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Searching for a 26650 light

Hi Guys,

I am searching for a 1×26650 light and I really do not know which one to buy.

Should Sofirn SP33 be a good choice?!?

My wish:
I really like lights with programmable UI like BLF-A6 or Bistro. Are there 26650-lights with such a driver?

The beam of my Sofirn Q8 is too much throw, while Astrolux S41 and Mateminco X6S are too floody / to less spill. So I think I would like a light with a tiny little bit more flood (or spill) than the Sofirn Q8 (maybe BLF Q8 would be perfect) but on 26650 size. Beam of my DQG tiny 26650 III is too floody.

I know that Sofirn SP33 does not have any UI like bistro or A6, but it seems that the actual version is one short click = on/off, what’s much better than “Short click on / Loooong click off”.

So, is this light recommendable for me or are there other, better alternatives?

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Emisar D4S?

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The Emisar D4S is probably the best thing out there.

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Thought that this answer will come… LOL The Emisar is way much more expensive than other lights, and I do not prefer ramping. Isn’t there any other alternative??

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Emisar D4S offers a great many custom features for just $50.
Ramping is just one of the perks of this light.
You can ignore the ramping , switch the mode group and use tactical momentary if you wish.
It blends a massive spill with a wall of light, quite incredible for its size.

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For the Price: How bout Sofirn SP33. Comin up on AliExpress 11-11 Sale @ $20

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Haikelite SC26? I really like mine. I got mine with the HD emitter for a bit more flood. The HI emitter will give a bit of throw. Search for threads and you’ll get an idea about what the beam looks like. It’s about 2000lumens and can be configured for ramping or you can set it for a handful of stepped modes like you were hoping.

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lfowner wrote:
Thought that this answer will come… LOL The Emisar is way much more expensive than other lights, and I do not prefer ramping. Isn’t there any other alternative??

D4S ramping can be turned off so you can use steps instead, and the number of steps (output levels) is configurable as well. It is an awesome light.
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I tried to find one cheaper than the D4s. There were a few on sale, but had some flaw in my opinion. I got the Emisar and I am glad I did. I used it tonight for about an hour. It is not perfect, but the closest I could find. I paid a bit extra for the XML-HI version.

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I’m a little bit afraid that I’ll be disappointed from the D4S like from the Mateminco X6S. The X6S was really not what I’ve expected. And D4S is also an optics-light. Maybe reflector-light should be the better choose for me.

I really like the beam of my BLF-A6, it does look like a perfect allrounder in my eyes, but I want something with more capacity out of one battery and with more comfort in my hand (=26650 seems to be perfect; more thickness would be too much) and much more brightness (in brightness my Sofirn Q8 is just ‘wow’, but it’s too much throw and it’s too thick). And because until now my optics-lights do have an awful beam in my view (X6S) or are only just flooder (S41) my thought was that another optics-light would be a bad choose for me. That’s why I’m asking. And that’s why until now I thought that Sofirn SP33 on 11.11. should be the best choose I can take, as I didn’t found any alternative to it.

In fact Emisar D4S is a really interesting thing – but if I do not like the beam of this TIR-light it would be a really big waste of money for me.

I’ll take a look on the Haikelite as soon as possible.

I’m really, really unsure what to do!

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You want pure flood in a 26650 light, howbow a Cometa? LOL

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Emisar D4s.

In fact, Emisar is the answer to a lot of questions.

They’re that good and inexpensive.

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Grmbl. Facepalm Crying Deep inside I fear that you’re right and the Emisar D4s will be best choice. Facepalm Big Smile
But I will try to save my money-pocket, so at the moment I’m thinking about these three:

- Emisar D4s
- Haikelite SC26
- Sofirn SP33 (which would be the cheapest one)

Any other suggestions or comments?

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Not cheap.
But one I always go back to when I go out in strange lands.

IMALENT DN35. 26650 cell with 1400 high and 2200 Turbo if needed.
Good thrower clean light and plenty of spread.
$140/150ish. But on coupon last yr I turned one over for around $55/60
Including battery, and never regretted it.
It’ll cover all you want to around 150+ mtrs. (it says 250plus.)
But my eyes don’t truly see more than that in the dark. Do yours.
Those tiny rockets are fine on Turbo. for around 59 seconds. then down to 450/600.

