WTB: Jetbeam RRT01 – Any place to buy it?! + [RRT01 2019 discussion]

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Firelight2 wrote:
My RRT01 and RRT03 arrived (both 2020 editions). Both are the neutral white Nichia versions.

First impressions: LINK


Thank you for this valuable info! I had no idea that the RRT03 would lack infinitely variable control. Only 3 steps and the lowest isn’t moonlight? That’s a deal breaker for me. I can’t see what use there would be with this light, as it’s primarily a task light (RRT-01 has been that, due to infinite variable). Might as well get an Emisar D4SV2, as it implements the aux LED’s much better.
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jon_slider wrote:

g_damian wrote:
Protected 18350 are to long for the rrt-01 2019 version.
review says 18350 protected does work in the 2019 model…
liquidretro wrote:
it takes 18350’s including protected cells

(vinh also reported that protected 18350 works in the 2019 RRT-01):

I meant that with protected 18350 2019 version cannot be assembled without small gap.

liquidretro wrote:
The light will take 18350 batteries too, these fill up the cavity better (Although no rattle with the 16340 that’s included) but if your using a protected 18350 it might not screw down completely flush.
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Firelight2 wrote:
g_damian wrote:
Protected 18350 are to long for the rrt-01 2019 version. Do they fit in 2020 version?

I don’t have any protected 18350, but they should have no trouble fitting.

The 18350 that the new 2020 RRT-01 and -03 comes with, includes a built-in USB port and charging circuit. It’s much longer than my Aspire 1100 mAh 18350 and is probably longer than any protected 18350 cell.

The overall light is pretty big for an 18350 light. Especially so for the RRT-01 which is slightly longer than the RRT-03 due to the longer reflector. In 18350 configuration the new RRT-01 is about the same size as an FW3A with 18650 tube.

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In my RRT01 2019 with protected keeppower P1835C2 the gap is about 0,4 – 0,5mm

Edit.
My light has this gap even without battery

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Protected 1200mAh Keepower 18350 in 2019 RRT-01 does not close all the way, but it does work and does cover the O ring..:

I can understand how some people would not be happy about that gap though…

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Wow. This gap is HUGE. Now I think I’m lucky my KP fits (almost) perfectly.

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My 18350 INR KP 1200 mAh fits perfectly. No gap.

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Wow. This gap is HUGE. Now I think I’m lucky my KP fits (almost) perfectly.
maybe measure your protected 18350 battery, and the brass gap when installed, so we have some specifics to compare

fwiw, the Protected Keepower 1200mAh 18350 is supposedly 39mm long (on left)
can you confirm that length?

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My 18350 INR KP 1200 mAh fits perfectly. No gap.
the UNprotected is shorter (pictured above on right)

I have the UnProtected Keepower 1200mAh 18350, it is 34.7mm long.. a difference of 4.3mm shorter, without the protection circuit.

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I can understand how some people would not be happy about that gap quote]

Yikes, I wouldn’t want to test it’s water resistance with that gap.

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Jeffg0330 wrote:
I wouldn’t want to test it’s water resistance with that gap.

the O ring is still covered.. no change in water resistance

the gap does not affect the function of the light, it is a cosmetic issue only

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jon_slider wrote:
Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Wow. This gap is HUGE. Now I think I’m lucky my KP fits (almost) perfectly.
maybe measure your protected 18350 battery, and the brass gap when installed, so we have some specifics to compare

fwiw, the Protected Keepower 1200mAh 18350 is supposedly 39mm long (on left)
can you confirm that length?
pic

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My 18350 INR KP 1200 mAh fits perfectly. No gap.
the UNprotected is shorter (pictured above on right)

I have the UnProtected Keepower 1200mAh 18350, it is 34.7mm long.. a difference of 4.3mm shorter, without the protection circuit.

My protected KP 1200mAh is 39mm and unprotected KP 1200mAh is 35,2mm.
The gap is as I wrote in post #755
0,4-0,5mm with and without battery inside.

Btw. Your unprotected KP looks strangely short if believe the HKJ measurements

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Interesting. Maybe the threading in the tube is not far enough?

My tube is 53.6 mm in length, the thread goes all the way down to the tapering (9.45 mm).

