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Thumbs Up …. Thank you – X3 -, that is the UI chart I am using. I cannot get the 10 ‘short clicks’ (or more) to do what is written in the chart. Facepalm

I am stumped, but will keep trying…….


The “short clicks” are just normal half clicks that you usually do to change modes.
You’ve got to be quite quick to make them though
Yeah, that is what I am doing for the “short” clicks – X3 – ….. it is just not working as the sheet says.

It may be I am doing something wrong…. but if I am, I cannot figure out what it is.

I’m gonna give it a rest for a few hours & come back to it to see if I have any better luck.

I have never had this type trouble with any UI before….. Facepalm

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Interesting. I have the exact same M1 setup, and it didn’t take me more than an hour of finagling to set it up. These tips may help:

To get to config, I just half-click until the light stops immediately lighting up. That’s the cue. And since mine is the “faster” early batch, I don’t count how many times it flashes when selecting modes – counting the lulls inbetween is much easier.

Really hope you come to an understanding with your M1, teacher, it’s a sweet piece of kit Smile

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I had similar problem once. I could not get into configuration mode. Probably bad flash or some other hardware issue.

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Interesting. I have the exact same M1 setup, and it didn’t take me more than an hour of finagling to set it up. These tips may help:

To get to config, I just half-click until the light stops immediately lighting up. That’s the cue. And since mine is the “faster” early batch, I don’t count how many times it flashes when selecting modes – counting the lulls inbetween is much easier.

Really hope you come to an understanding with your M1, teacher, it’s a sweet piece of kit Smile

Ok… I do the ‘half clicks’ but the light never “stops lighting up”. It makes no difference whether I do 10, 15, 20, 30, (or any number in between) “half clicks” the light never “stops lighting”. Facepalm

And yes, I really do know how to do a half click. Wink

This is the only UI I have ever had a problem with. And it is supposed to be a fairly simple one really.

I am thinking it has to be a firmware problem.

I only got this light because it was on sale & I wanted to check out the Biscotti firmware to see if it was suitable for a ‘non light’ person. Big Smile Big Smile

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I had similar problem once. I could not get into configuration mode. Probably bad flash or some other hardware issue.
What did you do to solve your issue?? Replace the driver.

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That’s rough. You may need a new driver, or to re-flash this one.

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That’s rough. You may need a new driver, or to re-flash this one.
That’s all I can come up with at this point. Smile

Thanks for the responses to the ‘cry for help’…. Thumbs Up

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Seems that your driver is malfunctioning…
You may have to replace it, maybe contact Simon ?

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Seems that your driver is malfunctioning…
You may have to replace it, maybe contact Simon ?
I think you are correct – X3 -. I am gonna contact Simon & see if he will send me another driver. Probably order a host or two while I am at it also. Wink

Again, thanks to everyone for trying to help sort this out. Thumbs Up

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I think Simons strategy here is brilliant – these are superb hosts, and it makes economic sense to simply keep upgrading the drivers and emitters. Constantly changing styling, simply for its own sake, is expensive and unnecessary. Just ask Olight.

I’ll choose function (and value) over form every time. Convoy lights just work!

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I think Simons strategy here is brilliant – these are superb hosts, and it makes economic sense to simply keep upgrading the drivers and emitters. Constantly changing styling, simply for its own sake, is expensive and unnecessary. Just ask Olight.

I’ll choose function (and value) over form every time. Convoy lights just work!


WORD. It also has two advantages: it makes the line timeless, and most of the hosts can pretty much be made on a lathe alone. Even the new ones.

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I put a lighted reverse clickie in mine and forgot that I can’t program it with one of those. No way to do a half click from off.

At least my memory is on!

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
I think Simons strategy here is brilliant – these are superb hosts, and it makes economic sense to simply keep upgrading the drivers and emitters. Constantly changing styling, simply for its own sake, is expensive and unnecessary. Just ask Olight.

I’ll choose function (and value) over form every time. Convoy lights just work!

Well said!! I totally agree…. Thumbs Up

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My Biscotti update. It was for sure the driver that was screwed up on my M1.

I got a C8+ today (another ‘good deal’ Facepalm ) that has Biscotti & the UI works exactly as it is supposed to. First time, every time. . Thumbs Up

Very glad to know I was not loosing my touch or… my mind. . Wink

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There was a buggy batch of Biscotti drivers where everything ran twice as fast as it should, i.e. short half-presses were really short, so it was hard to configure.

