Extra shipping to specific countries where there’s a high cost seems fair. I just wanted to make sure there’s not some sneaky fee being added to later orders.
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Right. And if IRRC if IRC it is far from “last minute”.
It has been known that some countries would require a bit of additional shipping cost for quite some time.
If people do not keep up…. maybe they get surprised.
I do not know what means IRRC but in the very first post its written:
“Pricing
Target $30 including shipping, manufacturer can decide own pricing afterwards.
Maybe $36 if XP-L HI emitters are used.
Not fixed yet!”
I do not want to make big deal for $3 just noticed the difference.
I wish Neal the best and to enjoy for that extra profit.
Hey… I don’t know what “IRRC” means either… it was a typo. .. My bad.
IIRC = If I remember correctly
if IRC = If I remember correctly
And quite possibly I did not remember correctly.
I know I read somewhere months ago that shipping to certain countries was extremely high and that even ‘free shipping’ to those countries would have to be subsidized by the buyer.
I honestly thought I remembered that was mentioned & discussed in this thread. But as I stated…. maybe I remembered wrong. But I know it was discussed somewhere & I shall try to find where that was.
IIRC this was brought on by the BLF GT when Lumintop lost their rear ends on shipping quite a few of those lights.
I honestly do not think Neal is trying to pull a fast one or make “extra profit”. That kinda makes him sound like a thief, And I for one DO NOT think Neal is a thief.
I think he is trying to cover legitimate cost so it does not come out of his pocket, as was rumored to have happened with part of the BLF GT’s.
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Is it completely out of place to suggest that if the idea of paying an unexpected $3 is that upsetting, maybe just don’t order the light? I’ve dropped any number of purchases at the “pay now” screen after I finally got to see the shipping cost, and didn’t like it. Usually that’s $8-$20 “surprise” charges (one place, $25 for a small UPS package from Arizona to North Carolina, when $10 is the most that could cost). $5, I might grumble. $2-3, unless it’s a $5 item, probably not.
And, yeah, “target price” is really not something to take as more than a rough estimate.
I've received a tracking number from Neal that shows "Item received" to a sorting center in China. I expected it to basically be a "label created" type of thing, and was very surprised. Last I heard, shipments wouldn't begin until May 8. Time to play the "wait and see" game.
I also just got a tracking number. But based on experience I wouldn’t be surprised or bent out of shape if it took a month to get to me.
As an aside I don’t really know why I bought the flashlight since I don’t really have a need for it. Although irritating my adult kids is certainly a fun thing to do
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9mm/40cal/45cal bullets and large/small pistol primers available for sale in San Francisco Bay area
Ordered 1 of my 2 in XPL 3D, hoping the SST-20 option is available soon to order my second, honestly I would almost prefer the branding on the second once so they’re easier to differentiate by sight.
Ordered 1 of my 2 in XPL 3D, hoping the SST-20 option is available soon to order my second, honestly I would almost prefer the branding on the second once so they’re easier to differentiate by sight.
Good idea! I kinda liked the bunny anyway. I wonder if that option would be available to us and still use the coupon code.?
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No worries. I was planning to explain the mechanism so people wouldn’t be expecting a second message, and by sheer coincidence you provided a perfect example.
In case it's not known here, Martin told me that Neal had a few 3D's on hand, so the shipping notices are legit, assuming all you that got a tracking # ordered 3D's.
people sharing codes hopefully grow purulent furuncles in the genital area…
I’m just quoting this as a reminder.
Dear reader, if you find yourself thinking about posting private group-buy codes in public, just remember… PURULENTGENITALFURUNCLES.
Maybe karma exists, maybe it doesn’t. But if genital furuncles are involved, is it really worth finding out?
SKY69 wrote:
Will we be PM when the sst-20 emitter is available to order?
No, there isn’t another round of PMs coming. The list doesn’t have data on who wants which emitter, and it’d be a little rude or spammy to send messages to everyone again. So it’s probably best to keep an eye on FW3A news, because SST-20 should be announced when it’s ready.
Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it’ll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.
The elliptical one is the best choice for biking. That’s what I’m using on my bike, anyway.
yanya wrote:
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I like saying your name. It’s a fun word.
zak.wilson wrote:
Our #1 rule is “Be excellent to each other.” … you can’t get around it on a technicality
I’m quoting this because that’s a great article.
SIGShooter wrote:
I don’t really know why I bought the flashlight since I don’t really have a need for it.
Most of us don’t really need it. To merely fill a need, we could go to a local shop for whatever cheap light they have. But there are plenty of other valid reasons to get one. I’m guessing the majority of us are here because we enjoy it, not because we actually need more lights.
