Mostly, yes. I just needed to make the 1-click black lines and the 2-click green lines more visually distinct in ways which are visible on a black-and-white laser printer.
I don’t see the parallel lines. Are you saying that is something you have to add?
Look real close, the broken green line is two parallel lines.
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Bingo, I was starting to think I was loosing my mind.
Yes, that should work well in black and white. I find it odd that people are having trouble understanding Anduril. I true believe anyone will have this mastered by the time they drain there first cell.
I like the look but the only disappointing thing to me is the clip isn’t very deep carry. Hopefully there will be an alternative or aftermarket option.
@TK
i already told Neal that a colored manual is a MUST (for every Anduril driven light)
i hope he can convince the manufacturers
Sounds good. But that’s extra cost for the manufacturers, many of whom probably routinely only make black and white manuals.
Rather than trying to get manufacturers to change, it’s probably much easier to just make a black and white compatible version.
Also, there’s no need to have just one version: Keep the color version, just also make a black and white alternate version.
Honestly I think a good manual should be readable and usable in color AND black and white. I don’t see a reason for two different version when all it takes to make it b/w friendly is probably just some different line pattern.
Andúril UI graphic
I tinkerd with the UI graphic a while ago with double lines for the green stuff.
I also did a few scaled down versions too because Toykeeper said she has no more space. A 95% and two in 90% and mailed TK.
Maybe use one of those? My experience with manufacturers is, regardless if the first run of documentations is full colour, there is always an idiot in the company who change them to black and white in order to save money. (And scales them down also)
Edit:
Ups,
I should read first the whole thread. TK posted it
I like the look but the only disappointing thing to me is the clip isn’t very deep carry. Hopefully there will be an alternative or aftermarket option.
+ 1
The clip as is would look sleeker but I would prefer the functionality of a deep carry clip.
@Toykeeper
It looks good!
It seems you redid your version or?
With your own character with no whitespace left and right, but only a few pixels wide to get smooth curves in tight radiuses?
Or why has a “=” a bend?
Everything I write here is only a suggestion, please choose only what you like.
In the later versions I have an additional line in the top left corner as a clue for the user.
Is it intentional that the double lines (text) goes into the arrowheads? Guess Yes.
(Otherwise you must lower the text under the path.)
And you have a uniform lenght of green line in the arrow heads. Do you use the heads as starting point for the char? Nice idea.
Hey, you can place a white snow flake as first char to have it the arrow head, so it is more distinguishable to the black lines
When printed small the double lines are also tough. One option is to up the char size or to use other chars.
Maybe ╳ U+2573 is a better option?
And the line for other actions can also blur when printed small. That is a normal inkscape line style of I remember correctly. A bit fatter would be good.
The text in Lockout is too low contrast, depending how they print. Please use a bright grey or white
I would also brighten up the dark lower part of the ramp box.
or lay under the arrow head a white shape so it has a fine white line. The same for the dashed floor line part which is in the box
The red background in the temp check bubble can print in grey. A white outline on the text keep it readable under every circumstance.
A few other line stiles I came up with
(I don’t know if all the Unicode characters show up in the browser)
Other options from Unicode Boxdrawing are:
(haven’t tested how bendy they are)
╩ U+2569 and ╦ U+2566 ╩╦╩╦
╬ U+256C ╬╬╬╬╬╬
╫ U+256B ╫╫╫╫╫╫
╳ U+2573 ╳╳╳╳╳╳
╳ U+2573 and space ╳╳ ╳╳ ╳╳ ╳╳
╳╳╳ ╳╳╳ ╳╳╳
Other options from Blockelements are:
▚ U+259A ▚▚▚▚▚▚▚▚
▁ U+2581 and ▔ U+2594 ▔▁▔▁▔▁▔▁
Other misc stuff
▰ U+25B0 and ▱ U+25B1 ▰▱▰▱▰
▰▰▰▱▰▰▰▱▰▰▰▱▰▰▰▱
▰ ▰ ▰ ▱ ▰ ▰ ▰ ▱ ▰ ▰ ▰ ▱
▰▱▱▱▰▱▱▱▰▱▱▱▰
• • • • • • • • • Bullets and Space
══☠═══☠═══☠══ Dangerline
══☃══☃══☃ ➡ Winterline
❆ U+2746 ❆❆❆❆❆❆❆ Line of snow (maybe illigal in some countries)
…
…
Have you noticed the reduced versions I mailed? You never talked back:
I also did a few scaled down versions too because you said you have no more space. A 95% and two in 90% and mailed it.
