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goshdogit wrote:
I’m back to report that the Solarforce L2-PC-2 pocket clip that others have recommended works great on the D1!

I spent a few minutes removing the lanyard clip and enlarging the hole to slip past the tail threads. I used a Dremel with a small sanding drum and cooled the clip periodically with a damp rag.

To make up for the gap created by the clip, I formed a piece of 14 AWG copper wire into a circle, flattened it, and fit it into the tailcap.

I removed the tail o-ring, slid the clip on, then replaced the o-ring. Seems like it would still keep water out.

The tailcap tightens down snugly and still allows the clip to rotate with a little effort. I’m very pleased with the fit.

I got two of the clips from Amazon for about $16 shipped.

Mine both have the SOLARFORCE logo etched on them. Others have mentioned they got blank ones.

That is an awesome engineering accomplishment you achieved. That is one thing I wish I had on my D4. I see there is a pocket clip available for the D4 now in case you were unaware. It doesn’t appear to be available separately though.

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My order from Mountain Electronics is still saying “complete” since the 23rd. Does that mean it’s in stock?

That just means they received your order. I placed an order for the 3A grey version on Friday morning and just got a shipment notification about an hour ago.

Thanks Smile I ordered it in green along with the 18350 tube. I’m pretty excited about it.

Nice! I wanted the green one with the 3A but it was unfortunately unavailable so I went with grey. Your order will say shipped where it once said complete once it has been shipped. I too am pretty excited about it Smile

I’m going to be using an Aspire 1100mAh 18350 with it. I’ve got 4 in stock ready for action.

Nice! I also have 5 of those batteries. They work amazingly well with the Emisar D4. I’d imagine that with the lower amperage draw of the D1 compared to the D4 that they’d work the same as an 18650 in it.

Sounds great. I’ll probaly order a D4 once I’m happy with the D1. I’m pretty sure I’ll be happy from what I’ve been reading.

Oh you will for sure. I liked my first D4 so much I order 2 more asap before they were unavailable. They go fast!

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Slargo83 wrote:
That is an awesome engineering accomplishment you achieved. That is one thing I wish I had on my D4. I see there is a pocket clip available for the D4 now in case you were unaware. It doesn’t appear to be available separately though.
Thanks! I can’t take credit for the idea. I just wanted to post a photo showing how the Solarforce clip interacts with the larger head of the D1.

Several other members have posted about fitting a ‘captive’ pocket clip on their D4. I liked these as opposed to the ‘clip-on’ clips that others have found compatible.

Here are a few, in no particular order: Smile

emarkd mounted a similar ‘Overready’ clip

CRX used a ‘PK Paladin’ clip on a D4

noboneshotdog used a Solarforce clip and a copper ‘wave washer’ on a D4

electricjelly used a Solarforce clip on a D4

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Slargo83 wrote:
That is an awesome engineering accomplishment you achieved. That is one thing I wish I had on my D4. I see there is a pocket clip available for the D4 now in case you were unaware. It doesn’t appear to be available separately though.
Thanks! I can’t take credit for the idea. I just wanted to post a photo showing how the Solarforce clip interacts with the larger head of the D1.

Several other members have posted about fitting a ‘captive’ pocket clip on their D4. I liked these as opposed to the ‘clip-on’ clips that others have found compatible.

Here are a few, in no particular order: Smile

emarkd mounted a similar ‘Overready’ clip

CRX used a ‘PK Paladin’ clip on a D4

noboneshotdog used a Solarforce clip and a copper ‘wave washer’ on a D4

electricjelly used a Solarforce clip on a D4

Definitely! I much prefer yours as opposed to the clip-on ones. I wonder which variation will come with the new D4. Hopefully not a clip-on.

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blue D4 Wink

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THANK YOU FOR YEARS OF YOUR SUPPORT AND FRIENDLY CONTACTS!

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Thanks for compiling this. I been having a hard time searching for and finding photos of clips people are using on their D4. Hard to find stuff in threads.

Slargo83 wrote:
goshdogit wrote:
Slargo83 wrote:
That is an awesome engineering accomplishment you achieved. That is one thing I wish I had on my D4. I see there is a pocket clip available for the D4 now in case you were unaware. It doesn’t appear to be available separately though.
Thanks! I can’t take credit for the idea. I just wanted to post a photo showing how the Solarforce clip interacts with the larger head of the D1.

Several other members have posted about fitting a ‘captive’ pocket clip on their D4. I liked these as opposed to the ‘clip-on’ clips that others have found compatible.

