I ordered fron Neal 11 days ago, paid full price with no discount for two lights, also paid $10 expedited shipping. No word, of course, on when the may show up…
Wasn’t that long ago, but was just wondering what’s the usual… “lag time”… between ordering and shipping?
Just curious…
There is no normal when it comes to launching a new product. It kinda depends on when the company thinks it will be ready to ship and when they think they should start taking orders. Lumintop in the past has sometimes started taking orders a couple weeks too early (assuming no delays to shipping). It helps them to cover their bills/salaries, etc…, but it’s not too nice for the customer.
I don’t have any background knowledge on this Lumintop product so I’m in the dark. On other Lumintop products they would box up a big batch of lights then it got sent to a 3rd party shipper. Then they would arrange the best way to ship it. Then it took maybe 2 weeks for the tracking info to get back to Neal and for him to send it out to the customers. Maybe this is the situation for the Micro?
Shipping products out of China is a very complex process.
Maybe M4D M4X could ask Neal if they have shipped the first batch yet.
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Yes, bought two of Neal’s gadgets, E07 1 week ago and GTmicro 2.5 weeks ago, both have not been shipped. I guess that it is not Neal who is slow but his suppliers do not deliver. You could question if it is a good idea that he sells stuff that he has no direct control over.
Anyway, as always it comes when it comes
This year, Christmas is every months…
Between the GT Micro, FT03 and FW3A… Man when this packages will show themselves in the mailbox, I’ll mark the day for sure !
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Guess what I just find waiting for me when I got home? It arrived! Along with a Lumintop EDC05C, interesting, because I know I was interested in it but didn't order it, and thought they never made it? Oh boy - I gotta talk to Neal...
Yes, Neal did that to me a few months ago too, with two drivers that I requested came a Mateminco X6S. I did a small review as a thanks, and then found out it was heavily reviewed already
The EDC05C is D-E-D right now, gotta try a charge. Can't see a way to get at the battery - might be the SS tail embedded cap unscrews. Will check it out down in the flashlight lab...
I must have been on FB with Neal talk'n bout it, and just forgot. Think they were gonna release it months ago, then it didn't happen. FB is acting up on me, real slowwwww right now so can't check. I've been interested in the dual LED lights like the SD Mini II which I have running with a special mod to NarsilM and cut/jumpered a driver to separate the 7135 from the FET - it works pretty well now.
EDIT: Ohhh, ok. The EDC05C's tail can unscrew with a regular screw driver or slim coin I suppose - sure enough there was no battery in it. UI works pretty well:
lo/mid/hi on the main LED, plus press&hold from OFF to access a low low
Dbl click from OFF or ON to switch to the side light, then lo/mid/hi on the side panel - pretty bright on a WindyFire 14500
press&hold to turn OFF, clicks to switch thru lo/mid/hi
The bezel is not notched so hope can use friction to unthread the bezel - if so, then should get access to the main LED and driver. Main LED looks like a CW XPL HI, with an OP reflector.
The GT Micro doesn't have a driver spring, but what looks like a button contact - I had one 14500 that couldn't make contact, but the button tops I got worked fine (gold VapCell 1000 mAh, EFEST 650's, etc.). In the tailcap it has the double spring we expect.
I got the NW version and doesn't seem to be a well defined hot spot, but maybe because of the small reflector. Tint is nice, maybe a little heavy on yellow in the corona. Seems like a warmer NW, maybe a 5A/5B/5C or so. The 5D's I got look better, but haven't carefully compared them.5D - comparing the,. looks very much like my 5D's in other lights.
Using a gold Vapcell 1000 mAh BT at 4.20V:
on max ramp: 1.93 amps, on turbo: 3.3 amps
on max ramp lumens: 586 (TomE) or 516 ANSI, both at start
on turbo lumens, start-15 secs: 1020-945 (TomE), or 900-839 ANSI
throw on turbo: 53 kcd (460 meters) taken at 5 meters
It's a nice look'n little pocket light. The new higher capacity 14500's are a good match. I got 4 of the gold Vapcell 1000's. I'll re-do the tests on a new EFEST 650 BT to compare.
Update:
Using a new EFEST 14500 flat top from MtnE @4.20V, I got much better results. Should be expected because it's rated up to 6.5 amps, plus flat tops are better:
on max ramp: 3.62.6 amps, on turbo: 5.0 amps
on max ramp lumens: 740 (TomE) or 650 ANSI, both at start
on turbo lumens, start-15 secs: 1275-1160 (TomE), or 1125-1020 ANSI
throw on turbo: 62 kcd (498 meters) taken at 5 meters
The Micro is still all stock at this point.
The obvious light to directly compare to is the Emisar D1, being they are similar size and similar head diameter. The D1 has the big advantage of an 18650 cell, but for some reason, I'm getting better throw #'s from the Micro, least what I measured back when I first got the D1 in it's stock setup. It should be noted the Micro has a deep reflector, and the diam/depth ratio seems to match exactly to the GT Mini - fairly narrow compared to most other small lights that dont' have the reflector depth this light has. It's an interesting difference, pretty unique for the Micro in such a small light.