My experience with manufacturers is, regardless if the first run of documentations is full colour, there is always an idiot in the company who change them later to black and white in order to save money. (And scales them down also)
Why is everyone always fixing at stuff that ain’t broke?
Joe, the chart you linked there has no thermal or beacon configuration instructions. Just saying. Edit: Ah, found them in the box, nevermind… going to make coffee now… (the bad memory thing, resist change, get confused if everything isn’t in it’s spot… been doing Anduril too long already)
To whom? I’ve done a few weddings before, but I hope you don’t expect anything traditional or serious. It’s more fun to do the marriage scene from The Princess Bride, or some other silliness.
Cereal_killer wrote:
What is this vision pin / “optic nerve” in the fw3a hwdef file?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Now, back on topic…
candor wrote:
liquidretro wrote:
I like the look but the only disappointing thing to me is the clip isn’t very deep carry. Hopefully there will be an alternative or aftermarket option.
+ 1
The clip as is would look sleeker but I would prefer the functionality of a deep carry clip.
I generally like deep-carry clips too, but I find this one is still pretty good. I think it’s my favorite non-deep-carry clip so far.
joechina wrote:
It seems you redid your version or?
Yeah, I did. Flowing unicode characters along the curve was a really clever idea, but I went for something a bit simpler instead. It’s just a thin white line on top of the wider green line. I should probably move the arrow heads up to a higher layer to avoid the white going into the arrow, but that was extra effort and it’s more visually distinct this way. Maybe I’ll do that later.
There was also the option of converting the path to a solid, and using strokes along the edges of the solid, but that has its own difficulties.
joechina wrote:
I would also …
I may change some of these things too, depending on how it looks when printed.
joechina wrote:
Have you noticed the reduced versions I mailed?
Yes, I’ve just had a large backlog to catch up on.
I am new to collecting flashlights and to this forum. ToyKeeper, you are a kind, helpful and generous lady to share your brilliant work so that novices like me can get such enjoyment with the amazing technology in flashlights. Two years ago I would have never believed what is possible today. Keep up the good work.
To whom? I’ve done a few weddings before, but I hope you don’t expect anything traditional or serious. It’s more fun to do the marriage scene from The Princess Bride, or some other silliness.
Fwashwights. Fwashwights are what bwings us….together…on weddit. That bwinding emitter. That hotspot within the beam.
….
Have you an HDS with wotary control wing?
ToyKeeper wrote:
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Why do I get the sense that it is watching my computer monitor?
What is this vision pin / “optic nerve” in the fw3a hwdef file?
ToyKeeper wrote:
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Now, back on topic…
I believe that he was asking what the vision pin and optic nerve actually were, the reason for either being included in the file or whatever else you could tell us about the two terms.
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(Flagguys.com):..and man o man did they ever refuse to be subjugated. These guys were everywhere. They were important in Washington’s siege of Boston. They stayed behind and were the last to leave after covering the main army’s dangerous nick of time retreat from Long Island. They crossed the Delaware with Washington. They were “..at Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, and every major skirmish, and battle all the way to Yorktown..” where they fought “the most important part of the siege” according to General Steuben. These guys saw action in every one of the original 13 colonies.
What is this vision pin / “optic nerve” in the fw3a hwdef file?
ToyKeeper wrote:
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Now, back on topic…
I believe that he was asking what the vision pin and optic nerve actually were, the reason for either being included in the file or whatever else you could tell us about the two terms.
It’s actually talked about in this thread, somewhere way back ago. TK has come up with a way to program the driver using the main LED as a receiver and literally “flashing” the driver with a computer screen. The FW3A will NOT have this functionality, but the firmware has code for it, because it is firmware that will work for more than just the FW3A. It’s really cool stuff. But maybe not as cool as a flashlight that can spy on people.
—
The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
What is this vision pin / “optic nerve” in the fw3a hwdef file?
ToyKeeper wrote:
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Now, back on topic…
I believe that he was asking what the vision pin and optic nerve actually were, the reason for either being included in the file or whatever else you could tell us about the two terms.
It’s actually talked about in this thread, somewhere way back ago. TK has come up with a way to program the driver using the main LED as a receiver and literally “flashing” the driver with a computer screen. The FW3A will NOT have this functionality, but the firmware has code for it, because it is firmware that will work for more than just the FW3A. It’s really cool stuff. But maybe not as cool as a flashlight that can spy on people.
