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I’m still wondering why the S41 219b is brighter then the S42 219c…
As far as i understand it should be the opposite?

Can someone offer an explanation?

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can anyone compare S42 to BLF A6 in term of brightness?

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rizky_p wrote:
can anyone compare S42 to BLF A6 in term of brightness?

I just did a quick ceiling bounce test between a BLF A6 XPL 3D w Samsung 30Q vs Astrolux S42 Nichia 219c w Aspire 18350.
270 vs 210 says my luxmeter.

But that’s not a fair test – 18650 vs 18350…

I’ll try again with 18650 configuration for both… if i manage to get the S42 to work that way.

PS: after fumbling a bit to get the S42 to work with a 18650 (i had do reverse the tube…)
290 vs 220.

And while i was at it, i compared a Nichia 219b S41 with a BLF A6 3D in 18650 configuration and they come out about the same brightness.

Whichever way you take it, the S42 is dimmer then the S41 (and BLF A6), and i’m still waiting for an explanation… This light was supposed to be brighter right? or am i really confused?

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Despite the name of my app, actually bouncing a light off the ceiling isn’t an accurate way to measure output. The reading will be more proportional to intensity than total output, so a light with a reflector will almost always beat a light with a small quad-TIR.

Ceilingbounce – flashlight testing and runtime graphs for Android

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zak.wilson wrote:
Despite the name of my app, actually bouncing a light off the ceiling isn’t an accurate way to measure output. The reading will be more proportional to intensity than total output, so a light with a reflector will almost always beat a light with a small quad-TIR.

How about the S42 Nichia 219c comes out more then 20% dimmer then the S41 219b?
Two quad tir right? I don’t need a luxmeter to tell the difference.

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Thank you much appreciated. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Man thankfully i didn’t punch that order button. That is underwhelming.

patmurris wrote:
rizky_p wrote:
can anyone compare S42 to BLF A6 in term of brightness?

I just did a quick ceiling bounce test between a BLF A6 XPL 3D w Samsung 30Q vs Astrolux S42 Nichia 219c w Aspire 18350.
270 vs 210 says my luxmeter.

But that’s not a fair test – 18650 vs 18350…

I’ll try again with 18650 configuration for both… if i manage to get the S42 to work that way.

PS: after fumbling a bit to get the S42 to work with a 18650 (i had do reverse the tube…)
290 vs 220.

And while i was at it, i compared a Nichia 219b S41 with a BLF A6 3D in 18650 configuration and they come out about the same brightness.

Whichever way you take it, the S42 is dimmer then the S41 (and BLF A6), and i’m still waiting for an explanation… This light was supposed to be brighter right? or am i really confused?

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You don’t want the S42 as bright as the S41, it is already too hot to touch after 10 seconds, and the switch is at its hottest spot.

The S41 has a chunk of copper to soak up the first 30 seconds of heat, I estimate the S42 to have less than one-third of that soaking material. Once that copper of the S41 is heated up, the difference in shedding heat between S41 and S42 will be minimal, the S41 will get as hot but with a 20 seconds delay which can be very useful.

Perhaps a good way to tame the S42 to managable level is swapping the leds to higher voltage ones, like the good old Nichia 219A, with the perfect tint as a bonus Smile

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S42 tube and usb cover arrived and both fit and work.

I kind of chingered my rubber cover, it was a little hard getting that little rubber peg in the hole.
But its holding ok.

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Just got a few 30Q’s this week and dropped them in my A6 and the S42. The A6 is noticeably brighter but here’s a completely nonscientific anecdote. When I take out the trash (always after dark due to flashaholism) the flood lights at the side of the house always come on and ruin the fun. Last night I used the S42 with the fully charged 30Q and the floods didn’t activate, I was practically giggling not to mention the heat from the head of the light was just short of too much by the time I made it back to the door. Since I was never going to use the short tube anyway my only remaining complaint is the cruddy usb cover. We’ll see how that works out when it arrives…

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chooma wrote:
S42 tube and usb cover arrived and both fit and work.

