WTB: Jetbeam RRT01 – Any place to buy it?! + [RRT01 2019 discussion]

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info@jetbeamlight.com guys. Be gentle, they are nice and helpful.

Does anyone know if the 2020 driver is in any way improved over the 2019 driver?

Also, the original RRT01, is it 2012 or 2013? I have seen both.

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pol77 wrote:
the original RRT01, is it 2012 or 2013? I have seen both.

I call the Original the 2012 version, because of the date of this review
https://www.everydaycommentary.com/www.everydaycommentary.com//2012/08/j...

and the date of this video

somebody should ask Jetbeam for confirmation

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I asked Jetbeam about temp control and lvp, and they said this: “The light has temperature control technology. We do not suggest you use the flashlight together with the unprotected li-ion battery.”

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Silly question maybe, but one has to ask it: If the original takes 18350 and even the driver of the 2019 version – why isn’t Jetbeam able to reproduce the format? They’re all getting smaller, just not the RRT01. Is it misplaced in the EDC market? The 2019 is not only bigger, it’s more fragile with its paper thin battery tube. This is a step backward.

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I agree these choices are Unheard of

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Any word on whether the 2020 version has LVP? Need to pick up some new cells if it doesn’t.

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Mine shipped, it’s a safe bet it doesn’t though since it includes this USB battery.

Also, vinh added it to his site and he lists a “tail stand mod” as an option for modding. I seriously cannot believe after all this time manufacturers cannot get their shit together to make a light tail stand out of the box. Facepalm

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My RRT01 and RRT03 arrived (both 2020 editions). Both are the neutral white Nichia versions.

First impressions:

  • RRT01 has a perfect beam pattern with nice tint. No rings or artifacts in the beam. Reflector is light orange peel.
  • RRT03’s main beam also has a fairly nice beam pattern. Floodier and less throwy. However, the aux LED beam pattern is as expected pretty bad since its coming up through the gap between the optics.
  • I haven’t double-checked, but it looks like the RRT03’s optic might be a Carclo 10507. There is a glow gasket under the optic
  • The rings in both lights are very smooth. Smoother than the 2019 RRT-01’s ring. The RRT03 has detentes at each setting. The RRT01 has no detentes at all. The rings in both lights feel great. However if you plan on using the RRT01 in standby mode (switch always left on and only use the ring to turn on and off the light), there is a chance the ring might turn on in the pocket.
  • RRT01 will dim all the way to off using just the ring and not using the button.
  • RRT03 is not infinitely variable. It has 3 brightness settings plus disco-mode aux LEDs.
  • Dimmest main LED setting on the RRT03 is still quite bright. Closest thing to a moonlight it has is the red aux LED.
  • Aux leds in RRT03 have the option to have red, green or blue on as a solid color. Or you can have the flashing. To get to aux led mode, move the ring one notch past high. Changing aux led settings is controlled with the forward clicky using off-time memory. If you don’t leave the light off for several seconds between turning off and on in aux led mode, you’ll probably advance to the next color or blinky option in the aux LED sequence.
  • The extension tubes that come with the new RRT01 and RRT03 work perfectly with the 2019 RRT01.
  • Head is about the same width as the 2019 version and like that light contains a brass pill. For 18350 lights these are not tiny.
  • Tailstanding – works but is slightly wobbly. Inserting an extra o-ring between the rubber boot and the switch mechanism should fix this.

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I read earlier that previous versions of RRT01 support AA batteries. Is this still true?

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Some additional information from testing these lights today:

  • My guess is the RRT01 2020 uses the same driver as the 2019 version. Driver operation appears identical.
  • 2020 RRT01 runs fine on AA. I tested it with a 1.3v Eneloop Pro and it worked.
  • RRT03 does not work on AA. It has a different driver and only works on li-ion.
  • 2020 RRT01 head is compatible with 2019 RRT01 body.

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Thank you so much for answer that question.

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Firelight2 wrote:

The extension tubes that come with the new RRT01 and RRT03 work perfectly with the 2019 RRT01

2020 RRT01 will dim all the way to off using just the ring and not using the button.

My guess is the RRT01 2020 uses the same driver as the 2019 version. Driver operation appears identical.

2020 RRT01 runs fine on AA. I tested it with a 1.3v Eneloop Pro and it worked.

2020 RRT01 head is compatible with 2019 RRT01 body.


congratulations!

and thanks for the first field report
you answered a lot of questions for us Smile

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So do I buy a few protected 18500s and use 1 extension per light or use the stock 18350 and protected 18650 on one. Decisions, decisions

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Buy AA Eneloops and give the triple to Granni? Party

endless possibilities… lol

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Thanks for the info!

