OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²

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Much appreciated.

Just as I thought when I compared to KD’s mcpcb. Confirms that mine aren’t dtp for the Osram red, I’ll reflow one to the KD board. It’ll be great if I can drive them harder.

They’re currently on 3535 so using 3030 may improve too

I was going to buy Convoy’s newly added 3030 boards but can’t tell by photo if really dtp?

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I was going to buy Convoy's newly added 3030 boards but can't tell by photo if really dtp?

I really doubt Simon has any interest in run-of-the-mill boards. Had to look: 20mm DTP copper board for 3030 LED / for osram KW...

Pretty explicit. 

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Barkuti wrote:

While reflowing tap the emitter with a cotton bud Funtastic, this removes excess solder.

What he said, This method is excellent.

The led4power dtps are nice quality! a good flat fit to the host with some grizzly kryonaut and you’re pretty well sorted.

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The boost version of the 2mm? is available here but needs reflowing to DTP

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Funtastic wrote:
The boost version of the 2mm? is available here but needs reflowing to DTP

I ordered from here last week but until they arrive I will remain skeptical

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The boost version of the 2mm? is available "here":https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001162805115.html but needs reflowing to DTP

 

We have waited two years for this LED to finally become available! Supposedly the ultimate thrower LED.

Interestingly, the SBT-90.2 which became available in the meantime is a better fit for many larger lights.

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Funtastic wrote:
The boost version of the 2mm? is available here but needs reflowing to DTP

 


We have waited two years for this LED to finally become available! Supposedly the ultimate thrower LED.


Interestingly, the SBT-90.2 which became available in the meantime is a better fit for many larger lights.

Party I hope it will not be to hungry…
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That “HX” from AE (YinDing) seems off. What’s with the exposed gray portion next to the die? Also, their other white flat listings have unusual markings on the surrounding white areas of the package.

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That “HX” from AE (YinDing) seems off. What’s with the exposed gray portion next to the die? Also, their other white flat listings have unusual markings on the surrounding white areas of the package.

I’m using their red flats and they’re legit

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I would guess preliminary version of LED (is why it looks different)

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I got here 2 flashlights with supposedly Osram NM1 LEDs

Both have some letter markings on top of the LED, but one of them also has a grey bar on the side (while the other does not).
Is there any difference?

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Why do you think they call it LED lottery? You are supposed to scratch it off and see if you win!

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no idea

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As contactr mentioned earlier. I’m presuming this is a pre-production or engineering sample type marking..

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Another 2 flashlights with Osram, one has the gray bar, the other doesn’t.

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Another 2 flashlights with Osram, one has the gray bar, the other doesn’t.

!https://i.imgur.com/nGCseAG.png!

Any specs?
The right one seems to be the CULPM1;which is the higher current version of CSLPM1.TG. There aren’t too many manufacturers around which use them

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They look the same size to me. isn’t the CULPM1 the 2mm version?

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Yokiamy wrote:
d_t_a wrote:
Another 2 flashlights with Osram, one has the gray bar, the other doesn’t.

!https://i.imgur.com/nGCseAG.png!

Any specs?
The right one seems to be the CULPM1;which is the higher current version of CSLPM1.TG. There aren’t too many manufacturers around which use them

Both flashlights are the same model: Manta Ray S21 with Osram NM1 LED (supposedly) – one has a gray bar, the other does not. The Manta Ray S21 uses a 2.8Amp (7135×8) driver, but the UI is sort of different (it seems to be related in terms of configuration as the Convoy C8+ SST40 ‘ramping’ driver version).

In my other set of Osram NM1 photos, one is a Wainlight C8S-G with Osram NM1 LED (no gray bar), the other is a Boruit C8 with Osram NM1 LED (but has a gray bar). The Boruit C8 and the Wainlight C8S-G look very similar (they use the same flashlight host as the Convoy C8+, but place an Osram NM1 LED and both seem to use a driver that is similar to Convoy’s 5/3-mode group driver (also 7135×8 or 2.8Amps).

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They look the same size to me. isn’t the CULPM1 the 2mm version?

you’re correct

i was thinking about this one
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001162805115.html

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Yokiamy wrote:
HONDARIDER wrote:
They look the same size to me. isn’t the CULPM1 the 2mm version?

you’re correct

i was thinking about this one
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001162805115.html

Wow that’s a good find! You can even buy this soldered onto various size boards down to 11.8mm for use in AAA sized lights!

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CULPM1 also has a 4×4mm pad IIRC (vs 3×3mm on the CS models), isn’t that why it has higher thermal resistance?

