Review: Crelant 7G5 from intl-outdoor [pics heavy, outdoor beamshots updated!]

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Yes, it's regulated.

Zenbaas, I also find 0.4 lumens useful. Just not with flashlight that big. When, I'm lugging such mace, it means that I need a lot of light with as much throw, as I can get. In low mode it draws about 0.4A from 2x18650 ...so this is still a lot of light. Enough, for illuminatin 150m away targets.

As for the diffuser, both SR50 and 7G5 have similiar head diameter. So I guess it should fit, or at most needs just a little tweak.

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Great review coolperl, thank you!

7G5 looks like a poor man's catapult and as I am a poor man who - very much - likes catapult, I might get a 7G5 instead Laughing

I am a little confused about Crelant compared to Fandyfire STL-V6 / SkyRay STL-V2. Are they any similar? Does one of them throws better? Has more lumens? Better driver? Better regulation?

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I don't think the Crelant 7G5 is poor man's Catapult.

It's an original product, doesn't look like the Catapult, doesn't try to clone a flashlight like those two STLs.

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I get the impression this is a step up in throw from the STL-V2/6, at least I hope so as I've ordered one of these over those two
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Jeansy wrote:
I get the impression this is a step up in throw from the STL-V2/6, at least I hope so as I've ordered one of these over those two

Just a very very tiny step up.  Type III vs Type II, 7075 vs 6061, thicker walls vs thinner walls.  You decide if $78 is worth over $41.

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Aleister wrote:

I am a little confused about Crelant compared to Fandyfire STL-V6 / SkyRay STL-V2. Are they any similar? Does one of them throws better? Has more lumens? Better driver? Better regulation?

Similar? Well, those are both throwers and look slightly same.

Crelant is more expensive, but has better throw, PWM and built quality and probably more lumens too...

 

I'd call Crelant a premium budget light Big Smile

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Jeansy wrote:
I get the impression this is a step up in throw from the STL-V2/6, at least I hope so as I've ordered one of these over those two

Just a very very tiny step up.  Type III vs Type II, 7075 vs 6061, thicker walls vs thinner walls.  You decide if $78 is worth over $41.

I was going from this comment - "take into account, that BD-4, while the weakest in throw here, is a dedicated thrower with over 35K lux/1m. It has far more throw than other popular flashlights, that are considered to throw quite well (Fenix TK35, Jetbeam BC40)." That makes it sound worth the extra, you comment rather makes it not lol
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2100 wrote:

Jeansy wrote:
I get the impression this is a step up in throw from the STL-V2/6, at least I hope so as I've ordered one of these over those two

Just a very very tiny step up.  Type III vs Type II, 7075 vs 6061, thicker walls vs thinner walls.  You decide if $78 is worth over $41.

Dino has done what it makes best... raised price Big Smile

Now STL-V2 is $49.91 after discount.

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I got STL-V2 for $36.49. Hope they send me a good one.

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2100 wrote:

Jeansy wrote:
I get the impression this is a step up in throw from the STL-V2/6, at least I hope so as I've ordered one of these over those two

Just a very very tiny step up.  Type III vs Type II, 7075 vs 6061, thicker walls vs thinner walls.  You decide if $78 is worth over $41.

Square threads for the 7G5.

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Jeansy, the Balder BD-4 is confirmed a shelf queen.  It is the best looking of the lot, and the most solid of the lot i think.  420g of aluminum!  Crelant 7G5 is 390g.   When you hold it, there is no mistaking it for the STL-V6.

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I bought it primarily as a thrower so the most importand factor is simply the throw, all other aspects are bonus, such as looks, anodising etc
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thanks coolperl.

btw is it safe to use 2 x imr 18500 in this light (shorty mode)? worried that it might fry the light.

W30,K70,sc600w, Aspheric DBS V3, Sanmak 5500 HID,Costco HID, TK-40 and my reliable FJ-40. 

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Jeansy, you made a good decision. This light not only has greater built quality in every aspect, that the STL clones. It has also much deeper reflector and it's driven harder. It also lets you to use 2x18500 in short version.

 

amraspalantir, you are OK to use 2x18500 imr. They won't fry the light, since it has step down converter. Just be careful about over-discharge of the cells, because this light probably hasn't any over-discharge protection and I presume your 18500 imrs are not protected.

 

Oh... and while talking about robust construction, I think Catapult is more heavy duty than BD-4. It's heavier and made from alloy, that is ~60% stronger.

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Also ordered. Looking forward to this when it arrives Smile

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Well I definately am going to get one.  I found a like new Catpult V3 off ebay for $100 shipped.  I had to take it for that price. 

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coolperl wrote:

Jeansy, you made a good decision. This light not only has greater built quality in every aspect, that the STL clones. It has also much deeper reflector and it's driven harder. It also lets you to use 2x18500 in short version.

STL "clones" that aren't really clones, but Olight M3X inspired lights, can also use 2 x 18500.

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I know they're based on M31/M3X ...But they're so heavy inspired, even in internal design, that for me, they are clones. Good ones, but clones. Pity, that they couldn't clone non-PWM circuit.

Although, I didn't know about extension and ability to run on 18500. If not that horrible PWM, I'd probably buy one Smile

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coolperl wrote:

I know they're based on M31/M3X ...But they're so heavy inspired, even in internal design, that for me, they are clones. Good ones, but clones. Pity, that they couldn't clone non-PWM circuit.

