Review: Manker E02. 1xAAA - XPG3 - L shapped

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I think you will receive in a week.

thanks for the quick response Thumbs Up

nearly three and a half weeks have come and gone, still no light . . . .

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nice review,

waiting on the 14500/AA version.

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I ordered the Manker EO2, black, XPG3, from HKEquipment today. Got an 8% discount from Martin’s code, and Paypal was giving $5 off any purchase of $15 or more for 2 days. So I got it for $13.35 Good deal I think. Sounds like a nice lil light, brighter than any other AAA on alkaline I believe.

hoo-yah!

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saypat wrote:
I ordered the Manker EO2, black, XPG3, from HKEquipment today. Got an 8% discount from Martin’s code, and Paypal was giving $5 off any purchase of $15 or more for 2 days. So I got it for $13.35 Good deal I think. Sounds like a nice lil light, brighter than any other AAA on alkaline I believe.

hoo-yah!


I guess the paypal $5 off is not active anymore? At least that did not work for me today. Too bad, I would have bought a 2nd for that price. Actually still waiting for my first though. At least it is in country finally.

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Yes, good for the 10th and 11th:

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thanks for the PM and posting here. I did make a $100 paypal purchase earlier today and did not get the $5 discount, so I am thinking I would not get it here either. I checked my paypal wallet and did not see any notice for this discount. My wife gets paypal correspondence,and maybe my 2 days came and went already, not sure. No worries, as I certainly don’t need another one yet . . .

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this is all that was on the ad that I have not already posted:

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sorry for derailing the thread Trevi….. just trying to help a fellow flashaholic save a dime Smile I’ll keep it in a PM next time.

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Trevi_lux wrote:
Tints, Manker E02 nichia Vs Manker E02 XP-G3:


very helpful!
looks like the E02 is about 4500k

very impressive that it runs regulated at 200lm, more than once, and without getting too hot to hold for 3 minutes.
I recently got a 18350 light with a 3minute turbo, but after 1 minute, its too hot to hold. (1200 lumen turbo on Mecarmy PT16)

Trevi_lux wrote:
Here my values for the nichia 219 version, and comparison with the XP-G3:

also super helpful, thank you!
I am learning that the Nichia brightness reduction is not a consistent percentage, turbo and high drop 16% but low drops over 50%.

in any case the fact that moonlight can be adjusted from 0 to 0.5 w a Nichia is great!

what a great mode selection!
hmmm, my buy it now button is itching Smile

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jon_slider wrote:

hmmm, my buy it now button is itching Smile

I know you would have it already if they offered it in copper Big Smile
Even so, it would fit well in your collection. How many other red lights do you have? Wink

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Wow, quite a unique combination:
nice tint, high CRI (Nichia 219C), very high output with standard AAA cell, multi-mode, moonlight, can be used as headlamp, magnet, other colors than black !

Very nice ! Looks like I need to put this on my wishlist… Smile

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Received this today.

I have to say… I think this is one of my nicest AAA-lights ever especially for the price.

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“headlamp form” & clip & magnet
NO PWM!!
Nichia… <3
Decent Power for size YET low-enough moonlight mode for them runtimes
Price is OK for the quality I would say

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Can´t really think any other, than some opinions may vary about mode spacing but I´m OK with them.

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Rec Decent Power for size YET low-enough moonlight mode for them runtimes

The first (moonlight) low mode is programmable you know that right? I thought the lowest programmable moonlight mode was a hardly visible super low…

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CheapThrills wrote:
Received this today.


NO PWM!!


congrats!

some of the most Wavy Output Ive ever seen on a chart: (pic is a link)

"Neil_Tennen" wrote:

Even though the light is constant current w NoPWM, it is NOT constant brightness.

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Something just dawned on me.
If we could track our own retina’s, they would probably not have a smooth line.
We have PWM !!

If we didn’t have built in dithering, imagine how crappy a movie would look?
Later,
Dithering Keith

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain

After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards

“You’ll develop like a herd mentality,”
“It’s gonna be herd-developed and that’s gonna happen.”

Yep it already happened

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Something just dawned on me.
If we could track our own retina’s, they would probably not have a smooth line.
We have PWM !!

If we didn’t have built in dithering, imagine how crappy a movie would look?
Later,
Dithering Keith

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain

After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards

“You’ll develop like a herd mentality,”
“It’s gonna be herd-developed and that’s gonna happen.”

Yep it already happened

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in the reality…y our view can not distinguish the difference between 255 lumens and 260 lumens for example … to say something, it’s the same as a flat line.

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Trevi_lux wrote:
in the reality…y our view can not distinguish the difference between 255 lumens and 260 lumens for example … to say something, it’s the same as a flat line.

yes, I know we can’t see the difference between 200 and 260 either, but my battery can.

so yes, you can always tell yourself that what you can’t see without a test instrument does not matter, to you.