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SKV89 wrote:
Yokiamy wrote:
HONDARIDER wrote:
They look the same size to me. isn’t the CULPM1 the 2mm version?

you’re correct

i was thinking about this one
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001162805115.html

Wow that’s a good find! You can even buy this soldered onto various size boards down to 11.8mm for use in AAA sized lights!

Yes, but not on 3030, he uses 3535 and the copper boards aren’t dtp

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BurningPlayd0h, according to my wisdom a bigger footprint equals lower thermal resistance; or it should. 

Kaidomain has both 3030 and 4040 DTP boards for sale, check here:

http://kaidomain.com/Flashlight-DIY-and-Tools/led-pcbs-or-mcpcbs?limit=100

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In the absence of led4power (hope they're back sometime), some way or the other we now have access to all 4 White Flats. The thread should now be renamed to

OSRAM CSLNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG 2mm², CULNM1.TG 1mm², CULPM1.TG 2mm²

or maybe to

OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²

 

Hope Mr luminarium iaculator notices. Is someone going to test the Boost HX? The 2mm² WF is more surface to power constrained, this means the Boost HX should obtain a higher gain than the HL. Sent a PM to djozz…

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Barkuti wrote:

In the absence of led4power (hope they’re back sometime), some way or the other we now have access to all 4 White Flats. The thread should now be renamed to


OSRAM CSLNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG 2mm², CULNM1.TG 1mm², CULPM1.TG 2mm²


or maybe to


OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²


 


Hope Mr luminarium iaculator notices. Is someone going to test the Boost HX? The 2mm² WF is more surface to power constrained, this means the Boost HX should obtain a higher gain than the HL. Sent a PM to djozz…

I did seen and changed… Thumbs Up
I still can’t remember those Osram emitters… It is to complicated to me. Letter and number dizziness Tired

P.S.
First post of this thread requires re-editing with all relevant data. Thread is hard to follow and maybe it is better to read it backward > forward direction.

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Can someone please check my below list for white, red,, blue, and green to see if it’s correct or missing any

Trying to tell Simon what I need

This is the reply I received from Simon when I asked for confirmation that he had CSLPM1.TG, not CSLNM1.TG

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i got some CSLPM1.TG ,these should be green light LED,i will test it

i think you need CULPM1.TG,right?

I’m really not a fan of the way Osram has assigned their part numbers

List I have

White – KW CSLNM1.TG – 3030 (1mm²)
White – KW CSLPM1.TG – 3030 (2mm²)

White – KW CULNM1.TG – 4040 (1mm²)
White – KW CULPM1.TG – 4040 (2mm²)

Red – KR CSLNM1.23 – 3030 (1mm²)

Blue – KB CSLNM1.14 – 3030 (1mm²)

Green – KP CSLNM1.F1 – 3030 (1mm²)
Green – KP CSLPM1.F1 – 3030 (2mm²)

I just want to send this to Simon

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By the way, djozz told me he'll be reviewing the Boost HX for sale @ Shenzhen silver ingot Technology Co., Ltd.

We'll see. djozz told me he received a Boost HX sample way back from Hank, and it performed even worse than the 5P bin CSLPM1.TG he reviewed from Neven (led4power) back then (1480 versus 1530 djozz lumen), despite reaching a higher maximum current at 9A as expected. This means that CULPM1.TG probably was some ugly duckling pre-production sample or God knows what.

Hope those CULPM1.TG emitters are some decent bin, 5P minimum.

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One question, how to tell which way I reflow these leds for their polarity? Twice now I’ve got it wrong.

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Reply from Simon

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White – KW CSLNM1.TG – 3030 (1mm²) in stock
White – KW CSLPM1.TG – 3030 (2mm²) Not purchased

White – KW CULNM1.TG – 4040 (1mm²) Not purchased
White – KW CULPM1.TG – 4040 (2mm²) It has been purchased and the goods are in transit.

Red – KR CSLNM1.23 – 3030 (1mm²) 7L-2-0 200pcs in stock

Blue – KB CSLNM1.14 – 3030 (1mm²) Not purchased

Green – KP CSLNM1.F1 – 3030 (1mm²) 8P-A-0 167pcs in stock
Green – KP CSLPM1.F1 – 3030 (2mm²) 6P-A-0 200pcs in stock

Yellow – KY CSLNM1.FY – 3030 (1mm²) Not purchased

Just thought I’d share in case anyone wants some Red or Green from Convoy since it’s not listed on the store

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One question, how to tell which way I reflow these leds for their polarity? Twice now I’ve got it wrong.

I hope this could help.

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