New Zanflare dual AA light

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New Zanflare dual AA light

It is interesting Jaxman brought us that dual AA with larger head.
And now Gearbest has a new light in pre sale that looks pretty promising
http://m.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_613216.html

It is almost like they read what we want Big Smile

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Sounds like a good no nonsense flashlight. Compared to the Jaxman M2:
-bit more boring design (the Jaxman was already not breathtaking)
-2cm longer!
-smaller reflector, but smooth
-smaller emitter, only 200lm vs 400 for the M2, I measured 320 (which was already not impressive for a 2xAA light)
-more modes
In my opinion the Jaxman M2 is more atractive, mainly for its bigger reflector so it is more throwy (especially with the XM-L2 replaced by a smaller led) and that makes it stand out against other 2xAA lights.

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I like the low battery advise Led on the Zanflare f2, is a innovative option for a 2xAA flashlight.

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This light is not ready yet . They are being made some changes to it before production begins .

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giorgoskok wrote:
This light is not ready yet . They are being made some changes to it before production begins .

They may get a bit more lumens out of the F2?
In use, the 200 lumen will be plenty and gives a good runtime, but 200 lumen does not sell well if other brands can squeeze 500 lumen out of the same AA batteries.
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One more “contender”…. Sofirn SF13

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Small head, but very budget friendly… They were $9 a couple of days ago(probably again), and the store also have some usefull coupons lowering the price even more. Probaby decent quality because it is probably the same manufacturer as for example Thorfire TG06 wich used to have Sofirn written on the driver.

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One more “contender”…. Sofirn SF13….They were $9 a couple of days ago(probably again)

Very nice model, but now it’s 15,99$ Shocked
At 9$ it was a no brainer…but 15,99 it’s a no go (for me)

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giorgoskok wrote:
This light is not ready yet . They are being made some changes to it before production begins .

Yes we ought to give pointers now that they can implement them.

Let me start with:
No glue! Wink

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It is a nice looking light, just from the one picture. I’d be interested if/when they get the specs worked out. I definitely want to see better output. You can get over 100lm from a single AAA light, so a 2AA light should be quite a bit more than 200lm to be worth carrying the extra size/weight.

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Interesting.

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DavidEF wrote:
It is a nice looking light, just from the one picture. I’d be interested if/when they get the specs worked out. I definitely want to see better output. You can get over 100lm from a single AAA light, so a 2AA light should be quite a bit more than 200lm to be worth carrying the extra size/weight.

IMO 2AA is more about the duration it can produce the light, rather than the total output when you are comparing to a single AA.

Personally for a 2AA light, I’d rather one that worked well and is usable than a headline grabber that depletes its batteries too quickly. Lets face it, anyone wanting ‘high’ performance will opt for Li-ion or at the very least a 4AA light.

2AA is about being truly mass market and usable by all. If it fails at this, then there is little point in it.

That said, I don’t know what type of LED this is, if it’s a large LED (XM-L2/XP-L) or small (XP-G2). As obviously LED type will play a part on the lumen figure.

If it’s a big LED, then 300 lumens is probably not a bad target and if the XP-G2 then 250 lumens. Either way you should end up with truly impressive runtimes when compared to a 1AA light making less lumens, maybe 2 or 3 times better runtime or more.

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my acebeam pt10 2*aaa light produce 360 lumen, i hope it is at least like that
and if you want a very long run time, use low mode, it’s not that hard
i dont see any reason why not making high lumen 2*AA here

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mrheosuper wrote:
my acebeam pt10 2*aaa light produce 360 lumen, i hope it is at least like that
and if you want a very long run time, use low mode, it’s not that hard
i dont see any reason why not making high lumen 2*AA here

I don’t know much about the Acebeam, but I bet it doesn’t sustain that output or anywhere close too.

And the issue with just using a low mode is twofold.

1. Spacing, often a low or mid mode output will be a lot lower, not just a bit lower.
2. Many budget lights still use awful PWM on lower modes, so making their use undesirable.

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Actually the Acebeam has more consistent output than I’d give it:

But it is an XP-L emitter, which I said above should be good for 300’ish lumens. So pretty much the same thing you are saying you want anyway.

But the Acebeam PT10 is a good example of a poor flashlight design, it offers only a low of 30’ish lumens or 300+ and nowhere inbetween. The high output has poor runtimes on AAA’s too. 2xAA should offer better runtimes, but it’s about a balance of abilities to make a flashlight good and usable.

For example, if you want to go for an hours walk at night, the torch should be able to supply a good amount of light for that duration.

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Acebeam pt10, can’t be budget friendly Wink
And it is one of those pen lights if I’m not mistaken, a format that had no appeal to me for one.
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Yes I think long cool running is much more important for non-BLFers
Comvined with a fairly good throw sounds good.

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giorgoskok wrote:
This light is not ready yet . They are being made some changes to it before production begins .
Certainly higher output would be a more attractive move, unless it is to be advertised as a runtime king.
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mrheosuper wrote:
my acebeam pt10 2*aaa light produce 360 lumen, i hope it is at least like that and if you want a very long run time, use low mode, it’s not that hard i dont see any reason why not making high lumen 2*AA here

My acebeam PT10 offers 360 lumens in Acebeam’s dreams …..;-)

Some good 2xAA lights like Nitecore MT21A offers really around 250 lumens for a short time and after 2 or 3 minutes have step down to around 180-190 lumens…

200 lumens well regulated is fine for me if the price is low, for less than 18 USD with the advise for low and very low battery is interesting for general use.

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i was told they will squeeze 40+ mins of 200 Lumens and then it will go within a few minutes down to MID

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If a 2AA LED flashlight can’t do well over 200lm, it isn’t a well designed light in my opinion. Like I said, a decent single AAA light will provide ~100lm output. The difference in Eneloop PRO Black is 900mAH for a AAA and 2450mAH for AA. That would be like saying that two 250lb men can only lift together about double as much as a single 90lb boy. It’s not even remotely logical. A boost driver working from one cell is certainly going to struggle compared to using two cells. Also, the space available for the driver itself is much smaller in a AAA light. A larger driver (including larger coil) pulling from two much larger cells, should do quite a bit better than a mere double output. For runtime, there’s always lower modes.

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2aa lights are too long for my tastes. A single aa is really handy. If I need more light and run time a 18650 tube light is just right.

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> too long …
Yeah, 2AA in a line makes a fairly unweildy flashlight, in today’s terms.

I wish China would copy some of the older good ideas out there.

Long ago I used little wedge-shaped flashlights that had 2xAA cells side by side.
That setup allows a fairly large rectangular reflector.
They had a simple rocker switch on the side.

They fit the hand perfectly.
They were my backup caving flashlight for many years.

EDIT, someone at CPF posted a picture of a light similar to what I’m recalling:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?150257-What-was-your-...

Rufus had one similar: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/880444#comment-880444

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Dang, that was quick! (grin)

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MT22A, Have they arranged the interface? or is the strobe mode inside the normal secuence of modes….?I

I think also F2 have interface with strobe in normal secuence of modes….what are thinking chinese designers?

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Trevi_lux wrote:
I think also F2 have interface with strobe in normal secuence of modes….what are thinking chinese designers?

It might change Smile
I will write when i know for sure .