I see both sides as well. My Emisar D4 does what this light is proposed to do, so it’s not like I’m going to be at a loss if this light never happens. This is a hobby for 99% of us so we definitely should respect other people’s decision if they go “cold turkey” and leave the hobby. Obviously we can’t force a member to make lights for us
For me, it rubs me that they still log in, possibly even reads this thread, yet refuse to chime in on anything. If Fritz hadn’t logged in since his last post in 2018, we could all assume he gave up the hobby, or worse, and we could move on. But every month when he logs in, we’re reminded he is still here, just chooses not to speak. Which for me, is frustrating considering how close to the finish line we are.
Not only a cat has so many lives… don’t give up too early.
Nice
Someone mentioned disappointment.
It is indeed disappointing that this project seems to be grinding to a halt.
And even if it doesn’t grind to a halt, it’s disappointing there is little to no progress at the moment, and that the main players seem to have disappeared.
Needless to say that nobody is obliged to do anything they don’t want to do anymore.
I get that no one owes us anything. No money has been laid out, only a “I’m in for one”. You think that from a marketing standpoint, keeping us updated from time to time would be good business sense. Hundreds of requests already with no communication, just think what it could be with an occasional update.
That looks amazing tatasal. Lets get this moving to production.
I agree a hobby is for fun. But when a project like this is made public, we all get excited to see the finished product.
To not get stressed and bombarded with messages from members its best to keep the idea private so no one knows until it is ready to ship if that is the plan
Teacher, you aren’t old enough to remember that.
The light does look great.
I keep thinking how cool a 18650 light this small would be.
I sure hope it still happens.
Teacher, you aren’t old enough to remember that.
The light does look great.
I keep thinking how cool a 18650 light this small would be.
I sure hope it still happens.
I sometimes wish I weren’t old enough to remember cabfrank. . IIRC, I think I would have been in about the 4th grade at that time.
Yep, those pictures are very impressive!! I’m hoping so too.
In fact, despite everything; I think it will.
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The light does look great.
I keep thinking how cool a 18650 light this small would be.
I sure hope it still happens.
There are smaller 18650 lights out now. The D4 is close in size. The Zebralight SC64 is smaller, and my favorite production light so far (although I wish it had the double springs of the SC62).
An 18650 light this small isn’t new. Several Zebralights, the Nitecore HC30, some DQG stuff, and others are the same size or smaller. While a tail-e-switch on an 18650 light this small probably was new when the FW3A was announced, the Folomov 18650S has that.
I’m not sure the FW3A does any one thing that hasn’t been done before, but it combines a lot of good ideas that are rare in the industry with good physical design, good emitter options, high max output, and a great UI.
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When people are depending on you & your input about something, so that it may come to completion… there is absolutely no excuse on earth to just ‘disappear & go totally silent’ unless you are dead, totally incapacited (physically or mentally), or lost in a remote wilderness area. No excuse at all.
It makes no difference if life happens, you lose interest, you get mad, whatever.
It takes about a minute or two to make a short post (in the case of BLF) or send an email saying you quit & pass the torch on to someone else.
My opinion:
2) For Fritz and most others this project is part of his hobby. Essential to hobby is that there are no obligations. If he feels like it he may disappear and go silent just like that, for any or no reason. It is a pity for Lumintop, Toykeeper and all other people who have hope for his continuing input, and a message explaining why is welcome (you’d be surprised how much effort it takes to write a simple message in a situation where people are so demanding as in this thread), but actually demanding anything is totally out of place.
I have to agree with teacher on this one. If you are just participating as an individual in a hobby, then sure you can just go dark with no explanation or obligation, but when you are the founder and organizer of a movement involving 200 pages, over 6000 posts and 2000 commitments to order a product, then you DO have an obligation as a regular decent human being to at least keep people informed of your intentions. especially considering you are still logging into the site. It’s complete crap to claim that you have no obligation to even post “I quit” at that point. Sure everyone is busy with life, but how many of us would use that as excuse to leave over 1200 people waiting on even a few words for over 6 months? That’s majorly uncool.