I kind of chingered my rubber cover, it was a little hard getting that little rubber peg in the hole.
But its holding ok.

Any tips in installing the usb cover? Just received mine today and having a heck of a time getting the “nipple” to fit into the hole. I have even tried some lube on the nipple.

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I never got it all the way in because it started tearing from trying to force it in with the tips of needle nose.
Im just goung to leave it, its already all jacked up. My bad.

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chooma wrote:
S42 tube and usb cover arrived and both fit and work.

I kind of chingered my rubber cover, it was a little hard getting that little rubber peg in the hole.
But its holding ok.

Any tips in installing the usb cover? Just received mine today and having a heck of a time getting the “nipple” to fit into the hole. I have even tried some lube on the nipple.

Fingers alone would not work for me. I used a plastic dental pick, which is somewhat flat and flexible, to work around the edges. It was straight and eventually formed a 45 degree bend which helped. For a final flush finish, it needed a center push from above with a ball point pen for a fit and finish look.

I tried a wooden tooth pick at first, but was to sharp and stiff and only punctured the rubber nipple. It would have eventually chewed it up, making it unusable.

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I got my “correct” short tube today and tried it with the 18350 Aspire batteries that I got(5) just for this light. It DOESNT work!! Maybe it is the batteries? I tried the tube both ways, no luck. When I ordered the S42 I got a 18650 tube for it and that works okay but I wanted a 18350 light. Anyone else having trouble with the “new improved” 18350 tube……..If not, Im about done fooling with this and may still ask for a refund just on principle.

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Does your switch light up at all, prior to turning it on?
Got mine today also, works ok…putting in the rubber port cover is another story.

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Does your switch light up at all, prior to turning it on?

Nope, not with the new tube. Yes with the 18650…… I havent tried making a paper clip spacer yet.

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Pretty much having the same troubles here – both on extraction and replacement.

Tried showing a plastic dental pick around the original nipple, hoping to release the retaining lip and remove it whole. No such luck – the rubber is so fragile that it just snapped off leaving the original tip still inside the flashlight.

Then I tried various tools (including those mentioned here) to firmly seat the new nipple in the hole. It goes about 80% in, and then stops. Firm pressure from above with pen tips, etc. doesn’t seem to matter. I’m wondering if the remnants of the original nipple are occupying some space inside which is preventing the new one from going all the way down. Kinda regret not probing the hole with something stiff first, to be sure the required length of the bore hole was clear.

Whatever you do, prepare for the rubber to look a little ragged when you’re done. It does not stand up well to manipulation.

The new cover is attached firmly enough that I don’t think it will work itself free; so I’m probably going to leave it as is rather than risk shredding the cheap rubber. Having the SKU for the part I might just order another one if I buy from BG again in the near future.

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Coscar wrote:
I got my “correct” short tube today and tried it with the 18350 Aspire batteries that I got(5) just for this light. It DOESNT work!! Maybe it is the batteries? I tried the tube both ways, no luck. When I ordered the S42 I got a 18650 tube for it and that works okay but I wanted a 18350 light. Anyone else having trouble with the “new improved” 18350 tube……..If not, Im about done fooling with this and may still ask for a refund just on principle.

I have 5 aspire cells and they all work fine, rubber bit went in with bit of silicone spray and a prod from a flat head screwdriver, have you read the instructions? you may be in lockout mode, randomly pressing the on off switch without reading first may lead you to think its not working, did with me for a minute or two, big magnifying glass required for the small print.

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Think I prefer it with 18650 lg hg2, gets very hot in 30 seconds on turbo, keeps your fingers away from the hot end

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Got the new 18350 tube today. Does work with Aspire and Enercig unprotected cells, but I have to screw in the body and tailcap as hard as I can. Dented the Enercig a bit in the process.

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maukka wrote:
Got the new 18350 tube today. Does work with Aspire and Enercig unprotected cells, but I have to screw in the body and tailcap as hard as I can. Dented the Enercig a bit in the process.

