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But i love the design concept.
Will possibly be as tiny as the DQG ?
No, the DQG sacrifices too much in order to achieve its small size for my liking. It has no glass lens to protect the optics, especially for an EDC light this is important. Additionally, there is no tailcap spring, which is quite bad for the battery and the LED sits directly on the driver-PCB which grants horrible heat-sinking.
Well, the size of this light is still excellent, under 95mm.
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But i love the design concept.
Will possibly be as tiny as the DQG ?
No, the DQG sacrifices too much in order to achieve its small size for my liking.
I agree.
I set out to mod it but i have put it aside for later…
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It has no glass lens to protect the optics, especially for an EDC light this is important. Additionally, there is no tailcap spring, which is quite bad for the battery and the LED sits directly on the driver-PCB which grants horrible heat-sinking.
Yeah, it’s a shame they didn’t use a metal PCB (alu or copper), that would have solved the heat problem it has.
But when you put a triple in it, you gain space for a MCPCB on the shelf.
And since this thing here has a triple set up, i thought it might be just as short as the DQG.
This is really going to be a multilingual enterprise. I guess 3 languages is 36 times more challenging than 2 languages.
At my age you want lumens. If there is to be a CW version, put me on the list for one.
The add-on in my eyes automatic translates CW to other parts of the spectrum.
To compensate for my eye-sight I have certain other means of perception.
In my crystall ball I can see versions with wood tubes (RBD) and carbon tubes (CRX) due to the double tube.
PS: Please hit the “rude”-button if I (mis)quote lines from popular UK made TV-series.
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You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
I know, I’m probably too much the technical perfectionist (or anal or something) but…
The tail cap is not meant to be taken off to change the cell, so why does it have knurling on it? With the design calling for the tube to be removed for a cell change the tube itself should have knurling to make it easier to take the sections apart. Right? Then that little groove on the tail cap could be left solid so the threads would be that much stronger.
I’m saying this because of the square threads at the head and the retaining ring on the driver. There are normal weaker threads on the tail cap and no retaining ring on the switch PCB, hence, battery swap through the top.
Is this something that can be addressed?
I’m so forgetful I’d forever and always be removing the tail cap to get to the cell, like all the other lights I own.
Driver is needed close to the LED for the thermal regulation of Narsil to do its job, though a driver in the tail is clever indeed
That’s a very good reason.
It would be great if there were some Nichia options, as I have little interest in the XP-G3. I’m interested either way though; I can change the emitters myself.
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Ceilingbounce – flashlight testing and runtime graphs for Android
The clear ano would not be my idea, and it will have huge problems running on the FET (15+ amps, on XP-G3 while 3A is sensible for a skinny light like this and already gives lots of light), but still I’m in wholeheartedly.
I may be missing something, but why not just put the driver in the tail? Most of these FET and 7135 drivers work by applying PWM (and in the case of the 7135, variable resistance) between LED- and BAT-. The connection from BAT+ to LED+ is direct; it doesn’t even touch the driver board in the case of the new version 17DDm.
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That is a good idea and I thought briefly about it but was not comfortable with the Battery+ being so close to Battery- (the microcontroller for example needs a connection to Battery+). In case of a short between the two tubes (for whatever reason) you’d fry the battery. With the current design the worst thing that happens is that the light gets turned on and you still can operate it by loosening and tightening the head.
djozz points at my initial thought, anyone realize how hot this will get and how fast it will do it? I’ll wager that on a good cell, in Turbo, you won’t be able to hold it in 20 seconds. (Thermal step down not inclusive, it won’t run long in Turbo in other words, not long at all)
Hey, after all a Turbo is’nt meant to be used for extended time
Seeing my HC30 TA FET driven getting scorching hot in less than 30S, I can’t imagine how this one will get with 3 emitters freely fed by a 30Q !
A true Pocket rocket !
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"-X3-, is there any place in your house without a flashlight ?"