Wow that’s cool, I would love to read up on the idea if anyone’s got any links. I have a few driver projects going on now following the FW3A driver setup so maybe it’s something I could implement too in the future.
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RIP SPC Joey Riley, KIA 11/24/14. Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
What is this vision pin / “optic nerve” in the fw3a hwdef file?
ToyKeeper wrote:
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Now, back on topic…
I believe that he was asking what the vision pin and optic nerve actually were, the reason for either being included in the file or whatever else you could tell us about the two terms.
It’s actually talked about in this thread, somewhere way back ago. TK has come up with a way to program the driver using the main LED as a receiver and literally “flashing” the driver with a computer screen. The FW3A will NOT have this functionality, but the firmware has code for it, because it is firmware that will work for more than just the FW3A. It’s really cool stuff. But maybe not as cool as a flashlight that can spy on people.
Is there a thread about this? I plan on doing something similar.
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Bingo, I was starting to think I was loosing my mind.
Yes, that should work well in black and white. I find it odd that people are having trouble understanding Anduril. I true believe anyone will have this mastered by the time they drain there first cell.
Thanks TK.
Requesting a second (already down for one), so I can get both emitter types.
I like the look but the only disappointing thing to me is the clip isn’t very deep carry. Hopefully there will be an alternative or aftermarket option.
OK I'm in for Two More +2
καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ κατέλαβεν
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I’m interested in one of each!
I’m up for grabbing a couple as well! My ‘ol E-12 is looking pretty tired these days.
Edit: Two of the LH351Ds, please and thank you.
In for 1
Interested, for one of each LED
Interested in one of these!
Andúril UI graphic
I tinkerd with the UI graphic a while ago with double lines for the green stuff.
I also did a few scaled down versions too because Toykeeper said she has no more space. A 95% and two in 90% and mailed TK.
Maybe use one of those? My experience with manufacturers is, regardless if the first run of documentations is full colour, there is always an idiot in the company who change them to black and white in order to save money. (And scales them down also)
Edit:
Ups,
I should read first the whole thread. TK posted it
Hmpf.
Easy, there is a svg file, throw that on your CNC mill
+ 1
The clip as is would look sleeker but I would prefer the functionality of a deep carry clip.
ToyKeeper marry me ?
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Already in for 1, please add 1 more for me. Celebrating being on the longest wait list of my life.
I take it you’re not on the Lantern list. That one will be 3yrs, 5wks from now.
Please put me down for 1 LH351D
What is this vision pin / “optic nerve” in the fw3a hwdef file?
RIP SPC Joey Riley, KIA 11/24/14. Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
It’s the hidden ‘seeing eye mode’ for the visually impared.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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@Toykeeper
It looks good!
It seems you redid your version or?
With your own character with no whitespace left and right, but only a few pixels wide to get smooth curves in tight radiuses?
Or why has a “=” a bend?
Everything I write here is only a suggestion, please choose only what you like.
In the later versions I have an additional line in the top left corner as a clue for the user.
Is it intentional that the double lines (text) goes into the arrowheads? Guess Yes.
(Otherwise you must lower the text under the path.)
And you have a uniform lenght of green line in the arrow heads. Do you use the heads as starting point for the char? Nice idea.
Hey, you can place a white snow flake as first char to have it the arrow head, so it is more distinguishable to the black lines
When printed small the double lines are also tough. One option is to up the char size or to use other chars.
Maybe ╳ U+2573 is a better option?
And the line for other actions can also blur when printed small. That is a normal inkscape line style of I remember correctly. A bit fatter would be good.
The text in Lockout is too low contrast, depending how they print. Please use a bright grey or white
I would also brighten up the dark lower part of the ramp box.
or lay under the arrow head a white shape so it has a fine white line. The same for the dashed floor line part which is in the box
The red background in the temp check bubble can print in grey. A white outline on the text keep it readable under every circumstance.