Although, I didn't know about extension and ability to run on 18500. If not that horrible PWM, I'd probably buy one Smile

Yeah, better driver would be nice... ~1.4A tailcap current ain't enough Big Smile

Well, sure it would be nice to have better PWM too, but hey it's thrower, so I don't use low. I wouldn't mind it being 1-mode either.

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From the guys who have ordered, does intl-outdoors send a shipping notification...? EDIT: So i received my shipping notification just now, although it says status as "Delivered" and not shipped :/
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Zenbaas wrote:
From the guys who have ordered, does intl-outdoors send a shipping notification...? EDIT: So i received my shipping notification just now, although it says status as "Delivered" and not shipped :/

Mine is exactly the same, I assume they mean dispatched rather than delivered, at least I hope so...

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You made me $78 poorer... Cool

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Can somebody do the beamshots for the above two?

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Aleister wrote:

You made me $78 poorer... Cool

I think it's quite reasonable price, taking into account competition prices, overall output and throw Smile

And yesterday, I made runtime test with 2x17500 AW cells, that I use in my Fenix TA30. The cells are 2 years old (maybe little more) and are rated 1100mAh. The runtime on high was 00h:31m.

The current draw is very high, so voltage sag is also high. The protection circuit kicks in, when there's still some juice left. I put these depleted cells in TA30 and it ran additional 10 minutes on high. So in short version, a good pair of 18500 would rock Cool.

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The Catapult V3 is listed as 390g and BD-4 is 410g so that's a hair heavier.  But that's 7075 goodness (I read that there are even some variations in this alloy) so yeah that's also a toughie.  But i guess in reality they are all very close and there are more impt things to consider.  Smile

http://www.thrunite.com/en/ProductView.aspx?id=49

http://www.mybalder.com/product/html/?51.html

 

coolperl wrote:

Although, I didn't know about extension and ability to run on 18500. If not that horrible PWM, I'd probably buy one Smile

The STL-V2 can run with the Dereelight DBS/CL1H bodies, and my Ultrafire U80.  So you can even use 2 x 18350.  The BIO/powerwholesale IMRs are good.  So it would be a X9 kinda length thrower.

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Selfbuilt made a weight measurements for all Catapults:

Catapult V3 XM-L: Weight: 434.8g, Length: 254mm, Width (bezel) 58.0mm, Width (tailcap) 35.1mm.
Catapult V2 XM-L: Weight: 438.2g, Length: 255mm, Width (bezel) 58.1mm, Width (tailcap) 35.0mm.
Catapult V2 SST-50: Weight: 446.4g, Length: 254mm, Width (bezel) 58.0mm, Width (tailcap) 35.0mm.
Catapult V1 SST-50: Weight: 410.5g, Length: 250mm, Width (bezel) 59.0mm, Width (tailcap) 34.4mm.

All flashlights with extender tubes, but without batteries.

If Thrunite have problems with posting true ANSI rating for their lights, maybe they also don't know, how to use scales. Laughing

I hope, all you guys who ordered 7G5, will post your impressions (and measurements, if possible), when you get it.

As for variations in certain alloy, there are plenty. If you need more information about different alloys, check out the "Matweb".

http://www.matweb.com/search/MaterialGroupSearch.aspx?GroupID=180

Aluminium alloys are in Metals >Non-ferrous Metal section. According to maunfacturers, a good quality brands use "6061 T6" or "7075 T5" alloys. DX stuff is probably random... The cheapest stuff from DX use probably the cheapest alloys available (certainly not 6061 T6). I once hit the metal pipe with X2000 flashlight. The battery tube broke apart where the thread ends... And it wasn't even hard hit.

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You break my heart coolperl, should have ordered the Catapult V3 to be part of the collection instead of the Balder BD-4.    I probably browsed/cursorily came across through the info, but did not think about this in detail. 

The BD-4 is sexier though.  Big Smile

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Well, eventually you'll buy Catapult V3 too... It's only a matter of time. Laughing This stainless steel crenelated bezel of Cat is hard to resist. Check out my pics again... Cool

Then, your collection will be more ... uhm...how to say it... "complete". A most sexy and most sturdy lights together. Like a well-matched couple ...lol.

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Luckily i have no preference for SS bits, i don't hate it neither do i love it.  heh...

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Some measurements.  All using the same set of battery (Sanyo 2600 unpro).

Ceiling bounce :

T40CS : 79 lux

7G5 : 79 lux

STL-V6 : 73 lux

 

Direct beam at 8.17m :   (all raw figures direct from DX meter which under-reads, not corrected).  I tend to get higher figures at 50m but this is what i can do now.

T40CS : 670 lux = 44.7k cd.  Highest reading is found at the edges

7G5 : 741 lux = 49.5k cd  Highest reading is at the centre

STL-V6  : 634 lux = 42.3k cd.

 

I tried to use ice to cool the 7G5 and STL-V6.

7G5 : 800 lux = 53.4k cd

STL-V6 : 670 lux = 44.4k cd.

 

Glass of 7G5 cuts 0.8%, very low.  IIRC STL-V6 cuts about 4-5%, i posted before.

 

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