Well, the size of this light is still excellent, under 95mm.
I will buy at least one for sure.
We are talking to a Chinese party. Cannot say more for now.
Driver is needed close to the LED for the thermal regulation of Narsil to do its job, though a driver in the tail is clever indeed
It is done when it is done

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I set out to mod it but i have put it aside for later… Yeah, it’s a shame they didn’t use a metal PCB (alu or copper), that would have solved the heat problem it has.
But when you put a triple in it, you gain space for a MCPCB on the shelf.
And since this thing here has a triple set up, i thought it might be just as short as the DQG.
I was post #14 and you did not put me on the list……………..
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Great looking light, and design. Please add me to the list.
Please put me up for one..
This is really going to be a multilingual enterprise. I guess 3 languages is 36 times more challenging than 2 languages.
At my age you want lumens. If there is to be a CW version, put me on the list for one.
The add-on in my eyes automatic translates CW to other parts of the spectrum.
To compensate for my eye-sight I have certain other means of perception.
In my crystall ball I can see versions with wood tubes (RBD) and carbon tubes (CRX) due to the double tube.
PS: Please hit the “rude”-button if I (mis)quote lines from popular UK made TV-series.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
I know who said that
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
I would like one. Please put me on the list. Thanks
just checked my balance, too bad, i’m so broken
i need an oscilloscope instead of 1 more light
Forgot my pen
I’ll take 2 please.
Please add me in for 1
Don’t know who said it but sure not right I missed you Stittville, will correct it next time list gets updated, sorry.
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How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
I know, I’m probably too much the technical perfectionist (or anal or something) but…
The tail cap is not meant to be taken off to change the cell, so why does it have knurling on it? With the design calling for the tube to be removed for a cell change the tube itself should have knurling to make it easier to take the sections apart. Right? Then that little groove on the tail cap could be left solid so the threads would be that much stronger.
I’m saying this because of the square threads at the head and the retaining ring on the driver. There are normal weaker threads on the tail cap and no retaining ring on the switch PCB, hence, battery swap through the top.
Is this something that can be addressed?
I’m so forgetful I’d forever and always be removing the tail cap to get to the cell, like all the other lights I own.
That’s a very good reason.
It would be great if there were some Nichia options, as I have little interest in the XP-G3. I’m interested either way though; I can change the emitters myself.
Ceilingbounce – flashlight testing and runtime graphs for Android
I can not else but love it? Well done Fritz!
The clear ano would not be my idea, and it will have huge problems running on the FET (15+ amps, on XP-G3 while 3A is sensible for a skinny light like this and already gives lots of light), but still I’m in wholeheartedly.
link to djozz tests
Put me up for one, thanks.
I would like 1
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1 for me please
That is a good idea and I thought briefly about it but was not comfortable with the Battery+ being so close to Battery- (the microcontroller for example needs a connection to Battery+). In case of a short between the two tubes (for whatever reason) you’d fry the battery. With the current design the worst thing that happens is that the light gets turned on and you still can operate it by loosening and tightening the head.
Nice—-I’ll take one
djozz points at my initial thought, anyone realize how hot this will get and how fast it will do it? I’ll wager that on a good cell, in Turbo, you won’t be able to hold it in 20 seconds.
(Thermal step down not inclusive, it won’t run long in Turbo in other words, not long at all)
I like it! Please put me down for one.
Thanks
Hey, after all a Turbo is’nt meant to be used for extended time
Seeing my HC30 TA FET driven getting scorching hot in less than 30S, I can’t imagine how this one will get with 3 emitters freely fed by a 30Q !
A true Pocket rocket !
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I`d like one. Thank you!
Dale with the knurled head changing cells shouldn’t be a problem. Designwise a knurled tube would not look as nice as what Fritz made IMHO
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
i’ll take one of each (assuming a copper and titanium version will follow). otherwise, just this one
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Put me on the list for one, please.
This looks great!
Sign me up for one please.
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