This is not the buck driver that we were promised with…
I bought it BECAUSE it was supposed to be regulated at 4,5A…
I don’t care for a hotrod, if the final version is a FET+1 driver it’s overpriced
X3 wrote:
Please confirm what type of driver will be in the GT mini BEFORE shipping them.
If it’s a FET+1 I’ll simply ask for a refund.
Why ? False advertisement, simply that.
If they choose to send it before stating what type of driver is in, then I’ll make a claim on PayPal asking for a full refund.
Why ? False advertisement.
I may sound irritated… because I am. I already own a D1S, no need for another one in a slightly different design.
X3 wrote:
Email sent to Neal to cancel my order.
Maybe I will not buy my FW3A after all… If Lumintop doesn’t know the difference between a FET driver and a buck driver…
The last user manual still mention a buck driver !
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The driver is a FET+1 design. A buck driver was considered but it would limit the output greatly with the XP-L HI LED.
I have yet to see a China buck driver for a single cell light that was in regulation for more then a few minutes. Usually they drop out of regulation almost instantly. Rendering the entire point of a buck drive moot except for low modes.
The manual was copied from the normal GT and the buck part just slipped through and was not put in there intensionally.
EDIT : oh, and if it was just a mistake because the user manual was copied from the GT… How do you explain the “17W 4,5A” part ? I doubt that the GT is only 17W…
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I guess
This is a problem with the internal work of Lumintop
This user manual is probably not written by LUMINTOP. (?)
Just like GT, it is written by BLF members.
When Lumintop is getting stronger and stronger
The organization and division of labor within the company should be more detailed.
I guess
This is a problem with the internal work of Lumintop
This user manual is probably not written by LUMINTOP. (?)
Just like GT, it is written by BLF members.
When Lumintop is getting stronger and stronger
The organization and division of labor within the company should be more detailed.
Yeah I quite know how they work… I’ve done some translation for them, user manuals mostly.
They kept promise me a GT for review… I’ve never got it. And of course, I never had other models to review since this. Basically I worked for free.
Yet I trusted them once more for the GT mini…
I don’t know why it doesn’t work, I’ve been doing this for Olight For 3 years now, never had a problem.
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“Worked for free…”
Interesting, the definition of work must be eluding me. And here all this time I thought it was mattaus, wight, comychair, warhawk, toykeeper, rmm, del and their like that were doing all the heavy lifting around here…
There’s no mechanical tail switch here, right?
I’m beginning to wonder why all the side switch lights use the electronic switch… essentially this leaves full power running up to the emitter at all times in a “sleep” mode when off. Have I forgotten why a mini Omten isn’t used as a side switch, breaking the positive flow instead of the usual negative interruption? Was just thinking, probably dangerous I know….
I’m beginning to wonder why all the side switch lights use the electronic switch… essentially this leaves full power running up to the emitter at all times in a “sleep” mode when off. Have I forgotten why a mini Omten isn’t used as a side switch, breaking the positive flow instead of the usual negative interruption? Was just thinking, probably dangerous I know….
With a mechanical side switch, like in the Little Dipper series, you can’t use the press and hold for ramping. You would be limited to the tail clicky UI’s.
With the e-switch you do get some parasitic drain since the MCU needs to monitor the switch circuit, but usually that drain is very low like on the Q8 and GT. For a light sitting on a shelf most of the time I just turn the tail cap to break the circuit. No worries of drain then.
I do remember hearing of a ramping UI that used a clicky switch. You would half press to start it ramping then another half press to stop it. I recall they said it was pretty clunky to use. It might have been from ToyKeeper or Tom E.
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Is there any switch circuitry that is so efficient it uses less than the power than the self discharging rate of the battery?
It’s not switch circuitry, it’s driver circuitry.
I think the parasitic drain on the 3 lights mentioned (with switch leds turned off) are a bit higher than the self discharging rate of the battery. It would still take years to fully discharge.
Eraursls1984 wrote:
So what cons are there since it doesn’t drain any power?
Not too many. Some people just like certain things.
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Certain drivers have ultra low electronic switch parasitic drain. Only a few though. If one is planning to use a different driver then things change, parasitic drains can become quite large.
I asked because I may be changing the driver in my GT mini and it may be preferable due to the UI for me to use a mechanical switch. The SS ring around the rubber boot is press fit in the GT mini, not recommended to remove it and I’m sure it wouldn’t be easy to do, might even be loose upon trying to reassemble. Still though, it may be possible to approach the situation from another angle….
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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1353023#comment-1353023
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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1353037#comment-1353037
Thu, 07/19/2018 – 15:08……. #448
Or maybe, just a simple mistake.
