A C8/C10 sized and styled Zoomie under $15 Interesting.

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A C8/C10 sized and styled Zoomie under $15 Interesting.

This is a rather unusual light.  Its C8/C10 sized and styled but it is a zoomie.   It has a far bigger lens than the Trustfire Z5 and I suspect that with an XM-L/2.8A driver mod it would outperform the Z5 but for a whole lot less money.   

The only question is whether the pill is decent.  Sadly that cannot be seen fully from the images.

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VFMaddict wrote:

This is a rather unusual light.  Its C8/C10 sized and styled but it is a zoomie.   It has a far bigger lens than the Trustfire Z5 and I suspect that with an XM-L/2.8A driver mod it would outperform the Z5 but for a whole lot less money.   

The only question is whether the pill is decent.  Sadly that cannot be seen fully from the images.

 

Thank you Sir, that's what I'm looking for some time. Pill does not matter so much, it can be modified.

With this lens I got 35k lux and quite big spot in throw mode, and the flood is amazing also. Focal lenght only ~18mm, so very effective.

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viffer750 wrote:

VFMaddict wrote:

This is a rather unusual light.  Its C8/C10 sized and styled but it is a zoomie.   It has a far bigger lens than the Trustfire Z5 and I suspect that with an XM-L/2.8A driver mod it would outperform the Z5 but for a whole lot less money.   

The only question is whether the pill is decent.  Sadly that cannot be seen fully from the images.

 

Thank you Sir, that's what I'm looking for some time. Pill does not matter so much, it can be modified.

With this lens I got 35k lux and quite big spot in throw mode, and the flood is amazing also. Focal lenght only ~18mm, so very effective.

Which emitter were you using?

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a T5 xm-l at 3-3.5A

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That is very, very interesting.   It suggests that this new Small Sun could be one heck of a light with a well driven XM-L in it.   A well driven X9 only hits around 32K throw lux.

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Okay, here is a test with an xm-l (about 3.5A) + above mentioned 44mm lens. Focusing only with hand, so not perfect.

3.17m distance, so the multiplier factor is exactly 10.

Maybe it would be better from greater distance.

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Hmm that does look pretty nice.  Wish they would start using XR-E R2 bin instead of the old Q5 that they apparently made 10 billion of and give them out like candy.

I wouldn't put an XM-L in it though due to the surface brightness issue as well as how it puts more light off to the sides.  I mean, there is a Yetz R9 or something that already uses XM-L and has a quite big head/aspheric to go with it.  Driven poorly but Id think that would be a better starting point.

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R2 v XM-L, well it depends if you are looking for pure throw or flexibility.   I have an HS-802 clone, the Trustfire USA168 modded with a 1.4A single mode plus I have a MCU-C88 which is stock.   Both are pretty much pure throwers.  This C10-s zoomie is more something to toy with.   I may get one and see how it is on the Q5 before trying an XM-L in it.

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I think I might order this one. This is the size of a HS-802 (when fully zoomed) but using an aspheric lens instead. It should be getting in the neighborhood of 40k or more lux.

[edit] I just ordered it! Thanks for the heads-up!
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Must resist.............

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cd520 wrote:

Must resist.............

Just take one more look...hit that link...there aren't any other aspheric lens that large in this price range...just put it in your cart...you don't have to buy it...this is Manafont...you will have it in 2 weeks...Christmas is near... Smile
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I couldn't resist. Sad
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JohnnyMac wrote:
I couldn't resist. :(

I'm going to be broke before Christmas, but friends and family are going to have to spend more on batteries and chargers. Laughing

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gorann, you maybe misunderstood me, I want to modify this small sun light with this lens +  an xm-l. But it depends how will perform the original lens.

On the other hand I have a flood to throw light with above mentioned dx 44mm lens, and this is one of my favorite light, almost 60k lux in throw state... 

here is a comparison, with C8 xr-e  

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It's an xr-e Q2 at 1.5A.

Earlier I found a very cheap zoomie body with big head on a hungarian auction site, and I modified that. 


 

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how performs an xm-l with 44mm lens against C8 + xr-e  and C8 + xm-l

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I just ordered this light and I've already received an email from Manafont that my order has been dispatched to the post office!

Hopefully the shipping time will be just as speedy! I just received an email notification from DX that a similar light has shipped as well.

This will be a direct comparison of the shipping times between the two companies. I'm guessing Manafont will win Smile
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OK, OK, I'm in. Not the right season for waiting for your verdicts.

Curious if it will beat my UltraOK C8 Q5, which is driven at 1.75A.

 

Edit: The zooming action seems to be the standard push-pull, not by rotation (as described).

Edit Edit: I now see that the emitter comes quite close to the lens when zoomed out, so there is enough space for the zooming threads to remain hidden inside the head even when fully extended.

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Ordered late Saturday, dispatch notice early Monday. Smile

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Anyone knows the real diameter of the lens in this one?

 

It looks like it might be 40-42mm.

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Comparing to my Manta Ray, which is very much the same body (only not focusing) and seeing that on this one the bezel ring looks somewhat thicker, I'd estimate this bezel opening to be about 36-37mm (Manta's is 38).

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What size R2-emitter star fits in this one?

Or whats the easiest way to mod it to use R2 bin-emitter?

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Welcome to BLF, whelibob Smile

This is a new light so no-one's has arrived yet.   Until then, no idea re star size.

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VFMaddict wrote:

Welcome to BLF, whelibob Smile

This is a new light so no-one's has arrived yet.   Until then, no idea re star size.

Thanks! Smile

I'll have to order it myself aswell then.

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Welcome whelibob.

 

Have fun here. I do...

 

I'm very impressed by the number of people here who don't have English as their first language.

Many of whom write better English than I do.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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I should give you a scolding reprimand for posting this! Why do you always dig up VERY interesting zoom lights at a time when I either

A) Have no money

B) Have to leave home for very extended periods of time and therefore will not receive it untill 4 months after I order it.

C) Is somehow in bad standing with SWMBO 

Arrgh I cannot buy this I must not buy this. It probably rocks mega super top dollar and I will not get it. Ding dang dew this is a conondrum.

Sorry for my rant I´m just jealous. And unfair.   Blushing

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This from Jim at Manafont
My Qestion:
Can you physicaly confirm please if this light is a PUSH/PULL zoom or a TWIST or TURN for zoom.
Thanks

Thank you very much for your inquiry.

"PUSH/PULL" design used in the product. Please refer to the products photos:

Thank you very much for your reminder. The product description has been corrected accordingly.  Thank you again for your support to Manafont.

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Too bad, as I was planning to use it for throw only ...

Maybe a thicker o-ring can make it stay put?

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Well, that's another light that will end up in my garbage or actually probably torn apart for parts.

This is the downside of buying from (all of) these sites. It's also why I never spend much on any one item since you can't count on knowing any detail of the product.

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I know everyone likes either the push/pull or the twisty zoom for their own reasons, for me I find I want the light to be closer to the eye level (instead of “strolling”) –then I can us the zoom in and out with one hand and still have my thumb on the switch button.

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I don't like the build or beam quality of flood to throw lights so my only interest is in the optic and using it in fixed throw mode. Twist is much better for that.

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