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Get a D4S.

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lfowner wrote:
I’m a little bit afraid that I’ll be disappointed from the D4S like from the Mateminco X6S. The X6S was really not what I’ve expected. And D4S is also an optics-light. Maybe reflector-light should be the better choose for me.

I really like the beam of my BLF-A6, it does look like a perfect allrounder in my eyes, but I want something with more capacity out of one battery and with more comfort in my hand (=26650 seems to be perfect; more thickness would be too much) and much more brightness (in brightness my Sofirn Q8 is just ‘wow’, but it’s too much throw and it’s too thick). And because until now my optics-lights do have an awful beam in my view (X6S) or are only just flooder (S41) my thought was that another optics-light would be a bad choose for me. That’s why I’m asking. And that’s why until now I thought that Sofirn SP33 on 11.11. should be the best choose I can take, as I didn’t found any alternative to it.

In fact Emisar D4S is a really interesting thing – but if I do not like the beam of this TIR-light it would be a really big waste of money for me.

Based on everything you wrote, it really sounds like D4S would be a great fit. With XPL HI emitters, it has only slightly more throwiness (TK’s nomenclature, calculated as cd/lumens ) than A6, so it’s a good balance between flood and throw, IMO. Some rough comparison:

A6 throwiness: 7.9 ( 10.2kcd / 1300lm)
D4S throwiness: 10.5 (45kcd / 4300 lm)
Q8 throwiness: 22.6 (106kcd / 4700 lm)

And yeah, a light with a 26650 form factor just sits so nicely in your hand.

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Mhmm. So if I would choose an Emisar D4s, which one should I choose? My biggest fear is that it will be too floody.

BTW: did I remark that I really like the beam of my BLF-A6 and that my fear is that the TIR-optics wouldn’t be a good choice for me? Cool

And that my actual Emisar D4s-choice would be too expensive for me (nearly 80US$)?

- Color – Black (smooth surface)
- Add extra tailcap without magnet – Yes
- Aux LED – Amber (or Green)
- Magnet in the tailcap – Yes
- Led & Tint – Neutral White – XP-L HI V2 3A, 5000K
- Battery – 1 * LiitoKala 5000mAh 26650 cell

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Pete7874 wrote:
A6 throwiness: 7.9 ( 10.2kcd / 1300lm)
D4S throwiness: 10.5 (45kcd / 4300 lm)
Q8 throwiness: 22.6 (106kcd / 4700 lm)

And yeah, a light with a 26650 form factor just sits so nicely in your hand.


Pete, thank you, but is it BLF Q8 or Sofirn Q8?

Would D4s be brighter than Sofirn SP33? I did not find any kind of comparison…

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lfowner wrote:
Mhmm. So if I would choose an Emisar D4s, which one should I choose? My biggest fear is that it will be too floody.

BTW: did I remark that I really like the beam of my BLF-A6 and that my fear is that the TIR-optics wouldn’t be a good choice for me? Cool

You are contradicting yourself. You are afraid D4S will be too floody, yet you like BLF A6 which is pretty darn floody, IMO.
With XPL HI emitters, the D4S will be less floody than BLF A6, but not quite a thrower either.

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- Color – Black (smooth surface)
- Add extra tailcap without magnet – Yes
- Aux LED – Amber (or Green)
- Magnet in the tailcap – Yes
- Led & Tint – Neutral White – XP-L HI V2 3A, 5000K
- Battery – 1 * LiitoKala 5000mAh 26650 cell

That’s pretty much the same as mine, except I have cyan aux LEDs. It’s the most expensive flashlight in my collection, but I don’t have any regrets.
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lfowner wrote:
Pete7874 wrote:
A6 throwiness: 7.9 ( 10.2kcd / 1300lm)
D4S throwiness: 10.5 (45kcd / 4300 lm)
Q8 throwiness: 22.6 (106kcd / 4700 lm)

And yeah, a light with a 26650 form factor just sits so nicely in your hand.


Pete, thank you, but is it BLF Q8 or Sofirn Q8?
Yes, Sofirn Q8.