However, that said… I use this particular light a lot. It gets more runtime than the entire rest of my collection, unless I count the Q8 I use as a bedside candle.
mitsuki08 wrote:
I really want to thank all who worked on this light. I know it’s not healthy but recently lights have been making me really happy more so than other things. So I hope everyone who worked on this feel the appreciation/thanks from the bottom of my heart. Sorry for being cheesy or over-dramatic.
Although few would admit it, that’s probably the reason why many people are here. Sometimes a light in the darkness is exactly what we need, even if it’s not strictly for the purposes of seeing at night. Because what we have here is a community, and it serves a lot of purposes which aren’t strictly about converting electrons into photons.
Dammit TK I thought you were a nice person. I just stayed up an extra half hour trying to work that out . I reckon I’ve got the answer but I’m not about to try and type it out. I took pictures of my scribbles though. I came up with 4 scenarios.
Just four?
As a hint, there are actually 24 or 26 scenarios, depending on which version of the puzzle is attempted. But it may be possible to reduce it to 12 or 13 scenarios and still fill the requirements, which Random Dan may have done.
Random Dan wrote:
I think I removed all the symmetric cases, although it still feels like I’m missing something.
I’ll run this through my test script to check it. Even if the script reports failed cases, it looks pretty close. I expect there should be at least one solution which can identify the fake but can’t determine whether it’s lighter or heavier… but at a glance, I’m not totally sure if you’ve found such a thing or not.
[quote=ToyKeeper
I’ll run this through my test script to check it. Even if the script reports failed cases, it looks pretty close. I expect there should be at least one solution which can identify the fake but can’t determine whether it’s lighter or heavier… but at a glance, I’m not totally sure if you’ve found such a thing or not.
I thought the specification said we only needed to identify the coin, not necessarily determine light or heavy. The only stone which I could identify as the misfit but not classify as light or heavy would be 13 since I never weighed it. I could fix that and then I’d need to use the dummy weight.
Dammit TK I thought you were a nice person. I just stayed up an extra half hour trying to work that out . I reckon I’ve got the answer but I’m not about to try and type it out. I took pictures of my scribbles though. I came up with 4 scenarios.
Just four?
As a hint, there are actually 24 or 26 scenarios, depending on which version of the puzzle is attempted. But it may be possible to reduce it to 12 or 13 scenarios and still fill the requirements, which Random Dan may have done.
Yeh, just 4 and I was working to 12 diamonds. After seeing Dan’s first 2 answers I went back and checked mine again and of course discovered it was flawed. I was only half heartedly thinking about it then. Luckily at that point I got save… err … I mean distracted by the family The more I look at it the more I come to the conclusion it’s out of my league
I really want to thank all who worked on this light. I know it’s not healthy but recently lights have been making me really happy more so than other things. So I hope everyone who worked on this feel the appreciation/thanks from the bottom of my heart. Sorry for being cheesy or over-dramatic.
Although few would admit it, that’s probably the reason why many people are here. Sometimes a light in the darkness is exactly what we need, even if it’s not strictly for the purposes of seeing at night. Because what we have here is a community, and it serves a lot of purposes which aren’t strictly about converting electrons into photons.
Well put, I signed up here for GB deal but I enjoy some of the banter that goes on around here, and I’ve learned a thing or two. The collaborative nature of the projects and the friendly environment is why I keep coming back. You and all those involved who keep BLF what is right now is very much appreciated.
I remember this puzzle from 40 years or so ago. It’s been decades since I did it but I seem to recall coming up with 2 different solutions to it. Then again I could be wrong there
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9mm/40cal/45cal bullets and large/small pistol primers available for sale in San Francisco Bay area
4 on each side of scale. If balanced then the 4 left has the odd diamond and those 8 are neutrals. Then 3 neutrals and three of the 4 left are weighed. If balanced the one remaining is the odd one. If unbalanced (you will now know if its light or heavy)take two neutrals and one of the 3 left on each side of the scale. If balanced the remaining one is it. Unbalanced the one that is heavier or lighter is the one.
If the scale on the first weigh is unbalanced the remaining 4 are your neutrals. Then I have no clue how to find the odd one in two more weighings.
Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?
Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?
I’m pretty sure that ‘exact number’ is unknown to anyone here on BLF & will likely remain that way.
But this should give some idea. It was stated that Neal had ‘some’ on hand (IIRC) & LT would be delivering 200 more that would be shipped out after the Holiday. Besides that, unknown.
I’ll try & find that post about “some onhand & 200 more”. I’ll post it when I do.
Seems like a small number then. Does that mean good news for the firmware bug? That it’s limited to “some on hand and 200 more”? Or is there a huge stockpile of drivers, all with the FW bug and the exact lot of lights each of ours come from won’t matter in that regard, they’ll all be effected?
Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?
I’m pretty sure that is unknown to anyone here on BLF & will likely remain that way.
