Poll: Should We Do Away With Anonymous Rude Marks?

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And that rude mark is gone already…

Edit: I understand sometimes people may overreact or get upset over “little” things. I have a tendency to do it lately myself. But a PM or mention in the thread “Hey, that is kind of rude” may get an explanation OR I may agree and delete said post.
I found lately that little things dealing with over seas dealers here have been getting to me and I overreact myself. I tend to get p!$$y and rant. Probably larger things IRL venting out… My last rude mark was one, and I woke up, went and deleted it.
Improper description on my OL A01s was another… stupid NMM got to me, and contact them and their response is “it turns on in next mode everytime, so no problem no memory” p!$$3d me off, and probably overreacted a little.
We are all human, and sometimes people say stupid stuff, or sometimes its just taken out of context. Sometimes it is obvious that someone is being rude, and that is what the “RUDE” button is made for, IMO
I just feel stupid little things like this, said offended person should just speak up, let said person know why you felt that way and maybe explain it. Many cultures here, and things can be taken out of context very easy.

But, like I said, in the long run that rude mark does not effect me… just irks me a little to see it for something that was a praise

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I currently have 5 rude marks in my meter. Have no idea where they came from and I could really care less. But if I have offended someone, they should call me out in a thread or pm. I know someone was really pissed at me last week and called me a fascist prick. I think he is still marking me rude. Let people have their little rude button, if it makes someone feel better when they don’t have the nuts to call the person out, they can get the last word so to say with the rude button.
On the other hand why not have a “Like” button for folks to give good marks for something they like. Currently people insert a thumbs up emoji. This may have been suggested before, I didn’t read every post in the thread, so….

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You can find out which posts were marked by checking this link:

http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts

It may require some guesswork to figure out why posts were flagged, but at least it shows which posts they were.

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Yep… and sometimes guesswork does not even work. Facepalm
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I don’t presume to “run the place”
If SB wants a “Rude Points “ system, I’ll go with it.
The man does all the technical work to keep the sight going, and apparently
some policing as well.
Me Think Thou Doth Protest Too Much

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ToyKeeper wrote:
But really, western pricing is generally fair while Chinese pricing is practically a steal.

I’d say both are what market allows them to be.
Western companies can get away with way higher prices (and way higher costs) because western buyers trust them more. They sell fewer lights, but with higher price (and margins). In China competition is much fiercer and so margins are lower.
But this is not a steal, Chinese pricing still enables the sellers and the manufacturers to make profits.
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Hi everyone, I recognize that there are occasionally problems with misuse of the Rude! button, but such cases are the exceptions rather than the rule. At the moment, the amount of all BLF users that currently have rudeness points is 4. Of them, SubSailorVet is one, as he mentioned here, and his is indeed a case of abuse where another user is mad at him and is misusing the button on him. That user can be easily identified and will be dealt with accordingly by me. As for the other three users that have rudeness points, one of them just has 1 point for a post they made in this thread that was not at all rude, so I’m willing to chalk that up to a joke or somebody trying to prove their point that it hurts when you get a Rude! hit. (Please don’t do that.) The other two users that currently have a rudeness score made posts that were clearly and indisputably rude. So there is no wide-scale abuse of the button, and the system is of great use to me when moderating in order to determine whether posts that I believe to be rude are also perceived as such by other users.

There was also an interesting use of the Rude! button just the other day when a vendor accidentally posted a screenshot with customers’ personal information, probably while I was offline and unable to respond quickly. But that post was quickly and gracefully removed by other users that hit the Rude! button on it, which was definitely the appropriate action.

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SubSailorVet wrote:

Let people have their little rude button, if it makes someone feel better when they don’t have the nuts to call the person out, they can get the last word so to say with the rude button.

I think it's rude to belittle other BLF members like this.  ;)

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I think its rude for any of us to post in a thread about rude people wanting to take away a rude button, and rude people using the rude button Party

Speaking of rude, what happened to the please dont quote quote thread?

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Pulsar wrote:

Speaking of rude, what happened to the please dont quote quote thread?

Mr. Admin closed the thread and made it so that only the OP was visible.

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Saw that… It was marked with 4 new posts that I could not see when I noticed. Was wondering if one of them 4 posts was the culprit, or the general nonsense that led up to the last 4 posts lol

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ToyKeeper wrote:
You can find out which posts were marked by checking this link:

http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts

It may require some guesswork to figure out why posts were flagged, but at least it shows which posts they were.

Big Smile

I got a good laff just now. Apparently this was flagged as “rude”.

Anyone got a clue why?

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Lightbringer wrote:

Big Smile

I got a good laff just now. Apparently this was flagged as “rude”.

Anyone got a clue why?

I'm thinking it's the s-word.

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raccoon city wrote:
Lightbringer wrote:
I got a good laff just now. Apparently this was flagged as “rude”.

Anyone got a clue why?


I’m thinking it’s the s-word.

Maybe, but I wasn’t the one saying it. I get hit for quoting someone else?

Where I come from, it’s taboo, verboten, a Big No-No, to edit someone else’s quote, even to “clean it up”.

It would be like quoting you and adding “I hate babies” at the end. It’s Just Not Done.

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Lightbringer wrote:

Maybe, but I wasn’t the one saying it. I get hit for quoting someone else?

Yep.

Swearing is not allowed on BLF.

Lightbringer wrote:

Where I come from, it’s taboo, verboten, a Big No-No, to edit someone else’s quote, even to “clean it up”.

It would be like quoting you and adding “I hate babies” at the end. It’s Just Not Done.

