Maxtoch XSWORD L2K - another laser thrower

Stumbled onto this earlier - http://www.maxtoch.com/xsword-l2k-2000-meters-ultra-thrower-p00065p1.html

Looks like laser lights are going to be the new thing for throwers now another manufacturer has joined in.

Very little out there regarding this light at the moment, not a clue how much it costs but it’s certainly got my interest up even if just to see how the technology develops.

500 lumens. :+1:
And aspheric again.
I got a hunch that lens might be a better pick than a reflector for some reason.

ADDED:
Runs for 2 hours on a pair of 18650 batteries. That’s 11 W average power consumption. 45 lm/W. Suspiciously high…
ADDED2: 55 lm/W at low.

500 lumens is definitely more imterestimg than Acebeams 200 lumen. But why is the bram green? Yuck! :confounded:

Because they have the green filter on it for those beemahots.

Oh thank god! Then this is definitely going to be on my purchase list.

wait until you see the price

Pretty sure Maxtorch will be be MUCH cheaper than Acebeam :laughing:

Yes, I hope so, too.

How is Maxtoch’s brand overall quality? Are they more of a budget or high end brand? I like their “shooter” models, but never bought one.

Maxtoch is a very under-rated brand. I have one and you’ll be surprised its quality and workmanship is at least at par, if not better, than the other major brands.

From what I’ve seen about this the regular beam is very warm tinted.

It’s great to see another LEP light.

I have a Maxtoch 2X shooter, the craftsmanship is great for the price.

Why dont they use for example XPL-HI, or XHP35 emitters instead of the older ones? If the shooter was made with 35-HI, 2000+ lumens, i would consider buying one. Also are there any deals on this brand? I see them listed only on Ali.

There was a model with xpl hi, M12 I think it was, I picked it up on a group buy last year

Edit-this is it http://maxtoch.com/mission-m12-xp-l-hi-p00049p1.html

I read that entire web page top to bottom, twice, and never saw any reference to a laser source, nor any reference at all to what actually powers it. Latest focusing BEAM using a military grade aspheric with dual side coatings, but no mention at all of laser or LED.

Interesting.

Some more calculations…
2000 m throw = 1 Mcd.
60 mm head, let’s assume 56 mm lens diameter. It needs emitter with 500+ cd/mm² to throw so far.
Even Blackie with collar won’t give you that.
From memory, the emitter that supposedly Acebeam uses does 400 cd/mm².

This may be another indication of somewhat inflated performance.
What is track record of Maxtoch when it comes to delivering the promised numbers?

I have the blf edition. Pretty true to spec i would say

The Black Flat should get up to around 540cd/mm^2 with the collar, but only with perfect heatsinking. You also need more than 11W, maybe around 16-18W.

All the speculation, so funny. I’ve had a sliced SST-40 doing over 1Mcd…

Agro? How do you establish 11W consumption? They do state that they use a pair of 3500mAh cells, but they do not state what the emitter is or if it’s a laser, so how do you know what voltage the light is operating under? Just curious… 2 hours on 8.4V at 3500mAh would, I guess, be about 1750mA per hour at 8.4V supply… after that I’m lost. lol