A few other line stiles I came up with
(I don’t know if all the Unicode characters show up in the browser)
Other options from Unicode Boxdrawing are:
(haven’t tested how bendy they are)
╩ U+2569 and ╦ U+2566 ╩╦╩╦
╬ U+256C ╬╬╬╬╬╬
╫ U+256B ╫╫╫╫╫╫
╳ U+2573 ╳╳╳╳╳╳
╳ U+2573 and space ╳╳ ╳╳ ╳╳ ╳╳
╳╳╳ ╳╳╳ ╳╳╳
Other options from Blockelements are:
▚ U+259A ▚▚▚▚▚▚▚▚
▁ U+2581 and ▔ U+2594 ▔▁▔▁▔▁▔▁
Other misc stuff
▰ U+25B0 and ▱ U+25B1 ▰▱▰▱▰
▰▰▰▱▰▰▰▱▰▰▰▱▰▰▰▱
▰ ▰ ▰ ▱ ▰ ▰ ▰ ▱ ▰ ▰ ▰ ▱
▰▱▱▱▰▱▱▱▰▱▱▱▰
• • • • • • • • • Bullets and Space
══☠═══☠═══☠══ Dangerline
══☃══☃══☃ ➡ Winterline
❆ U+2746 ❆❆❆❆❆❆❆ Line of snow (maybe illigal in some countries)
…
…
Have you noticed the reduced versions I mailed? You never talked back:
I also did a few scaled down versions too because you said you have no more space. A 95% and two in 90% and mailed it.
My experience with manufacturers is, regardless if the first run of documentations is full colour, there is always an idiot in the company who change them later to black and white in order to save money. (And scales them down also)
On the Fireflies E07 thread
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1438717#comment-1438717
is an example of the version with the most white space
Why is everyone always fixing at stuff that ain’t broke?
Joe, the chart you linked there has no thermal or beacon configuration instructions. Just saying. Edit: Ah, found them in the box, nevermind… going to make coffee now… (the bad memory thing, resist change, get confused if everything isn’t in it’s spot… been doing Anduril too long already)
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To whom? I’ve done a few weddings before, but I hope you don’t expect anything traditional or serious. It’s more fun to do the marriage scene from The Princess Bride, or some other silliness.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that we are definitely, absolutely, unequivocally not using the FW3A to spy on anyone. Only crazy people would think that.
Now, back on topic…
I generally like deep-carry clips too, but I find this one is still pretty good. I think it’s my favorite non-deep-carry clip so far.
Yeah, I did. Flowing unicode characters along the curve was a really clever idea, but I went for something a bit simpler instead. It’s just a thin white line on top of the wider green line. I should probably move the arrow heads up to a higher layer to avoid the white going into the arrow, but that was extra effort and it’s more visually distinct this way. Maybe I’ll do that later.
There was also the option of converting the path to a solid, and using strokes along the edges of the solid, but that has its own difficulties.
I may change some of these things too, depending on how it looks when printed.
Yes, I’ve just had a large backlog to catch up on.
I am new to collecting flashlights and to this forum. ToyKeeper, you are a kind, helpful and generous lady to share your brilliant work so that novices like me can get such enjoyment with the amazing technology in flashlights. Two years ago I would have never believed what is possible today. Keep up the good work.
Fwashwights. Fwashwights are what bwings us….together…on weddit. That bwinding emitter. That hotspot within the beam.
….
Have you an HDS with wotary control wing?
Why do I get the sense that it is watching my computer monitor?
I believe that he was asking what the vision pin and optic nerve actually were, the reason for either being included in the file or whatever else you could tell us about the two terms.
Domari Nolo “I Refuse to be Subjugated” (1st Pennsylvania Regiment Flag) https://www.1stcontinentalregiment.org/blank
(Flagguys.com):..and man o man did they ever refuse to be subjugated. These guys were everywhere. They were important in Washington’s siege of Boston. They stayed behind and were the last to leave after covering the main army’s dangerous nick of time retreat from Long Island. They crossed the Delaware with Washington. They were “..at Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, and every major skirmish, and battle all the way to Yorktown..” where they fought “the most important part of the siege” according to General Steuben. These guys saw action in every one of the original 13 colonies.
It’s actually talked about in this thread, somewhere way back ago. TK has come up with a way to program the driver using the main LED as a receiver and literally “flashing” the driver with a computer screen. The FW3A will NOT have this functionality, but the firmware has code for it, because it is firmware that will work for more than just the FW3A. It’s really cool stuff. But maybe not as cool as a flashlight that can spy on people.
The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
Is it like the Oveready Boss programing?
Wow that’s cool, I would love to read up on the idea if anyone’s got any links. I have a few driver projects going on now following the FW3A driver setup so maybe it’s something I could implement too in the future.
RIP SPC Joey Riley, KIA 11/24/14. Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
Is there a thread about this? I plan on doing something similar.
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