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Spartan wrote:
I like the oneplus but they don’t have a micro slot.

Besides, they are not as cheap in comparison as the original oneplus. At $500, I can buy the S9 for less….and dropping.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S9-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B079H6RL...

I would recommend a well sold Android One device:
Guaranteed updates for 2 to 3 years.
If they sold a lot you have a good chance to get a replacement battery after 2 years and a custom ROM.

Xiaomi A2 Lite is a bit cheaper.
Off course it depends what you want from your phone.
Some friends got one coming from and an iPhone and are happy with it.

$500 for a phone feels like wasting money to me.

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joechina wrote:
Spartan wrote:
I like the oneplus but they don’t have a micro slot.

Besides, they are not as cheap in comparison as the original oneplus. At $500, I can buy the S9 for less….and dropping.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S9-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B079H6RL...

I would recommend a well sold Android One device:
Guaranteed updates for 2 to 3 years.
If they sold a lot you have a good chance to get a replacement battery after 2 years and a custom ROM.

Xiaomi A2 Lite is a bit cheaper.
Off course it depends what you want from your phone.
Some friends got one coming from and an iPhone and are happy with it.

$500 for a phone feels like wasting money to me.

I only brought the $500 in comparison to the current oneplus.

$500 is a lot of money, but it is a high quality flagship that will probably last for many years. My 2011 S2 is still a good phone. Actually, non of my samsung phones had/have any issues.

The battery issue is a valid one. The S2 was hugely popular, but I bet that batteries are going to be scarce in a few years. I’m pretty sure after a year or two, battrried won’t be available for some obscure brand or low volume models.

The beauty of capitalism….we all have the ability to gather information and choose.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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Spartan wrote:
I like the oneplus but they don’t have a micro slot.

Besides, they are not as cheap in comparison as the original oneplus. At $500, I can buy the S9 for less….and dropping.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S9-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B079H6RL...

Precisely. That’s why I got the Note 8. When the Note 9 came out the price dropped $100. When the Note 10 is launched, the Note 9 will drop even more.

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You know what guys and gals?

You are right.

Rather than buying brand new budget phones, buy used phones if you can.
Unless you want a phone with a huge battery of course.

Why?

Well:
- Cost being usually the same.
- Usually having better support.
- Having higher specs.
- Better camera.
- Easily available spare parts.
- Being much better for the environment, especially if you can replace the battery.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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Just upgraded my Tracfone LG22C to their Moto G6. Got it at HSN for $199 with 1200minutes & texts & 1.2 data plus 365days service($95 value alone). And I can port my phone number and remaining credits from my LG. I have twice those amounts still in my account other than service only until 7/19/2019. Not much on social media, just want communication when needed. Tracfone has been all I have needed so far. Connected from Alaska/Canada/Italy/Greece so far, maybe China this fall.

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Bought a Galaxy S9 over a year ago on a discount deal for $379. Pre-ordered the unlocked Galaxy S10. They gave me a $550 trade-in for the S9, and a free set of wireless ear buds. Net cost was $349

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Hey guys, do you realize that service provider deals can’t be duplicated? That is why I posted Amazon prices and universal phones.

Up here, the service providers use to lock people onto 3 year contracts with cheap phones….and abusive service contracts.

If it can’t be bought outright and unlocked, with no service contract, then the price is suspect.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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Am I the only one who misses the days of picking up a prepaid Nokia candybar phone for 10-20bux… with sim card and free 10bux worth of airtime (and charger and all the other accoutrements)?

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I miss the days of phone booths. Especially getting inside them with strangers….oh wait…

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no need to think, pick xiaomi or redmi. My xiaomi Mi8 is good. I purchased it a week before Mi9 launching Facepalm

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Spartan wrote:
Hey guys, do you realize that service provider deals can’t be duplicated? That is why I posted Amazon prices and universal phones.

Up here, the service providers use to lock people onto 3 year contracts with cheap phones….and abusive service contracts.

If it can’t be bought outright and unlocked, with no service contract, then the price is suspect.

Mine was direct from Samsung USA, no contracts. You keep saying “up here”. Where is up here?