Drivers with that behaviour still crop up from time to time, so I have a nasty feeling some of them got mixed into Simon’s general stock before he could pull them.

Fortunately, Simon will be happy to send you a replacement driver.

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Phlogiston wrote:
There was a buggy batch of Biscotti drivers where everything ran twice as fast as it should, i.e. short half-presses were really short, so it was hard to configure.

Drivers with that behaviour still crop up from time to time, so I have a nasty feeling some of them got mixed into Simon’s general stock before he could pull them.

Fortunately, Simon will be happy to send you a replacement driver.


I have those “defective” drivers on my M1 (yay, relevant post!) and newer S2. I find them to be the perfect speed for me – the “correct” drivers take forever to get to the mode group that I want Sick

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Jack Kellar wrote:
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There was a buggy batch of Biscotti drivers where everything ran twice as fast as it should, i.e. short half-presses were really short, so it was hard to configure. Drivers with that behaviour still crop up from time to time, so I have a nasty feeling some of them got mixed into Simon’s general stock before he could pull them. Fortunately, Simon will be happy to send you a replacement driver.
I have those “defective” drivers on my M1 (yay, relevant post!) and newer S2. I find them to be the perfect speed for me – the “correct” drivers take forever to get to the mode group that I want

Now it makes sense, I found that the 4*7135 Biscotti that I bought few months ago were really fast. I prefer that but you got to be reactive to use it for sure

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Not totally relevant, but in addition to the M1 &M2, Convoy briefly offered an L1 that used either 1 or 2 18650s (with the included extension) and ran an LD29 driver. The head is a bit bigger than the M1, and the reflector is deeper. The tube handles two protected 18650b’s with ease, with a plunger tailcap and a tail switch that takes serious thumb power to activate.

I don’t know why they dropped it, except that it might have been too expensive to build or fit in with their product line. I have one, and it’s a tank! It’s another whole level of build quality over the M2, and I see the M2 as outstanding.

If you ever come across an L1 in good shape, don’t pass it up. I know for sure I’ll be upgrading drivers and emitters in this one for years to come.

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Many users have the new Convoy M1 and M2 torches. I also have it Smile
On the weekend I will try to compare the old and new version as I did with Convoy s2+ . I hope you will want to see the video Smile

Left old one, right new.

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Diodek.pl wrote:
Many users have the new Convoy M1 and M2 torches. I also have it Smile
On the weekend I will try to compare the old and new version as I did with Convoy s2+ . I hope you will want to see the video Smile

Left old one, right new.

Convoy M1

Convoy M2


Don’t forget to mention that you can also request a Nichia 219C upon purchase too, yes?

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Yes, or even an SST-20 for maximum throw potential Big Smile

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Yes, or even an SST-20 for maximum throw potential Big Smile
do tell… hmm interest piqued
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Well, the SST-20 is about 30% throwier on average per lumen compared to the XP-L HI.

So, with something like an Convoy C8(65kcd+), since efficiency of the XP-L HI is about the same as the SST-20 5000k, the SST-20 would be easily making 85kcd+ without any change whatsoever.

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Don’t forget to mention that you can also request a Nichia 219C upon purchase too, yes?

With Nichia, it’s probably only when you talk to Simon. I do not see this option in the default selection. That’s what you mean ?

Can someone recommend a shop with a cheap Luminus SST-20 ? I think I will need one to buy for the test Smile

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Hey.

First video – Convoy M1 comparison (old and new version)

  • Short review
  • Outside test
  • Beamshot

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No English subtitles at least?

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Sorry, translation of the whole film is impossible for me. I will try to write about the differences on my site, diodek.pl and then you can use a translator to read it. I invite you to watch from this moment https://youtu.be/6mGzuOswo4k?t=590
I apologize for the inconvenience.

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Hi.
M2 comparison here. You have a field test video under this link.

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Yes, or even an SST-20 for maximum throw potential Big Smile

BlueSword…
Ok, I want max punch/throw.. M1 or M2…? and request an SST-20?

I appreciate your guidance

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Yes, or even an SST-20 for maximum throw potential Big Smile

BlueSword…
Ok, I want max punch/throw.. M1 or M2…? and request an SST-20?

I appreciate your guidance


Definitely the M1. It has a wider head and bigger reflector, so the spot is tighter. The M2 is more on the floody side.

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Yep… the M1 is one of my all time favorite lights!! I prefer it hands down to the M2. To me the M1 looks better too. Thumbs Up

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