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
My protected KP 1200mAh is 39mm and unprotected KP 1200mAh is 35,2mm.
The gap is as I wrote in post #755
0,4-0,5mm with and without battery inside.

Btw. Your unprotected KP looks strangely short if believe the HKJ measurements


glad you are able to fit protected 18350 in your 2019 RRT-01, and that the gap is the same either way..

sounds like different copies of the 2019 RRT-01 have different size gaps with protected 18350..

it also sounds like the batteries themselves vary in length, as my 34.7mm vs your 35.2mm unprotected 18350 measurements are clearly different.

In any case, I think we all agree that the 2019 RRT-01 does work with Protected 18350, and does not expose the O ring, even though it does show the brass..

enjoy your lights!

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I asked Jetbeam about the hole in the control ring and they said this: “The control ring hole is for put grease into it. It’s not for tritium vial.” Can anyone explain what that means? They don’t need a hole on any other version of the light for the grease. Will this compromise waterproofing, or was that part of the design always on the outside of the waterproof barrier? Will this make it easier to regrease the ring down the road without diassembly?

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The control ring has always been open to the elements. Over time they do get dry or gritty and needs cleaned and refreshed.
Grease tends to shed water so it helps a little being water resistant..

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there is an O ring that seals the center of the control ring assembly, so even though water could get between the control ring contact faces (where the ball bearing rides), the water cannot get inside the pill.

here are some examples of the O ring seal on various models of magnetic rotaries
red O rings

black O ring on V10r Ti, which is similar to the 2019 and 2020 RRT-01 configuration (ignore the arrows, they are part of a past discussion of where to put grease)

plus locktite that seals the threads. (this is a V10r, also similar assembly as the 2019 and 2020 RRT-01

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jon_slider wrote:
Protected 1200mAh Keepower 18350 in 2019 RRT-01 does not close all the way, but it does work and does cover the O ring..:

I can understand how some people would not be happy about that gap though…

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Listen to the Vinh Salesman Spin:
the exposed Brass gives a “very nice cool look” Cool

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m0nk33 wrote:
Is there anywhere we can purchase the new 18650 extension tube?

Nealsgadgets

Do I need to email Neal about this or something? Looking at his website I can’t find just the extension tubes listed. I have 3 2019 light’s i’d love 18650 extension tubes for!

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bleomycin wrote:
id30209 wrote:

m0nk33 wrote:
Is there anywhere we can purchase the new 18650 extension tube?

Nealsgadgets

Do I need to email Neal about this or something? Looking at his website I can’t find just the extension tubes listed. I have 3 2019 light’s i’d love 18650 extension tubes for!

Well it works just fine but looks a bit odd to me…..

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Received from Neal 2020 rrt01. The extension tubes came as part of the stock packaging so i think mainly available with the light??
Also pleasantly surprised by grey anodized. If i were a rocket scientist i could post a darn picture or two.
Also was sent xpl instead of nichia which made the decision whether to emitter swap for me.
Bezel opens to reveal mcpcb ready to extract and swap emitter. That sounds easier that opening older ones? I’m no expert though so don’t exactly know what I’m yakking about…ha ha, my phone put that word in for me… yakking

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Jchang76 wrote:

From Google drive… nothing huh?


I never did get it to work either. Signed up for free Imgur and been uploading pics there for a few years.
It gives you a link to post your hosted pic.
I see your link now. Just click the insert pic icon in blf and place your link there and set relative width to about 70%.
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bleomycin wrote:
Do I need to email Neal about this or something? Looking at his website I can’t find just the extension tubes listed. I have 3 2019 light’s i’d love 18650 extension tubes for!

It’s probably worth contacting Neal. Extension tubes are included with the JETBeam RRT01 Raptor on his website.

He’s charging $5 more if you want an RRT01 without extension tubes. He might end up with some spares but people probably won’t pay more for less…

Tim.

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If someone owns 2019 and 2020 versions: It would be very nice to verify that the new battery tube fits the old head. I presume it does since the extensions can connect both parts, but someone here said it won’t work. I intend to ask Jetbeam for a seperate 2020 tube to replace the old one, which has a thickness of only about 0.5 mm. Not interested in the new head. Also, does this combination, if it works, finally take protected 18350 cells?

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Bezel opens to reveal mcpcb ready to extract and swap emitter. That sounds easier that opening older ones?