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Spartan wrote:
Hey guys, do you realize that service provider deals can’t be duplicated? That is why I posted Amazon prices and universal phones.

Up here, the service providers use to lock people onto 3 year contracts with cheap phones….and abusive service contracts.

If it can’t be bought outright and unlocked, with no service contract, then the price is suspect.

US carriers used to do that too, but T-Mobile pretty much changed the environment of the market and everyone else shifted their service plans to unsubsidized post paid plans (aka. No contracts). I was on T- Mobile when they did that and I thought it was great. Of course that meant your phone wasn’t included in your contact price anymore, so you had to buy your phone outright for big $$$ or pay in installments added to you bill. Expensive phones added $30 to your bill, but cheaper ones only 10-15. Without a contract they essentially locked you down with the penalty of the full balance of that phone coming due if you canceled your service before it was paid off (24 months) so that was how they kept you. Of course you could opt to have another carrier buy your phone off if your switched to them.

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RobertB wrote:
Spartan wrote:
Hey guys, do you realize that service provider deals can’t be duplicated? That is why I posted Amazon prices and universal phones.

Up here, the service providers use to lock people onto 3 year contracts with cheap phones….and abusive service contracts.

If it can’t be bought outright and unlocked, with no service contract, then the price is suspect.

Mine was direct from Samsung USA, no contracts. You keep saying “up here”. Where is up here?

Igloos. Polar bears running in the streets. Nose greetings.

Canada.

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Sirstinky wrote:
Spartan wrote:
Hey guys, do you realize that service provider deals can’t be duplicated? That is why I posted Amazon prices and universal phones.

Up here, the service providers use to lock people onto 3 year contracts with cheap phones….and abusive service contracts.

If it can’t be bought outright and unlocked, with no service contract, then the price is suspect.

US carriers used to do that too, but T-Mobile pretty much changed the environment of the market and everyone else shifted their service plans to unsubsidized post paid plans (aka. No contracts). I was on T- Mobile when they did that and I thought it was great. Of course that meant your phone wasn’t included in your contact price anymore, so you had to buy your phone outright for big $$$ or pay in installments added to you bill. Expensive phones added $30 to your bill, but cheaper ones only 10-15. Without a contract they essentially locked you down with the penalty of the full balance of that phone coming due if you canceled your service before it was paid off (24 months) so that was how they kept you. Of course you could opt to have another carrier buy your phone off if your switched to them.

It sounds like a back door service contract.

Up here, they did offer to pay it in installments, but you could pay off the real balance left.

I think it’s the law.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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Barry0892 wrote:
no need to think, pick xiaomi or redmi. My xiaomi Mi8 is good. I purchased it a week before Mi9 launching Facepalm

I 100% would pick them or Huawei…

if they didn’t work with only about half the cell frequencies here.

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That’s exactly what it is. They had to find a way to keep their customers from defecting. If you get an unlocked phone, all you needed is a SIM card to use it. Otherwise any phone you bought were locked to that network.

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Sirstinky wrote:
That’s exactly what it is. They had to find a way to keep their customers from defecting. If you get an unlocked phone, all you needed is a SIM card to use it. Otherwise any phone you bought were locked to that network.

We had the government step in and reduce the the stranglehold of the service providers. Worse still, there wasn’t the wide open competition up here that was available in the US.

As far as I’m concerned, make the cell towers public property and then let the service providers fight for service. As it stands, they use the stranglehold of putting up towers to control areas.

Capitalism never works if there is some element of exclusivity. Worse still if governments won’t let anybody and everybody compete for market share.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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Last November, I got the 4gig/64gig Moto X4 for what works out to be ~150 USD. I think this is the last in the style of phones I like: small (around 5”), full HD screen, fingerprint sensor up front, headphone jack, and IPX-8 waterproofing. Love Moto Actions as well. A cousin got the 6gig/64gig version for about USD 130 last month. Really dissatisfied with newer phones growing larger by the day and moving fingerprint sensors to the back and skipping headphone jacks.

Slow is smooth; smooth is fast.