Here are a few, in no particular order: Smile

emarkd mounted a similar ‘Overready’ clip

CRX used a ‘PK Paladin’ clip on a D4

noboneshotdog used a Solarforce clip and a copper ‘wave washer’ on a D4

electricjelly used a Solarforce clip on a D4

Definitely! I much prefer yours as opposed to the clip-on ones. I wonder which variation will come with the new D4. Hopefully not a clip-on.

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M4D M4X wrote:

blue D4 Wink


Nice colour my friend. Thumbs Up

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myflashguy wrote:
M4D M4X wrote:

blue D4 Wink

Nice colour my friend. Thumbs Up

+1.

That blue is sexy!

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I want a blue D4! Lol

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It seems the first person to put dedomed SST-40 in D1 is Vinh:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?438988-Emisar-D1vn-Sm...
He says dedoming improves very little though and so he sell it with a dome.

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I ordered D1 on the first day, got it today.
I don’t agree that the 18350 feels awkward, for me it’s comfortable.
Can’t wait till the night Smile

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It seems the first person to put dedomed SST-40 in D1 is Vinh: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?438988-Emisar-D1vn-Sm... He says dedoming improves very little though and so he sell it with a dome.

Is it me or are those numbers a bit weird.

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Seems very weird.. I don’t see how a domed sst-40 can out throw the xp-l hi.

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I was curious also, do you think somehow with such a smallish reflector the extra output (lumens) would cause the difference. I know that an xpl hi should theoretically out throw a domed sst-40. I am a novice when it comes to modifying flashlights, although I am trying to learn, so I could very likely be wrong.

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Agro wrote:
It seems the first person to put dedomed SST-40 in D1 is Vinh:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?438988-Emisar-D1vn-Sm...
He says dedoming improves very little though and so he sell it with a dome.
Big Smile
Yesterday I asked Neal If it is possibble to order D1 without led and star because I want to put in a dedomed SST40 Cool
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Joey Adams wrote:
I was curious also, do you think somehow with such a smallish reflector the extra output (lumens) would cause the difference. I know that an xpl hi should theoretically out throw a domed sst-40. I am a novice when it comes to modifying flashlights, although I am trying to learn, so I could very likely be wrong.

My tests about SST40 and XP-L HI shows these numbers in the same C8 host and FET driver:
XP-L HI V2 1A:
5,9A, 1434 lumens, 93100 Cd, 610m

SST40 with dome:
8,6A, 2232 lumens, 70500 Cd, 531m

SST40 dedomed:
8,6A, 2000 lumens, 136300 Cd, 738m

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ZozzV6 wrote:
Joey Adams wrote:
I was curious also, do you think somehow with such a smallish reflector the extra output (lumens) would cause the difference. I know that an xpl hi should theoretically out throw a domed sst-40. I am a novice when it comes to modifying flashlights, although I am trying to learn, so I could very likely be wrong.

My tests about SST40 and XP-L HI shows these numbers in the same C8 host and FET driver:
XP-L HI V2 1A:
5,9A, 1434 lumens, 93100 Cd, 610m

SST40 with dome:
8,6A, 2232 lumens, 70500 Cd, 531m

SST40 dedomed:
8,6A, 2000 lumens, 136300 Cd, 738m

Wow!!!

I need some SST40 emitters? Where do you get them? Mountain Electronics is out of stock. Tired I guess maybe Kaidomain? Anyone know of any vendors selling 5000K SST40?

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I bought mine from kaidomain. Perfect dome, no bubbles and any defects in the dome.

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I wonder why vin had virtually the same result with his domed vs dedomed sst40s? Your results show that it’s far superior throw without the dome.

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Maybe he thought that a pocketable light has more useful beam with dome than a pencil beam. If you want more than 500m throw you will bring a big gun not a pocket thrower. It is still very good throw for the size with dome.

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ZozzV6 wrote:
I bought mine from kaidomain. Perfect dome, no bubbles and any defects in the dome.
Darnit. I just remembered why I HATE Kaidomain.

I can’t login there. I’m registered with 3 separate email addresses and none of my passwords ever work. I even click the button to reset the password and never get emails from them telling me the new temp password. the problem isn’t me remembering the passwords as I have them written down. Rather the problem is their login system is complete garbage.

Because I can’t login I can’t actually place an order with them.

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I Just ordered the D1vn

Spec 2: SST40 HD 6500K Lumen 2300, Lux 48K, Throw 438m

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treoneo wrote:
So I should just get the efest 18650 (max discharge of 35A) which would provide highest output and be done with it!

Sony VTC5A will probably give you the highest output (check it out in HKJ’s comparator), but you sacrifice a bit of runtime.