It was stated that Neal had ‘some’ on hand (IIRC) & LT would be delivering 200 more that would be shipped out after the Holiday. Besides that, unknown.
I’ll try & find that post about “some onhand & 200 more”. I’ll post it when I do.
about 400pcs 3D version were shipped
another 300pcs 3D will ship before May 5th
and others 7A and 3D should ship from 8th.
first batch 7A 330pcs nearly sold out,so it will be better to choose the 3D version or wait for the SST20 version
Seems like a small number then. Does that mean good news for the firmware bug? That it’s limited to “some on hand and 200 more”? Or is there a huge stockpile of drivers, all with the FW bug and the exact lot of lights each of ours come from won’t matter in that regard, they’ll all be effected?
/\ I have no idea. See my above edit in my post. That is all I know.
Edit: Neal has answered the question.
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Extra shipping to specific countries where there’s a high cost seems fair. I just wanted to make sure there’s not some sneaky fee being added to later orders.
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And quite possibly I did not remember correctly.
I know I read somewhere months ago that shipping to certain countries was extremely high and that even ‘free shipping’ to those countries would have to be subsidized by the buyer.
I honestly thought I remembered that was mentioned & discussed in this thread. But as I stated…. maybe I remembered wrong. But I know it was discussed somewhere & I shall try to find where that was.
IIRC this was brought on by the BLF GT when Lumintop lost their rear ends on shipping quite a few of those lights.
I honestly do not think Neal is trying to pull a fast one or make “extra profit”. That kinda makes him sound like a thief, And I for one DO NOT think Neal is a thief.
I think he is trying to cover legitimate cost so it does not come out of his pocket, as was rumored to have happened with part of the BLF GT’s.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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Is it completely out of place to suggest that if the idea of paying an unexpected $3 is that upsetting, maybe just don’t order the light? I’ve dropped any number of purchases at the “pay now” screen after I finally got to see the shipping cost, and didn’t like it. Usually that’s $8-$20 “surprise” charges (one place, $25 for a small UPS package from Arizona to North Carolina, when $10 is the most that could cost). $5, I might grumble. $2-3, unless it’s a $5 item, probably not.
And, yeah, “target price” is really not something to take as more than a rough estimate.
After all this time, I don’t think we should sweat the small-change sh*t.
Keep your nose in the wind and your eyes along the skyline.
Del Gue
I've received a tracking number from Neal that shows "Item received" to a sorting center in China. I expected it to basically be a "label created" type of thing, and was very surprised. Last I heard, shipments wouldn't begin until May 8. Time to play the "wait and see" game.
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Boruit D10 w/ Quadrupel Fet+1/Anduril | EagTac D25C Ti | DQG Slim AA Ti | Jaxman E3 | UF-T1 by CRX | Olight S15 Ti | Nitecore EX11.2
L6 XHP70.2 P2 4000K FET+7135 | Jaxman M8 | MF02 | Jaxman Z1 CULNM1.TG | Blue S2+ w/ ML Special | Thrunite T10Tv2
Supfire M6 3xXHP50.2, Sofirn C8F, Unfinished: Sofirn SP70, IYP07/Tool AAA hot-rods, Jetbeam E3S
Others: Nitecore EC23 | Nebo Twyst | Streamlight ProTac 1AA | TerraLux LightStar 100
I also just got a tracking number. But based on experience I wouldn’t be surprised or bent out of shape if it took a month to get to me.
As an aside I don’t really know why I bought the flashlight since I don’t really have a need for it. Although irritating my adult kids is certainly a fun thing to do
9mm/40cal/45cal bullets and large/small pistol primers available for sale in San Francisco Bay area
Just placed my order. Thank you to those who worked on this project and made it a reality!
Ordered 1 of my 2 in XPL 3D, hoping the SST-20 option is available soon to order my second, honestly I would almost prefer the branding on the second once so they’re easier to differentiate by sight.
Good idea! I kinda liked the bunny anyway. I wonder if that option would be available to us and still use the coupon code.?
Keep your nose in the wind and your eyes along the skyline.
Del Gue
No worries. I was planning to explain the mechanism so people wouldn’t be expecting a second message, and by sheer coincidence you provided a perfect example.
In case it's not known here, Martin told me that Neal had a few 3D's on hand, so the shipping notices are legit, assuming all you that got a tracking # ordered 3D's.
FB is good for something, sometimes...
I only ordered 1 of my 2 on the list, waiting on other emitter options. Suspect others did the same.
Me too.
Keep your nose in the wind and your eyes along the skyline.
Del Gue
I’m just quoting this as a reminder.
Dear reader, if you find yourself thinking about posting private group-buy codes in public, just remember… PURULENT GENITAL FURUNCLES.