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Yeah whatever.
I was just replying to mortuus
EDIT : oh, and if it was just a mistake because the user manual was copied from the GT… How do you explain the “17W 4,5A” part ? I doubt that the GT is only 17W…
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Yep, your right; whatever. Lie or mistake we will never know for sure. All we know for sure now is…… it is what it is.
I have no explanation at all for the “ “17W 4,5A” part”. I’m just going with the mistake story rather than the liar one.
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I guess
This is a problem with the internal work of Lumintop
This user manual is probably not written by LUMINTOP. (?)
Just like GT, it is written by BLF members.
When Lumintop is getting stronger and stronger
The organization and division of labor within the company should be more detailed.
Sorry for my poor english.
Yeah I quite know how they work… I’ve done some translation for them, user manuals mostly.
They kept promise me a GT for review… I’ve never got it. And of course, I never had other models to review since this. Basically I worked for free.
Yet I trusted them once more for the GT mini…
I don’t know why it doesn’t work, I’ve been doing this for Olight For 3 years now, never had a problem.
"-X3-, is there any place in your house without a flashlight ?"
My Flashlight public album (mods, emitter swaps, eye candy)
My reviews channel (French language, Olight, Thorfire, Sofirn, Lumintop : 60+ lights tested)
My personal channel (including Olight SR mini, S1, S2, S1A and S-mini disassembly)
M4DM4X blog, saves you $$$
“Worked for free…”
Interesting, the definition of work must be eluding me. And here all this time I thought it was mattaus, wight, comychair, warhawk, toykeeper, rmm, del and their like that were doing all the heavy lifting around here…
back to topic please
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Hmm I notice this right now. Is that fet+1 will have some turbo timer for example 45 sec to 60 sec ?
It’s NarsilM. It has all that good stuff.
You can have a timer if you want or you can set it to a custom temperature. That’s what I prefer.
I’m not sure what they will choose as default.
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There’s no mechanical tail switch here, right?
I’m beginning to wonder why all the side switch lights use the electronic switch… essentially this leaves full power running up to the emitter at all times in a “sleep” mode when off. Have I forgotten why a mini Omten isn’t used as a side switch, breaking the positive flow instead of the usual negative interruption? Was just thinking, probably dangerous I know….
Correct
With a mechanical side switch, like in the Little Dipper series, you can’t use the press and hold for ramping. You would be limited to the tail clicky UI’s.
With the e-switch you do get some parasitic drain since the MCU needs to monitor the switch circuit, but usually that drain is very low like on the Q8 and GT. For a light sitting on a shelf most of the time I just turn the tail cap to break the circuit. No worries of drain then.
I do remember hearing of a ramping UI that used a clicky switch. You would half press to start it ramping then another half press to stop it. I recall they said it was pretty clunky to use. It might have been from ToyKeeper
or Tom E.Texas Ace Lumen Tube and JoshK Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights
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The Firmware is from Toykeeper
Crescendo
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/sandbox/files...
“So I’ve been making a ramping UI for clicky lights.”
Thanks Jason, that is indeed what I was forgetting…. loves me some ramping so if a UI features ramping then I reckon a mech clicky is out.
Is there any switch circuitry that is so efficient it uses less than the power than the self discharging rate of the battery?
Yes, it already exists in the BLF Q8 and BLF GT, and Emisar lights.
My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
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I thought so. So what cons are there since it doesn’t drain any power?
It’s not switch circuitry, it’s driver circuitry.
I think the parasitic drain on the 3 lights mentioned (with switch leds turned off) are a bit higher than the self discharging rate of the battery. It would still take years to fully discharge.
Not too many. Some people just like certain things.
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Are there any plans to provide the light as host or at least without the LED if the user wants to use a different LED?
Current Collection:
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Certain drivers have ultra low electronic switch parasitic drain. Only a few though. If one is planning to use a different driver then things change, parasitic drains can become quite large.
I asked because I may be changing the driver in my GT mini and it may be preferable due to the UI for me to use a mechanical switch. The SS ring around the rubber boot is press fit in the GT mini, not recommended to remove it and I’m sure it wouldn’t be easy to do, might even be loose upon trying to reassemble. Still though, it may be possible to approach the situation from another angle….
like the uncomfortable question still unanswered, i wanna know finally is the shipment for EU/GER Customers accomplished??
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No, you can read here on last messages : http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60983
what do you mean, they ship worldwide ?
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Yes they ship ww, what is problem ?
Thanks..
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What “uncomfortable question still unanswered” are you referring to??
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