I opened the 2019 head exactly this way and did an emitter swap. No need to open the head. SWM V11R needed this, but not the Jetbeam. Space is limited to unsolder the MCPCB though, but it works.

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Unheard wrote:
If someone owns 2019 and 2020 versions: It would be very nice to verify that the new battery tube fits the old head. I presume it does since the extensions can connect both parts, but someone here said it won’t work. I intend to ask Jetbeam for a seperate 2020 tube to replace the old one, which has a thickness of only about 0.5 mm. Not interested in the new head. Also, does this combination, if it works, finally take protected 18350 cells?

I just tested the 2019 head on the 2020 body.
  • It fits with no issues.
  • It should take a protected cell. The new tube is longer and the cell it comes with is an 1100 mAh 18350 with protection circuit and charging board with USB circuit on top. This longer cell fits fine and I suspect any 18350 should fit.
  • I’m not sure this will fix any durability issues though. I don’t have a caliper to verify, but the thin portions of the 2020 lube look very similar to the 2019 tube.

Looks like it’s time for me to try to order some replacement drivers from Jetbeam. Opened up my modded TCR-01 triple today to take a look inside at the emitters. Driver wires torqued when I unscrewed the bezel and then shorted.

I was careful to only grip the portion of the head above the ring when unscrewing the bezel. But unfortunately the optic was stuck in the bezel and when I unscrewed the bezel it turned the optic which caused the star to turn. Oops! I had a cell installed at the time too. I disassembled the driver sandwich to install new wires, but a couple components broke along with trace where one of the driver wires connects. This driver has had it.

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Firelight2 wrote:

  • I’m not sure this will fix any durability issues though. I don’t have a caliper to verify, but the thin portions of the 2020 lube look very similar to the 2019 tube.

Thanks a lot! That was my main point. Bad news, but that saves me some money.

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Unheard wrote:
does this combination, if it works, finally take protected 18350 cells?

the 2019 already works with protected 18350
from what Im reading here, the 2020 is the same.

Unheard wrote:
someone here said it won’t work.

Jetbeam told me the 2020 extensions are not compatible with the 2019, but that info was not correct.

This is a 2019 head and body w 2020 extensions:

shirnask wrote:
it works just fine


So anyone that wants to use 18650 w the 2019 model, just needs to buy the two extensions for the 2020 version. To be clear, there is NO 18650 tube, just extensions that can be added to the 18350 tubes.

I asked batteryjunction if they would sell just the extensions, they said No!

If somebody wants to buy just the extensions, I suggest you ask Jetbeam if they will sell them to you separately. Let us know what you learn…

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jon_slider wrote:
Unheard wrote:
does this combination, if it works, finally take protected 18350 cells?

the 2019 already works with protected 18350
from what Im reading here, the 2020 is the same.


Thanks, yes, I understand the threads are not anodized, so no contact problem. I meant taking the cell without showing this ugly gap ;-).

I made good experience with Jetbeam selling parts. Currently, shipping costs a small fortune (in my case it was $15) though.

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Unheard wrote:
ugly gap

I agree it is ugly.

possible solutions:

1. I read somewhere that a shorter spring allows for the use of protected 18350, without an ugly gap. Reasearch needed to locate an additional spring. I do not recommend cutting the stock spring.

2. I wonder if something could be made, to fill the gap..

sometimes I ask myself:
what would CRX do? Smile

(my guess is he would fabricate a narrow copper ring to fill the gap)

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you had hopes the 2020 body would be thicker than the 0.5mm at the edge of the 2019 body

I can understand that it looks a bit thin.
I also dont like how large the 2019/2020 body is, in diameter.

maybe it will help to know this:
my original RRT-01 also has the same 0.5mm metal thickness, at the edge past the female threads… But it does not look too thin to me, maybe because it is a smaller diameter…

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despite those, and other considerations about RRT-01 design…

this is a very good time for someone interested in buying a magnetic rotary Smile

no light is perfect, but for me, the Original RRT-01 is as close as I have come to getting every feature I want in a light.

I hope you find and LED mod, lights that make you smile as much as I do when I pick up one of mine Smile

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Thanks, Jon, that was helpful. Hunting for the perfect light is part of the game Big Smile .

Yes, my LED mods make me really happy. I think I made a lot of lights better.

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