cabfrank wrote:

Hopefully.

hope·ful·ly

• 1. in a hopeful manner

hope·ful

• 1. feeling or inspiring optimism about a future event:

The price will be the last nail.

Don’t tell LT, but I’ll still buy at least one of these lights as long as they stay <$50.

Obviously $36 would be ideal, but who knows if they even know that was an expectation at this point.

You just told them.

If this light ends up at the same price as the D4 – let alone more expensive – I will have zero interest.

Come on ‘guys’, let’s not be so……
pes·si·mis·tic

• 1. tending to see the worst aspect of things or believe that the worst will happen

Let’s try to be….
op·ti·mis·tic

• 1. hopeful and confident about the future

instead.

……….

Don’t worry, be happy…..

Please don’t tell me what to be, it’s hard enough to be who I am as it is… With all the comercials, politicians, religious people telling me what and who to be.

Just a suggestion, you of course; are free to take it or leave it.

BurningPlayd0h wrote:

If this light ends up at the same price as the D4 – let alone more expensive – I will have zero interest.

You can get a D4 for $35 right now though…

I am just bored with side switches at this point. I’m personally willing to spend a little more for something different.

All this is just idle speculation until we hear from Lumintop or Neal or TK or whoever on the price. Heck, maybe the Easter Bunny knows.

Buzzy243 wrote:

BurningPlayd0h wrote:

If this light ends up at the same price as the D4 – let alone more expensive – I will have zero interest.

You can get a D4 for $35 right now though…

I am just bored with side switches at this point. I’m personally willing to spend a little more for something different.

All this is just idle speculation until we hear from Lumintop or Neal or TK or whoever on the price. Heck, maybe the Easter Bunny knows.

That’s my point exactly. The price has to be competitive with the D4 when compared against the same emitter options, especially since this has one less and the X-PL HIs are a significant portion of the cost of a D4 with them.

Buzzy243 wrote:

(snip) ……

All this is just idle speculation until we hear from Lumintop or Neal or TK or whoever on the price. Heck, maybe the Easter Bunny knows.

How did a different price even enter into this wonderful discussion about clip color & hole in clip??

dekozn wrote:

Please don’t tell me what to be, it’s hard enough to be who I am as it is… With all the commercials, politicians, religious people telling me what and who to be.

JasonWW wrote:

dekozn wrote:

Please don’t tell me what to be, it’s hard enough to be who I am as it is… With all the commercials, politicians, religious people telling me what and who to be.

I don’t expose myself to commercials, politicians or religious people. I feel so much better!

There are literally advertisements all over this site lol

cabfrank wrote:

You just told them.

Evidence so far is they don’t pay much direct attention to this thread.

Something that was said recently by someone on TLF who is in contact with Lumintop gave me the impression they did at one point in the past look at this thread, but suffered a debilitating eye-roll injury as a result.

Personally, I still don’t care about the color of the clip, as long as it is not something that is going to rust if whatever the coating is wears off, but the apparent protrusion of the clip ring from the body should be obvious as undesirable.

If that is final, I will still buy it, but be a bit disappointed at the need to sand down the outer diameter.

You’re probably right that they haven’t paid much attention to this thread. It gets hard sometimes for even BLF members to follow it everyday.
Hopefully, there are no glaring issues, or dealbreakers with the samples. Hopefully, the clip fit, and it all fit. Hopefully, production and sales will start soon. Hopefully.

iamlucky13 wrote:

cabfrank wrote:

You just told them.

Something that was said recently by someone on TLF who is in contact with Lumintop gave me the impression they did at one point in the past look at this thread, but suffered a debilitating eye-roll injury as a result.

I love it!!

Hopefully…. I love that word!!

It is so much better than ‘hopelessly’…

hopefully …

• adv.optimistically

Synonyms for hopefully …..

• confidently
• surely
• expectantly
• positively
• sanguinely
• trustfully
• trustingly
• with confidence
• with hope

Antonyms for hopefully ….

• doubtfully
• gloomily
• hopelessly

iamlucky13 wrote:

Evidence so far is they don’t pay much direct attention to this thread.

That’s probably a good thing. I worry a little about the mental condition of anyone who’s followed this 8,000 post “adventure”. (Myself included.)

I’m included too, but I’ve come this far, I can’t just stop now.

That said, there’s a lot to be gained by them having a regular on here provide them a direct weekly TLDR. This may already be happening, but it sounds like there’s pretty big lapses in communication.