It's done on BLF with regularity.

When I quote someone that swears, I make sure to edit out the swear.

I get enough rude marks as it is.  :X

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Lightbringer wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
You can find out which posts were marked by checking this link:

http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts

It may require some guesswork to figure out why posts were flagged, but at least it shows which posts they were.

Big Smile

I got a good laff just now. Apparently this was flagged as “rude”.

Anyone got a clue why?


Lol I chuckled so hard reading that the first time I saw it. Glad to be able to have another go at it now that you post a link to it Big Smile
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A suggested test:

Take the mental image you get from reading the item.

Imagine showing it to your mother or your young child. Or someone else’s.

If that’s not the result you were aiming for, consider it’s the result you get from some readers here.

Fortunately this isn’t a locker room.

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Since I was registered here I got 2 rude marks and dont care about then, the rude button do no exist for me Innocent

Those: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/983668#comment-983668 http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/976406#comment-976406

Edit: I confused the comment, its no a seller, its someone which “gain” “bolsa família” its a payment for peoples which no work here

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Franz wrote:

maybe is a brazilian seller which sells goods with 5x the real price 

Maybe it's someone that thinks the f-word doesn't belong on a family-friendly forum.  :THUMBS-UP:

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Franz wrote:

maybe is a brazilian seller which sells goods with 5x the real price 


Maybe it’s someone that thinks the f-word doesn’t belong on a family-friendly forum.  alt=:" />

Yeah, can be it too

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Personally, I don’t usually care which words people use… I care more about the underlying message. I mean, slurs are still to be avoided, particularly ones with a bloody history, but common “four letter words” seem pretty harmless. And some pretty harmful things can be said with flowery words.

I recognize that goes against both local convention and mainstream culture though, so it’s generally a good idea to follow that instead. As they say, when in Rome, do as the Romans do…

… even if the Romans were invasive imperialist jerks.

I’m not still salty about that.

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raccoon city wrote:

SubSailorVet wrote:

Let people have their little rude button, if it makes someone feel better when they don’t have the nuts to call the person out, they can get the last word so to say with the rude button.


I think it’s rude to belittle other BLF members like this.  ;)


I had no intent to belittle anyone, I was only suggesting to let it stay so people that won’t call someone out can get the last word. I guess my wording made it sound belittling. I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

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No “offense” taken here. It was dished out to you & you responded (rather reserved I thought) …. that is all I saw.

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Only SB knows for sure, but I get the impression that a lot of the “rude” points are sent from people who aren’t actively participating in the discussion. It’s a way to let someone know to be more careful without turning the thread into an off-topic discussion about etiquette.

Private messages can be used for this too, but it doesn’t happen as often and doesn’t give SB the same visibility into issues he might need to resolve. PMs can also be somewhat risky (or at least socially awkward) for the person asking for better behavior, and can easily escalate into disputes. Escalation is far less likely with the current system, aside from people occasionally complaining about the system itself.

The rude system can be abused, but the consequences are much more harsh than for someone merely making obnoxious posts. It gets SB’s attention and carries a high risk of getting the abuser banned, because it demonstrates harmful intent.

It’s not perfect, but it seems better than how things were before. The system was added because threads kept going into angry death spirals… and that is much less common now.

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Oh it is a heck of a lot better than it was right before the rude system was implemented. No doubt about that.

Interesting… I was under the impression that the person giving the rude mark could not be identified. From what you say TK looks like I was mis-informed. Smile

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teacher wrote:
No “offense” taken here. It was dished out to you & you responded (rather reserved I thought) …. that is all I saw.

Teacher, you have always been very amicable and friendly to me. I appreciate that! I do call things how I see them and never sugar coat my words. If I wasn’t reserved here I would have been kicked out long ago. I spent most of my working life in many supervisory positions, in the Navy I was a very young leader and made rank faster than normal because of my ways, one was telling my leaders how things really were, the hard truth and not telling them what weaklings think they want to hear. In the restaurant and nightclub business I had to get my point across to people with thick hard skulls, in IT I was the director of technology for a small but very busy hospital and had a few hundred “users” that were a buncha dumb@#*€¥!, it was hard but I did talk to the nurses gently, the arrogant doctors not so much. when I was a fugitive recovery agent I used strong language not because I liked it, because that is the only language scumbag degenerate filthy criminal sh¥&#€*?s understand. Well that and a nightstick across the skull or stun gun at the base of the neck gets your point across most of the time. Putting big bad tough guys in pink handcuffs and pink leg shackles pisses them off and takes away their bad attitude most of the time. Ha! But dealing with the hard criminals I discovered using respect not kissing their butt worked most of the time. Treating a criminal gently was hard to do because they were scumbags, but respect went a long way and they cooperated when I was respectful. If respect didn’t work, I used different methods, but they all eventually gave in and went to jail and I got paid. This is the only forum I’ve been where profanity is not allowed. It is a good idea, and the rude button lets SB know who gave it. I wonder if it was public knowledge who gave it how that would go??? What do you think?

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SubSailorVet wrote:
…..I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

This was a good point and my style to live, I tell what I think with no malevolent attacks hide in beautiful words. Since my conscious is clean, I cant do nothing if someone can’t deal with my thoughts Innocent

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SubSailorVet wrote:
…..I call it how I see it and don’t sugar coat what I say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

This was a good point and my style to live, I tell what I think with no malevolent attacks hide in beautiful words. Since my conscious is clean, I cant do nothing if someone can’t deal with my thoughts Innocent

Thumbs Up Beer

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