I have the same cells but still haven’t received the replacement parts.
From the above comments, it would seem that even the ‘extended’ tube is a tad on the short side… A thin copper (or paper clip) ring inside the tail cap may still be helpful.

Do the people at Astrolux have a number of 18350 cells to try out before going into production? Do they even try? You have to wonder… Facepalm

I have a few Astrolux lights and i like them all.
This S42 thing seems to come from another bunch… Kinda odd.

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What else does this battery tube fit? I recall seeing a bigger, c8ish sized host using an Astrolux 18350 battery tube on it

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would like to compare it with emisar…producer announced much more lumens…so what is brighter?s41or s42?

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S41 by quite a bit it seems

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We compared the s41 with the aspire 18350 to the s42 xpg 3 with 18650 lg hg2, s42 got hot really quick, s42 had a brighter overall spill/spread, s41 had a brighter hot spot.

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I received my repair parts yesterday. Thanks to the posted troubles others have had installing the usb cover I had some time to think about how I would tackle the job. I ended up selecting a pick I’ve used to extract broken keys from locks and for some gunsmithing tasks. It’s like a really thick dental pick but with a slightly “S” shape curve instead of the usual flat “C”. I wouldn’t call it an easy job since I was trying not to damage the cover but it went in without damage after a few minutes. I’m going to carry it at work for a few days this week just to see how well the cover holds. The UI will keep me from carrying it more than a few days though. I ended up in strobe mode by accident a few times the last time I tried to use it at work and that just won’t do.

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Got my parts. I can get the breathing light (whatever that is) bit nothing else with an Efest button 18350 or a 16340. Plug it in, I get a blinking green light. Nothing else.

What am I doing wrong?

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Just a question.
Anyone know what optics is used in the s41/42?

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scrumpypaul wrote:
Got my parts. I can get the breathing light (whatever that is) bit nothing else with an Efest button 18350 or a 16340. Plug it in, I get a blinking green light. Nothing else.

What am I doing wrong?

The breathing light is fading on and off.
That’s the normal mode when not locked out and when not charging.

When charging the light blinks green or red.
red when below 50%, above green blinking. It turns constantly green when it’s fully charged.

Mine has doggy connector. I am nearly done with that light

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joechina wrote:
scrumpypaul wrote:
Got my parts. I can get the breathing light (whatever that is) bit nothing else with an Efest button 18350 or a 16340. Plug it in, I get a blinking green light. Nothing else.

What am I doing wrong?

The breathing light is fading on and off.
That’s the normal mode when not locked out and when not charging.

When charging the light blinks green or red.
red when below 50%, above green blinking. It turns constantly green when it’s fully charged.

Mine has doggy connector. I am nearly done with that light

Yeah, so I get the breathing light.

I got the blinking green when charging, solid green when charged.

But nothing after that.

I don’t have the time or the skills to try to locate and rectify a fault. Is it worth trying the paperclip coil? I can’t see what that would achieve, since power is reaching the head to turn the breathing light on?

I’m no torch enthusiast in the sense of understanding and tinkering with the magic that goes into making these things work – I’m just an enthusiast in the sense that I like them.

I’m not at all enthusiastic about this utter abortion of a torch.

Astrolux have not covered themselves in glory with this one.

Unless anyone has any suggestions I think I’ll be returning it or going for a PP dispute.

Regards,

SP

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HighCaliber wrote:
chooma wrote:
S42 tube and usb cover arrived and both fit and work.

I kind of chingered my rubber cover, it was a little hard getting that little rubber peg in the hole.
But its holding ok.

Any tips in installing the usb cover? Just received mine today and having a heck of a time getting the “nipple” to fit into the hole. I have even tried some lube on the nipple.


I think you’re supposed to pull it from the inside.
So you stick the end through the hole and then pull the rest through from the inside with tweezers.
Because when you pull it it stretches and gets a little thinner.

Greetings from France.

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