While I prefer the original bare metal clip, having a painted black clip or one where the ring sticks out slightly from the light is a minor issue to me.

I think it’s silly when I see people posting they won’t buy the light because of it. But to each their own.

cabfrank wrote:

I’m included too, but I’ve come this far, I can’t just stop now.

oweban wrote:

That said, there’s a lot to be gained by them having a regular on here provide them a direct weekly TLDR. This may already be happening, but it sounds like there’s pretty big lapses in communication.

They should not be expected to answer question or even actively participate in discussions, only to post a brief update every couple of weeks.

But, since the team members of projects usually have to beg for info…. this is unlikely I guess. Unless possibly it is somehow part of the original agreement when a ‘collaboration’ is finalized. But even then it would be unenforceable.

Firelight2 wrote:

While I prefer the original bare metal clip, having a painted black clip or one where the ring sticks out slightly from the light is a minor issue to me.

I think it’s silly when I see people posting they won’t buy the light because of it. But to each their own.

Though “comical”, it is kinda sad too. Why do people feel the need to post that… just don’t buy.

But, I guess your right; “to each their own”.

teacher wrote:

oweban wrote:

That said, there’s a lot to be gained by them having a regular on here provide them a direct weekly TLDR. This may already be happening, but it sounds like there’s pretty big lapses in communication.

In all seriousness oweban, this is a good idea. I don’t think we can ‘expect’ it, but it would be nice if someone from the vendor/company would post every week or two with a brief update on what is happening. And ideally it would be the same person each time.

They should not be expected to answer question or even actively participate in discussions, only to post a brief update every couple of weeks.

But, since the team members of projects usually have to beg for info…. this is unlikely I guess. Unless possibly it is somehow part of the original agreement when a ‘collaboration’ is finalized. But even then it would be unenforceable.

Even if it’s someone from the forums (TK, tatasal, etc) that keeps up on it and gives the TLDR and relays feedback – the rep from Lumintop doesn’t need to actually read the thread nor post, just a bit of a once-a-week catch-up. I guess there’s lots of ways it could be done, but I guess we’ll just wait for the latest photos/thoughts, as I’m not going to be drawn into guessing what’s the most up-to-date.

Ah well, I can but dream.

teacher wrote:

dropman wrote:

I would not be surprised if……. (snip, perceived silliness deleted) ………..

Seriously?? .. .. What a silly post.

sure he is exaggerating, but it’s really not silly, it goes hand in hand with this sentiment:

Shadowcactus wrote:

I can’t figure out why Lumintop would be making so many of these boneheaded changes so late in the development. The changes to the clip are honestly just terrible looking and nonsensical. I also can’t figure out why there’s so many apologists bootlicking Lumintop in the thread.

it is definitely not fit, in fact it is fat

oweban wrote:

Even if it’s someone from the forums (TK, tatasal, etc) that keeps up on it and gives the TLDR and relays feedback – the rep from Lumintop doesn’t need to actually read the thread nor post, just a bit of a once-a-week catch-up.

But many of them are having to fight for updates, sometimes with very little or no result for their efforts. That has to be extremely frustrating for them, as well as the time they must waste for the effort. Then only to find something out by way of a FaceBook post someone quotes here on BLF.
That sux.

I was just thinking an update ever couple of weeks from “one” (the same) factory person would take some of the load from team members. And would probably ease the minds of many members too.

Of course any specific updates would still come from team members. But somehow they would be / should be given them in a timely manner. They should not have to fight & beg for answers or find things out from a third party. They should be kept informed.

All that I have written is probably just a pipe dream…. but in a perfect world, it would be nice.

JasonWW wrote:

Are you screwed?

Six ways from Sunday!

……

Bonham wrote:

Where are Luminotop’s comments … ?

It’d be really interesting to know that, no? If only we had a working line of communication with Lumintop…

That’s basically why this project wasn’t completed a year ago, and why there have been so many surprises — both welcome and not. For projects like this, BLF needs to talk directly to manufacturers… and that’s not how this project was set up.

Buzzy243 wrote:

I worry a little about the mental condition of anyone who’s followed this 8,000 post “adventure”. (Myself included.)

… and I get to read everything twice. Pbtbtbtbt.

I don’t have a mental condition though. I don’t know what you’re talking about. But could someone please do something about the bats?

cabfrank wrote:

I’ve come this far, I can’t just stop now.