Does it get as low as the 2019 model? And if it is on high, does it step down once it heats up?

Oh, and can you figure out what the hole in the control ring is for?

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contactcr wrote:
So do I buy a few protected 18500s and use 1 extension per light or use the stock 18350 and protected 18650 on one. Decisions, decisions

Stock battery is a 700mAh 16340. IMHO protected 1200mAh 18350 is the best choice for this light since it’s already pretty long and shorter length seems like it would make being able to manipulate both the ring and tail switch easier. Can’t say that from experience since mine isn’t here till the 29th though.

The highest cap 18500s I’ve seen are only ~2000mAh or less, doesn’t seem worth it to me.

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BurningPlayd0h wrote:

The highest cap 18500s I’ve seen are only ~2000mAh or less, doesn’t seem worth it to me.


http://budgetlightforum.com/node/73065
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Good points about ring and switch. Shorter does seem better.

2200mAh is good but not protected. Guess it’s not necessary but nice for this light.

Stock battery on new one is an 18350 already according to site so that’s a nice upgrade from last year.

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contactcr wrote:
Good points about ring and switch. Shorter does seem better.

2200mAh is good but not protected. Guess it’s not necessary but nice for this light.

Stock battery on new one is an 18350 already according to site so that’s a nice upgrade from last year.

Oh nice, I missed that. Lists the turbo runtime as 35min vs 25 from the 2019 model so must be higher cap than 700mAh too.

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If the extensions work for 2019 model – shouldn’t the 2019 head fit the 2020 tube then?

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asdqqq wrote:
Does it get as low as the 2019 model?

Yes. Just like the 2019 or 2012 version…. you can turn the control ring and get a gradual smooth dimming all the way until you can barely see the emitter is lit when staring directly into it from close range.

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Oh, and can you figure out what the hole in the control ring is for?

Appears to do nothing as far as I can tell. The RRT01 has the hole in the ring but the RRT03 does not.

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If the extensions work for 2019 model – shouldn’t the 2019 head fit the 2020 tube then?

Yes, the 2019 head fits and works with the 2020 body tube.
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Protected 18350 are to long for the rrt-01 2019 version. Do they fit in 2020 version?

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Thanks Firelight, means the weak spot of the 2019 model, its paper thin tube, can be fixed!

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g_damian wrote:
Protected 18350 are to long for the rrt-01 2019 version. Do they fit in 2020 version?

I don’t have any protected 18350, but they should have no trouble fitting.

The 18350 that the new 2020 RRT-01 and -03 comes with, includes a built-in USB port and charging circuit. It’s much longer than my Aspire 1100 mAh 18350 and is probably longer than any protected 18350 cell.

The overall light is pretty big for an 18350 light. Especially so for the RRT-01 which is slightly longer than the RRT-03 due to the longer reflector. In 18350 configuration the new RRT-01 is about the same size as an FW3A with 18650 tube.

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Is there anywhere we can purchase the new 18650 extension tube?

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Do AA cells rattle around in there or do they provide an adapter?

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m0nk33 wrote:
Is there anywhere we can purchase the new 18650 extension tube?

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jetstorm wrote:
I read earlier that previous versions of RRT01 support AA batteries. Is this still true?

My first-gen RRT01 will run on AA/NiMh voltage, however I don’t have any body tube that supports that size cell. Maybe one can be adapted from another Jetbeam light.

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Firelight2
Can we ask for some pictures, please? I would like to see rrt03 and rrt01 optic.

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m0nk33 wrote:
Is there anywhere we can purchase the new 18650 extension tube?
I think you would need to buy the two extenders from one of the vendors, there is no actual 18650 tube

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contactcr wrote:
not protected. Guess it’s not necessary but nice for this light.

there is no Low Voltage Shutoff in the RRT-01 driver, and no thermal step down

a responsible user can manage unprotected cells, by observing when output gets dim, or starts to flicker, and/or by checking voltage manually. But if Granni falls asleep with the light on, it IS possible to overdischarge. So give Granni eneloops Wink

It is also possible to damage an RRT-01 by tailstanding it on maximum, using LiIon. So, dont tailstand on maximum, as there is no thermal protection.

this is what my original 2012 RRT-01 does when voltage goes below 2.5v (by which time max output is less than 15 lumens):

I wonder who will be first to test the 2020 maximum output with AA Eneloop?:-)

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g_damian wrote:
Protected 18350 are to long for the rrt-01 2019 version.
review says 18350 protected does work in the 2019 model…
liquidretro wrote:
it takes 18350’s including protected cells

(vinh also reported that protected 18350 works in the 2019 RRT-01):

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