The GT Micro doesn’t have a driver spring, but what looks like a button contact – I had one 14500 that couldn’t make contact, but the button tops I got worked fine (gold VapCell 1000 mAh, EFEST 650’s, etc.). In the tailcap it has the double spring we expect.
I got the NW version and doesn’t seem to be a well defined hot spot, but maybe because of the small reflector. Tint is nice, maybe a little heavy on yellow in the corona. Seems like a warmer NW, maybe a 5A/5B/5C or so. The 5D’s I got look better, but haven’t carefully compared them.
Using a gold Vapcell 1000 mAh BT at 4.20V:
on max ramp: 1.93 amps, on turbo: 3.3 amps
on max ramp lumens: 586 (TomE) or 516 ANSI, both at start
on turbo lumens, start-15 secs: 1020-945 (TomE), or 900-839 ANSI
throw on turbo: 53 kcd (460 meters) taken at 5 meters
It’s a nice look’n little pocket light. The new higher capacity 14500’s are a good match. I got 4 of the gold Vapcell 1000’s. I’ll re-do the tests on a new EFEST 650 BT to compare.
Update:
Using a new EFEST 14500 flat top from MtnE @4.20V, I got much better results. Should be expected because it’s rated up to 6.5 amps, plus flat tops are better:
on max ramp: 3.6 amps, on turbo: 5.0 amps
on max ramp lumens: 740 (TomE) or 650 ANSI, both at start
on turbo lumens, start-15 secs: 1275-1160 (TomE), or 1125-1020 ANSI
throw on turbo: 62 kcd (498 meters) taken at 5 meters
Those 1000 mAh cells are sold under different brands I believe. Went nuts last night trying to find where/when I ordered these from, I think I have 4, definite 3 on hand.
Jon on Liionwholsale has them here though. The SANYO 840 mAh 14500's have been around a long time. I got a bunch but they are old, still expensive to buy - Richard sells them.
I tried to get cells from Liion Wholesale yesterday and the shipping rstes were ridiculous! Cancelled out and went over to IMRBattery where cell prices were a little higher but shipping was only $5.99 UPS Ground. Ordered yesterday and they will be here today.
I saw those 1000mAh Vapcells but current was so low they didn’t interest me at all. IMR was sold out on the Purple Efest 14500’s.
Yea, something happened with Liionwholesale shipping costs - agree, they are ridiculous now - for me, $7.50 for qty 4 of 14500's. Illumn, same order, shipping is $5, and they are west coast.
They'll be losing some biz for sure. For me, orders would have to be big with them.
Comparing Illumn vs. Liionwholesale for qty 4 Vapcell 14500's, $19 for Illumn, $24 for Liionwholesale. For these, Illumn is cheaper on the batts, cheaper on shipping.
Kewl. I was under the impression they were regular stock, not released in batches. A’ight, kewl. I’ll await most patiently…
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There is no normal when it comes to launching a new product. It kinda depends on when the company thinks it will be ready to ship and when they think they should start taking orders. Lumintop in the past has sometimes started taking orders a couple weeks too early (assuming no delays to shipping). It helps them to cover their bills/salaries, etc…, but it’s not too nice for the customer.
I don’t have any background knowledge on this Lumintop product so I’m in the dark. On other Lumintop products they would box up a big batch of lights then it got sent to a 3rd party shipper. Then they would arrange the best way to ship it. Then it took maybe 2 weeks for the tracking info to get back to Neal and for him to send it out to the customers. Maybe this is the situation for the Micro?
Shipping products out of China is a very complex process.
Maybe M4D M4X could ask Neal if they have shipped the first batch yet.
Texas Ace Lumen Tube and JoshK Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights
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Wellp, I like the bunny. so…
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Hi.
Got shipping notice from Neal today.
2 pcs + 2 batteries incoming with DHL.
Mine shipped too
Sweeeet!
Any updates on this? I still haven’t gotten a shipping email
I love my wife’s toy poodle
Mine’s still listed as “unfulfilled”.
It might need therapy sometime soon.
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One day, perhaps soon, you can charge your poor little unfulfilled Micro’s spirit and it will SOAR!
(especially if you swap in a White Flat, just sayin…)
Yes, bought two of Neal’s gadgets, E07 1 week ago and GTmicro 2.5 weeks ago, both have not been shipped. I guess that it is not Neal who is slow but his suppliers do not deliver. You could question if it is a good idea that he sells stuff that he has no direct control over.
Anyway, as always it comes when it comes
link to djozz tests
Christmas surprises throughout the year!
“Ding Dong! Package for DBC. “
“For me? Oh I shouldn’t have!”
Unfulfilled also
This year, Christmas is every months…
Between the GT Micro, FT03 and FW3A… Man when this packages will show themselves in the mailbox, I’ll mark the day for sure !
"-X3-, is there any place in your house without a flashlight ?"
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I emailed Neal over the weekend about mine, he apologized for the delay, said it was pre-order and it will ship tomorrow.
I got notification that my Micro’s shipped, along with a tracking number.
