when you want such flashlight to be floody or be able work on close distances. Then you can buy Olight SR50 diffuser (should fit) or remove the head with the reflector and use the flashlight as a candle. In this case, you get these 200-250lm of pure flood light with over 120 degrees of spread. But again, it's a matter of need and preference. If you don't have any other smaller light with you, low mode of 7G5 is usable.

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coolperl wrote:

It's about 200-250 lumens. How usable is it ? ...It depends. To preserve battery juice - it's quite usable, however when shining on far object, I prefer high mode Laughing


Generally, for close distances, I use other flashlights. Throwers are for throw... the brighter, the better. For me, low mode is only for emergencies - when batteries are low or I defenitely don't want more light. But that is rarity.

Different situation is, when you want such flashlight to be floody or be able work on close distances. Then you can buy Olight SR50 diffuser (should fit) or remove the head with the reflector and use the flashlight as a candle. In this case, you get these 200-250lm of pure flood light with over 120 degrees of spread. But again, it's a matter of need and preference. If you don't have any other smaller light with you, low mode of 7G5 is usable.(Some people will tell you 0.4 lumens is usable as well :D)

Frankly 200-250 lumens is quite bright IMHO although maybe not quite 800 lumens bright Big Smile I was just thinking in case this was the only light you had with you how useful it would be when you needed to conserve battery power. The fact that it can tailstand is also quite nifty and something that some of the other throwers can't. The diffuser is a great idea though. You reckon the SR50 diffuser will fit...?

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is the 7G5 regulated?

W30,K70,sc600w, Aspheric DBS V3, Sanmak 5500 HID,Costco HID, TK-40 and my reliable FJ-40. 

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