I have noticed that in HKJ comparator and have heard others say that. I do not doubt it. I am using a VTC5A in my TX25C2vn DD/single mode.

I am Certain of this.The minimal increase in output with the VTC5A will NOT be noticeable by eye. That is why I am going to use a 30Q in it.Longer run time and more durable than the other Two batteries listed in the chart. The chart below substantiates that decision for me.

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I have noticed that in HKJ comparator and have heard others say that. I do not doubt it. I am using a VTC5A in my TX25C2vn DD/single mode.

I am Certain of this.The minimal increase in output with the VTC5A will NOT be noticeable by eye. That is why I am going to use a 30Q in it.Longer run time and more durable than the other Two batteries listed in the chart.

I will personally be using a GA cell in my D1 when it arrives. (Probably) Still no noticeable output loss (to the naked eye) but longer runtime.

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I think there is more voltage sag with the 30q. I haven’t tested this but I’ve anecdotally noticed that the vtc5 stays brighter for much longer than the 30q. Don’t have a vtc5a or vtc6 though, just vtc5.. Also this is on a D4 which has a much higher drain so the d1 might prefer the 30qs…

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RollerBoySE wrote:
treoneo wrote:
So I should just get the efest 18650 (max discharge of 35A) which would provide highest output and be done with it!

Sony VTC5A will probably give you the highest output (check it out in HKJ’s comparator), but you sacrifice a bit of runtime.

I have noticed that in HKJ comparator and have heard others say that. I do not doubt it. I am using a VTC5A in my TX25C2vn DD/single mode.

I am Certain of this.The minimal increase in output with the VTC5A will NOT be noticeable by eye. That is why I am going to use a 30Q in it.Longer run time and more durable than the other Two batteries listed in the chart. The chart below substantiates that decision for me.

!{width:90%}https://s19.postimg.org/j9rvgwfnn/VTC6.30_Q.LGHG2_CAPACITY_TESTS.jpg!

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Why stock D1 has only 1400lm while blf a6 with spring bypass has 1600lm? Is it because the dome in a6 or something else?

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wolfdog1226 wrote:
I am Certain of this.The minimal increase in output with the VTC5A will NOT be noticeable by eye. That is why I am going to use a 30Q in it.

When you’re using a light with a fet driver (VN drivers are fet drivers too) and a high Vf led , like xp-g2 , output can be up to 15% better with a VTC5A . Even if both 30Q and VTC5A are in a low voltage , let’s say 3.4V , VTC5A will give more current than the 30Q .

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G Damian. The D1 uses an xpl HI. The blfa6 uses xpl HD. The dome on the a6 makes it have a higher total output, while the HD version has less lumens but much more throw.

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Joey Adams wrote:
G Damian. The D1 uses an xpl HI. The blfa6 uses xpl HD. The dome on the a6 makes it have a higher total output, while the HD version has less lumens but much more throw.

That’s semi-true.
Dome improves output and reduces throw.
But the highest bin of XP-L HI is 4 bins below that of HD. The difference that the dome makes amounts to ~1 bin. I have no idea why there’s no XP-L HI V6 available.

So I guess the right answer would be that D1 uses V3 bin and A6 uses V6 bin, just that.

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I was trying to be a little simplistic for him. Stated another way: G. Damain if you took the led out of your blf A6, dedomed it, and then reflowed it onto the mcpcb of the D1, and the power was identical, the overall total output would be 20 percent less but the throw would increase nearly 50 percent.

Agro is correct in that the difference is less here because the HI emitters are already binned substantially lower than the v6 bin. All together this adds up to be 7-11 percent less in this case. It’s probably less however because to get 1600 lumens out of the blf A6 you have to do everything right : springs bypassed correctly on both of the springs, and use a high drain battery that is capable of being charged to 4.35v and a charger that is also capable. And be sure to keep everything clean. Notice: NEVER EVER CHARGE A LITHIUM BATTERY TO 4.35v UNLESS IT IS SPECIFICALLY RATED FOR IT. You will at best drastically reduce capacity and lifetimes of the battery, and at worse overheat the battery until it vents or violently ruptures, destroying the battery, charger, and cause damage to everything in the vicinity. I’m sorry if you already know this but it pays to mention safety. When I first got into flashlights I had asked Richard at mountain electronics if I could charge a new batch of Samsung 30qs I got from him to 4.35v. The response came in what could have been the fastest email reply the world has ever known. He laid out everything bad that could happen in bold and all caps! It scared the crap out of me then and still does, so I usually try to pass the warning along to others.

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