Maybe karma exists, maybe it doesn’t. But if genital furuncles are involved, is it really worth finding out?
No, there isn’t another round of PMs coming. The list doesn’t have data on who wants which emitter, and it’d be a little rude or spammy to send messages to everyone again. So it’s probably best to keep an eye on FW3A news, because SST-20 should be announced when it’s ready.
Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it’ll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.
The elliptical one is the best choice for biking. That’s what I’m using on my bike, anyway.
I like saying your name. It’s a fun word.
I’m quoting this because that’s a great article.
Most of us don’t really need it. To merely fill a need, we could go to a local shop for whatever cheap light they have. But there are plenty of other valid reasons to get one. I’m guessing the majority of us are here because we enjoy it, not because we actually need more lights.
However, that said… I use this particular light a lot. It gets more runtime than the entire rest of my collection, unless I count the Q8 I use as a bedside candle.
Although few would admit it, that’s probably the reason why many people are here. Sometimes a light in the darkness is exactly what we need, even if it’s not strictly for the purposes of seeing at night. Because what we have here is a community, and it serves a lot of purposes which aren’t strictly about converting electrons into photons.
Got my shipping notice. Kinda surprised since I’m all the way down at 1286 on the original listed I expected to be in a later batch.
I’m impressed with how quickly it all came together in the end!
Just four?
As a hint, there are actually 24 or 26 scenarios, depending on which version of the puzzle is attempted. But it may be possible to reduce it to 12 or 13 scenarios and still fill the requirements, which Random Dan may have done.
I’ll run this through my test script to check it. Even if the script reports failed cases, it looks pretty close. I expect there should be at least one solution which can identify the fake but can’t determine whether it’s lighter or heavier… but at a glance, I’m not totally sure if you’ve found such a thing or not.
I thought the specification said we only needed to identify the coin, not necessarily determine light or heavy. The only stone which I could identify as the misfit but not classify as light or heavy would be 13 since I never weighed it. I could fix that and then I’d need to use the dummy weight.
Third time’s the charm.
-Scale 1———Scale 2———Aside
1,2,3,5,D——-4,6,7,8,11——-9,10,12,13
1,2,4,5,6——-3,9,10,13,D——-7,8,11,12
1,3,4,8,10——2,7,9,12,D——-5,6,11,13
1 LLL
2 LLR
3 LRL
4 RLL
5 LLB
6 RLB
7 RBR
8 RBL
9 BRR
10 BRL
11 RBB
12 BBR
13 BRB
Yeh, just 4 and I was working to 12 diamonds. After seeing Dan’s first 2 answers I went back and checked mine again and of course discovered it was flawed. I was only half heartedly thinking about it then. Luckily at that point I got save… err … I mean distracted by the family
Well put, I signed up here for GB deal but I enjoy some of the banter that goes on around here, and I’ve learned a thing or two. The collaborative nature of the projects and the friendly environment is why I keep coming back. You and all those involved who keep BLF what is right now is very much appreciated.
I remember this puzzle from 40 years or so ago. It’s been decades since I did it but I seem to recall coming up with 2 different solutions to it. Then again I could be wrong there
9mm/40cal/45cal bullets and large/small pistol primers available for sale in San Francisco Bay area
4 on each side of scale. If balanced then the 4 left has the odd diamond and those 8 are neutrals. Then 3 neutrals and three of the 4 left are weighed. If balanced the one remaining is the odd one. If unbalanced (you will now know if its light or heavy)take two neutrals and one of the 3 left on each side of the scale. If balanced the remaining one is it. Unbalanced the one that is heavier or lighter is the one.
If the scale on the first weigh is unbalanced the remaining 4 are your neutrals. Then I have no clue how to find the odd one in two more weighings.
From the chart, FD2 could be a great tint. Yay! Can’t wait to see it in person.
I agree, FD2 looks like it’ll be a great tint.
Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?
But this should give some idea. It was stated that Neal had ‘some’ on hand (IIRC) & LT would be delivering 200 more that would be shipped out after the Holiday. Besides that, unknown.
I’ll try & find that post about “some onhand & 200 more”. I’ll post it when I do.
Edit:
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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Ordered 1! Thank you.
Seems like a small number then. Does that mean good news for the firmware bug? That it’s limited to “some on hand and 200 more”? Or is there a huge stockpile of drivers, all with the FW bug and the exact lot of lights each of ours come from won’t matter in that regard, they’ll all be effected?
about 400pcs 3D version were shipped
another 300pcs 3D will ship before May 5th
and others 7A and 3D should ship from 8th.
first batch 7A 330pcs nearly sold out,so it will be better to choose the 3D version or wait for the SST20 version
/\ I have no idea. See my above edit in my post. That is all I know.
Edit: Neal has answered the question.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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