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dhvl1357 wrote:
Last November, I got the 4gig/64gig Moto X4 for what works out to be ~150 USD. I think this is the last in the style of phones I like: small (around 5”), full HD screen, fingerprint sensor up front, headphone jack, and IPX-8 waterproofing. Love Moto Actions as well. A cousin got the 6gig/64gig version for about USD 130 last month. Really dissatisfied with newer phones growing larger by the day and moving fingerprint sensors to the back and skipping headphone jacks.

That’s the way the industry is headed. There are very few phones with under 5.5” screens and headphone jacks. It’s even harder to find pvi res with styluses (Samsung Note or LG Stylo). They are still out there, but that are usually lower end models.

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Sirstinky wrote:
That’s the way the industry is headed. There are very few phones with under 5.5” screens and headphone jacks.

Y’know just how annoying that is? Ie, you see some chickie with a nice round bum, bounded only by sheer stretchy material of her pants, nigh perfection… except for what looks like a clipboard wedged in her back pocket. Facepalm

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I never hold the cell to my ear. Now instead of holding a clipboard to my ear…….I’m talking to it near my chin.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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Spartan wrote:
I never hold the cell to my ear. Now instead of holding a clipboard to my ear…….I’m talking to it near my chin.

That’s why I always think those follks have a sandwich phone. Bite! Yum yum…

Anyways, my Sony XZ1Compact still works well. No need for full hd on a 4.6” screen, that would only drain the battery faster.
I only wish they added the silicone case right to it as the alu back is quite slipperey, the one I gotfrom bearguest is close to perfect for my needs.

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BlueSwordM wrote:
You know what guys and gals?

You are right.

Rather than buying brand new budget phones, buy used phones if you can.
Unless you want a phone with a huge battery of course.

Why?

Well:
- Cost being usually the same.
- Usually having better support.
- Having higher specs.
- Better camera.
- Easily available spare parts.
- Being much better for the environment, especially if you can replace the battery.

It’s what I always do. I bought the best phone from two or three years ago. The smartphones have very little change between one year and another, it’s basically marketing hype so you can change yours. They are always in good condition and I do not make an initial investment of more than 500 bucks. I will never pay more than 200 bucks for a phone.

Any old flagship is usually better than any chinese budget phone.

Long live the side switch (Join the resistance!)

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When I was shopping for phones in 2016 I was looking for a Samsung Note 5, I noticed a couple of things. 1, even after a year on the market, they were still over $400 for a new in box 64 GB (you had to get that capacity… no micro sd). Too expensive! So, I looked for Note 4’s and from the reviews, there wasn’t much difference between them, a slightly better camera, 1 GB more RAM, improved S Pen and a faster CPU. You gave up expandable storage, removable battery, and a more durable phone. I got a near-new Note 4 on auction for $225 shipped. When my Note 4 was dying this year, the Note 8 was out but was still $500-600 for a new in box. Then the Note 9 came out and the Note 8 pretty much depreciates by $150 even $200 overnight. I got a factory unlocked Note 8 in box for $385. It just got patched to Pi too. It’s amazing. I wonder how the Note 9 will depreciate when the Note 10 is launched in 4 months?

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just got the oneplus 6 and I am super happy with it. really nice phone.

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Honestly though, the best budget phone is the one you do not buy. Big Smile

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Update on my Moto E5 Play:

The phone is good enough for me, but it doesn't vibrate very hard.

I have it on a flat desk, and when it vibrates, I barely notice it.

That's the only problem I have so far, and I like it a lot more than my Moto E2.

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I’m really happy with my Moto G5S Plus that I’ve had since November 2017. It has everything I want; great battery life (Iused to get 8-10 hours screen time when it was new, after a year and a half its down to 6-8 hours).The Snapdragon 625 is no powerhouse but has a reputation for being extremely effecient, 3GB RAM is fine, SD card slot, headphone jack, nice screen (5.5” is the largest I’ll ever go for). None of these stupid extra gimmicks or the lame “headphone jack is outdated” excuse. The camera was just okay… Until I installed gcam with HDR+ and now I get pixel-esque shots. My only complaint is the GPS sucks but I don’t use it anyway.

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i got tired of trying to figure out all the android makers, models, years, versions, bugs, fixes…

what i did was get a 2016 iphone 6

it works well and was like $150 on amazon

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