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Would D4s be brighter than Sofirn SP33? I did not find any kind of comparison…
Based on what I’ve seen, SP33 only puts out about 1500-1600 lm, so D4S should be notably brighter. Granted, D4S cannot sustain max output for very long due to thermal regulation, although that is configurable as well.
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Pete7874 wrote:
You are contradicting yourself. You are afraid D4S will be too floody, yet you like BLF A6 which is pretty darn floody, IMO.
I do not agree. The A6 is not that thrower than the Q8, but in comparison to my S41 it is a thrower! I like it’s deployment between center and spill. Looks quite perfect for me, but not enough lumens stable…
In misty air in the dark all my TIR-lights failed, only lights with reflector are good!

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It’s the most expensive flashlight in my collection, but I don’t have any regrets.
Would not be my most expensive light, that were my Liteflux lights. And some time ago I’ve owned a customized Zip20, worth about 300US$. But sold it, way too much money for an EDC. BLF-A6, Astrolux S41, Sofirn Q8 – I like them all (Sofirn Q8 is a little bit too throwy for me). Don’t like my new Mateminco X6S – also a TIR-optics-flashlight. That’s one reason why I’m afraid of buying an Emisar D4s.
In my thoughts 80$ is too much. I have to think…
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TIR beams tend to be a bit wider, and it sounds like you just prefer the beam from a reflector. A couple other multi-reflector options for you, although not 26650 lights, are the sofirn 21700 C8F, and the sofirn 3×18650 SP36.

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lfowner wrote:

And that my actual Emisar D4s-choice would be too expensive for me (nearly 80US$)?

- Battery – 1 * LiitoKala 5000mAh 26650 cell

Not fair adding the cost of a battery. You will need a battery for any 26650 light.

If you are worried about budget, loose the tail cap magnet.

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EasyB wrote:
TIR beams tend to be a bit wider, and it sounds like you just prefer the beam from a reflector. A couple other multi-reflector options for you, although not 26650 lights, are the sofirn 21700 C8F, and the sofirn 3×18650 SP36.

Yes, thank you, but at the moment I am searching for a 26650-light. I do not really like 21700. So mybe I have to wait until the next BLF-production, as those lights are really very nice! Wink

The SP36 is nothing special to me, it’s “just” a Q8 with only three batteries. I would prefer a one-battery-light as I think I will test it as a potentially gift for others.
One-battery-lights are easier to use, and the Emisar is a little bit too expensive as a gift…
Most of the time I buy lights for myself and than someone sees it and likes it.

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If we are moving away from 26650 there is the Group Buy for the PL47 —-> http://budgetlightforum.com/node/62288

GB ends in a few days.

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Andrew_Debbie wrote:
Not fair adding the cost of a battery. You will need a battery for any 26650 light.

If you are worried about budget, loose the tail cap magnet.


With the battery you are right, but without the magnet the light is loosing one speciality.

And, Andrew, the firefly is TIr again and it’s 90 degrees. No no no…

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How about the ThruNite TC20?

It is $71.96 after 20% coupon, and it includes a battery. The coupon code is “20%”

Highlights:

  • It has an XHP 70.2 emitter
  • Built-in recharger
  • Turbo is 3800 lumens
  • High is 1800 lumens
  • Throw is 320 meters
  • 5000mAh 26650 battery included
  • Excellent heat management.
  • USB charging cord included

Some good reviews:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/59577
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58555

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Pete7874 wrote:
Based on what I’ve seen, SP33 only puts out about 1500-1600 lm, so D4S should be notably brighter. Granted, D4S cannot sustain max output for very long due to thermal regulation, although that is configurable as well.

The SP33s shipping now have an XHP 50.2 and higher output. They claim 2,500lm.

I have one on the way.

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Emisar D4S. It’s a game changing light: So compact. So bright. So configurable.

Excellent flood and surprisingly good throw.

If you can spring for the extra cost, I recommend getting the Cree XP-L HI V2 3A (5000K) emitters.

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lfowner wrote:
Hi Guys,

I am searching for a 1×26650 light and I really do not know which one to buy.

Take a look also at JKK70

also has “Short click on / Loooong click off” and in the middle has so much throw light in balance with good flood; at least this is my opinion

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The Last Katun wrote:

Take a look also at JKK70 you, the light does look interesting, but
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also has “Short click on / Loooong click off”
that’s all things that I do NOT want! I don’t like loong click for Off and I do not like Mode-Memory! So: it’s out.

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