I see both sides as well. My Emisar D4 does what this light is proposed to do, so it’s not like I’m going to be at a loss if this light never happens. This is a hobby for 99% of us so we definitely should respect other people’s decision if they go “cold turkey” and leave the hobby. Obviously we can’t force a member to make lights for us
For me, it rubs me that they still log in, possibly even reads this thread, yet refuse to chime in on anything. If Fritz hadn’t logged in since his last post in 2018, we could all assume he gave up the hobby, or worse, and we could move on. But every month when he logs in, we’re reminded he is still here, just chooses not to speak. Which for me, is frustrating considering how close to the finish line we are.
Not only a cat has so many lives… don’t give up too early.
Are those new pictures? It looks so good with that color
Nice
Someone mentioned disappointment.
It is indeed disappointing that this project seems to be grinding to a halt.
And even if it doesn’t grind to a halt, it’s disappointing there is little to no progress at the moment, and that the main players seem to have disappeared.
Needless to say that nobody is obliged to do anything they don’t want to do anymore.
I love it
I get that no one owes us anything. No money has been laid out, only a “I’m in for one”. You think that from a marketing standpoint, keeping us updated from time to time would be good business sense. Hundreds of requests already with no communication, just think what it could be with an occasional update.
Dark matt grey?
Uh!
A light Batman would carry
Man that looks good. If only we could get a real HA III finish on it.
tatasal that is so beautiful! I really like the flush attachment on the pocket clip. How does the tailcap look?
Do you have any information for us? We are dying for info here!
That looks amazing tatasal. Lets get this moving to production.
I agree a hobby is for fun. But when a project like this is made public, we all get excited to see the finished product.
To not get stressed and bombarded with messages from members its best to keep the idea private so no one knows until it is ready to ship if that is the plan
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tatasal How did you end up with 3 of them?
Or just maybe…… 1 light, three pictures._
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Teacher, you aren’t old enough to remember that.
The light does look great.
I keep thinking how cool a 18650 light this small would be. I sure hope it still happens.
IIRC, I think I would have been in about the 4th grade at that time.
Yep, those pictures are very impressive!! I’m hoping so too.
In fact, despite everything; I think it will.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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My god…did you REALLY just ask that question. Surely you were joking
Noooooooooooooo waiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!
I am also hoping he was joking…. otherwise, he needs to get some rest. .
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Or only three pictures, no lamp?
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#LIGHTPORN
I love that color
In for two please! Really nice, it reminds me of LiteFlux
Think twice, act fast!
There are smaller 18650 lights out now. The D4 is close in size. The Zebralight SC64 is smaller, and my favorite production light so far (although I wish it had the double springs of the SC62).
I’m in for one LH351D, please and thank you!
I have to admit, in and of itself, that light in dark charcoal matte grey looks very nice.
I agree. Is this another prototype that has been released? Did I miss something?
I’m listed for 2 … after seeing these images, I may opt for more
Perhaps tatasal can solve the mystery of those pictures?
link to djozz tests
An 18650 light this small isn’t new. Several Zebralights, the Nitecore HC30, some DQG stuff, and others are the same size or smaller. While a tail-e-switch on an 18650 light this small probably was new when the FW3A was announced, the Folomov 18650S has that.
I’m not sure the FW3A does any one thing that hasn’t been done before, but it combines a lot of good ideas that are rare in the industry with good physical design, good emitter options, high max output, and a great UI.
Ceilingbounce – flashlight testing and runtime graphs for Android | Zak Reviews – my flashlight reviews, with lots of runtime graphs
I have to agree with teacher on this one. If you are just participating as an individual in a hobby, then sure you can just go dark with no explanation or obligation, but when you are the founder and organizer of a movement involving 200 pages, over 6000 posts and 2000 commitments to order a product, then you DO have an obligation as a regular decent human being to at least keep people informed of your intentions. especially considering you are still logging into the site. It’s complete crap to claim that you have no obligation to even post “I quit” at that point. Sure everyone is busy with life, but how many of us would use that as excuse to leave over 1200 people waiting on even a few words for over 6 months? That’s majorly uncool.
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