I otoh, want to know what is actually happening, so Im just sharing the unstable “constant” current regulation output that shows in the chart.

it seems every time I bring up something about the way a light works, people jump in to mention that it does not matter because they can’t notice..

I think that misses the point

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In this graph we are not talking about difference 200 and 260….. we are talking about difference around 10 lumens… Is good comment, but I also comment my point of view. (sorry for disturb you comment Wink )

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Trevi, I respect your review efforts. Did you get the light for free?

fwiw, Not all lights that use Constant Current, have constant brightness, here is another example of a light with a wavy output, the Eagletac (uses Constant Current that does not produce constant brightness) in this chart, and also the SRT9 has wavy lines:(more info

_UPz wrote:

Vendors have started sidestepping PWM by using Constant Current. But the brightness is not necessarily constant. Wavy lines are not straight lines:-)

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hIKARInoob wrote:
CheapThrills wrote:
Rec Decent Power for size YET low-enough moonlight mode for them runtimes

The first (moonlight) low mode is programmable you know that right? I thought the lowest programmable moonlight mode was a hardly visible super low…

Yes, that is also a great thing added.

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jon_slider wrote:
CheapThrills wrote:
Received this today.


NO PWM!!


congrats!

some of the most Wavy Output Ive ever seen on a chart: (pic is a link)

"Neil_Tennen" wrote:

Even though the light is constant current w NoPWM, it is NOT constant brightness.

Looks like not constant brightness but that I cannot notice very easily but PWM is very bad factor for me for some reason Smile

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jon_slider wrote:
Trevi, I respect your review efforts. Did you get the light for free?

I am reading your comments in past days, seems your are very interested or have a problem with people that have free units…. You have seen my review. You have seen my grahps, some beams,…. are really data, not influence that sample are free or paid.
In any case, if you read enough…. you can see the thread opened here in BLF by Manker guys requestin people for review this and other lights, my name is in the list of people for send this sample, is open information for people that read the forum…..
And if you read more and more, you can see that red flaslight is a sample for review, and after that I bought at my cost a grey light with nichia for add data comparison graph nichia Vs Cree.

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Looks like not constant brightness but that I cannot notice very easily but PWM is very bad factor for me for some reason Smile

Very happy to learn with you that you cannot notice the ripples, even though you would notice PWM. I agree, ripples are not something that people notice. I do admit I would prefer to have flat regulated output, like on my Maratac and Tool.

Trevi_lux][quote=jon_slider wrote:
a problem with people that have free units

that red flaslight is a sample for review

no
I do not like that sometimes Vendors flood this board with multiple free samples.
Some “reviews” offer little more than copy paste of the manufacturer web page.

Im glad you got a free red light, thanks for sharing your conclusions, enjoy it!

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I’ve had nothing but problems with this light. The first (from Amazon) was DOA. Something in the tailcap was preventing a connection. The light worked fine if I shorted the tail, but would not work with the tailcap on. I tried cleaning it with no success. My 2nd Manker E02 (from HKEquipment) had the exact same problem.

If anyone has a suggestion what I should try next, please let me know. It seems that I am the only one having this problem.

Thanks,
Mike

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Two identical problems… That’s quite unlikely. First thing that comes to my mind is that the battery is too long so the tailcap won’t make contact with battery tube; like physical lockout. Seems unrealistic though; this kind of stuff happens with (protected) lithium ion cells where length varies… What battery are you using? Have you tried just popping an alkaline to see if it works?

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Two identical problems… That’s quite unlikely. First thing that comes to my mind is that the battery is too long so the tailcap won’t make contact with battery tube; like physical lockout. Seems unrealistic though; this kind of stuff happens with (protected) lithium ion cells where length varies… What battery are you using? Have you tried just popping an alkaline to see if it works?

You were right…an alkaline worked. But that still doesn’t solve my problem as none of my NiMH batteries (3 different types) do work. Maybe if I put a wire ring in the bottom of the tailcap that will bridge the gap.

Thanks,
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mikeyx wrote:
You were right…an alkaline worked. But that still doesn’t solve my problem as none of my NiMH batteries (3 different types) do work. Maybe if I put a wire ring in the bottom of the tailcap that will bridge the gap.

Thanks,
Mike

The ring might or would work if length is the problem, but that just seems so unlikely, especially because you tried three different types. Nevertheless, which 3 NiMH batteries did you use, and those batteries were not depleted?

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“in any case the fact that moonlight can be adjusted from 0 to 0.5 w a Nichia is great!” ….. You mean, you can’t adjust it, if you have a CW Cree??? Can anybody explain this?
I just ordered the E02H, and really wanted the Nichia, but they had none left; so had to buy the Cree version. Sad

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