Guess what I just find waiting for me when I got home? It arrived! Along with a Lumintop EDC05C, interesting, because I know I was interested in it but didn't order it, and thought they never made it? Oh boy - I gotta talk to Neal...
This is all I could not on it, twitter: https://twitter.com/lumintop/status/1022791799192973314
Anyways, back to the micro - wow, it's small!!
seems you got a gift
all new deals are also posted here: deals.m4dm4x.com
if you do not find what you are looking for :
ask MARTIN@M4DM4X.COM - i will save you money!
Yes, Neal did that to me a few months ago too, with two drivers that I requested came a Mateminco X6S. I did a small review as a thanks, and then found out it was heavily reviewed already
But that looks like a cool little EDC!
link to djozz tests
@TomE
let me know what you think
all new deals are also posted here: deals.m4dm4x.com
if you do not find what you are looking for :
ask MARTIN@M4DM4X.COM - i will save you money!
The EDC05C is D-E-D right now, gotta try a charge. Can't see a way to get at the battery - might be the SS tail embedded cap unscrews. Will check it out down in the flashlight lab...
I must have been on FB with Neal talk'n bout it, and just forgot. Think they were gonna release it months ago, then it didn't happen. FB is acting up on me, real slowwwww right now so can't check. I've been interested in the dual LED lights like the SD Mini II which I have running with a special mod to NarsilM and cut/jumpered a driver to separate the 7135 from the FET - it works pretty well now.
EDIT: Ohhh, ok. The EDC05C's tail can unscrew with a regular screw driver or slim coin I suppose - sure enough there was no battery in it. UI works pretty well:
The bezel is not notched so hope can use friction to unthread the bezel - if so, then should get access to the main LED and driver. Main LED looks like a CW XPL HI, with an OP reflector.
The GT Micro doesn't have a driver spring, but what looks like a button contact - I had one 14500 that couldn't make contact, but the button tops I got worked fine (gold VapCell 1000 mAh, EFEST 650's, etc.). In the tailcap it has the double spring we expect.
I got the NW version and doesn't seem to be a well defined hot spot, but maybe because of the small reflector. Tint is nice, maybe a little heavy on yellow in the corona. Seems like a warmer NW, maybe a 5A/5B/5C or so. The 5D's I got look better, but haven't carefully compared them. 5D - comparing the,. looks very much like my 5D's in other lights.
Using a gold Vapcell 1000 mAh BT at 4.20V:
It's a nice look'n little pocket light. The new higher capacity 14500's are a good match. I got 4 of the gold Vapcell 1000's. I'll re-do the tests on a new EFEST 650 BT to compare.
Update:
Using a new EFEST 14500 flat top from MtnE @4.20V, I got much better results. Should be expected because it's rated up to 6.5 amps, plus flat tops are better:
The Micro is still all stock at this point.
The obvious light to directly compare to is the Emisar D1, being they are similar size and similar head diameter. The D1 has the big advantage of an 18650 cell, but for some reason, I'm getting better throw #'s from the Micro, least what I measured back when I first got the D1 in it's stock setup. It should be noted the Micro has a deep reflector, and the diam/depth ratio seems to match exactly to the GT Mini - fairly narrow compared to most other small lights that dont' have the reflector depth this light has. It's an interesting difference, pretty unique for the Micro in such a small light.
Cool Tom, glad to see it came in (with surprises)
Mine should be here Friday…
Great review, excited to receive mine…
I hadn’t heard about those before. It sounds really promising!
I like the form factor of 14500 lights, but the low-mAh batteries are a drawback. So it’s nice to hear about higher capacities being made.
Those 1000 mAh cells are sold under different brands I believe. Went nuts last night trying to find where/when I ordered these from, I think I have 4, definite 3 on hand.
Jon on Liionwholsale has them here though. The SANYO 840 mAh 14500's have been around a long time. I got a bunch but they are old, still expensive to buy - Richard sells them.
* Ahh - found it! I ordered qty 3 of the VapCell's from illumn back in December, here: https://www.illumn.com/14500-vapcell-icr14500-1000mah-3a-high-discharge.html
I tried to get cells from Liion Wholesale yesterday and the shipping rstes were ridiculous! Cancelled out and went over to IMRBattery where cell prices were a little higher but shipping was only $5.99 UPS Ground. Ordered yesterday and they will be here today.
I saw those 1000mAh Vapcells but current was so low they didn’t interest me at all. IMR was sold out on the Purple Efest 14500’s.
High capacity is good for running at lower power levels, but for Turbo on the Micro you might want the high drains.
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Yea, something happened with Liionwholesale shipping costs - agree, they are ridiculous now - for me, $7.50 for qty 4 of 14500's. Illumn, same order, shipping is $5, and they are west coast.
They'll be losing some biz for sure. For me, orders would have to be big with them.
Comparing Illumn vs. Liionwholesale for qty 4 Vapcell 14500's, $19 for Illumn, $24 for Liionwholesale. For these, Illumn is cheaper on the batts, cheaper on shipping.
Just got my shipping confirmation from Neal… pretty excited. I ordered the CW version; think this will be a fun light to carry around.
Still unfulfilled as of this afternoon…
Weh mir, oh weh…
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