[4K Review] Fitorch P25 "Little Fatty" - HOW NOT TO CARRY IT!!!

30 posts / 0 new
Last post
The_Flashaholic
The_Flashaholic's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 23 hours ago
Joined: 04/05/2017 - 12:46
Posts: 1213
Location: Wakefield
[4K Review] Fitorch P25 "Little Fatty" - HOW NOT TO CARRY IT!!!

Does the UI ruin a potential classic?

My 4K Lumen Whore Reviews (MS18, X70, MS12, DX80, X80-GT, X45vn etc) - http://www.youtube.com/c/FLASHAHOLIC_TV

ollywood
Offline
Last seen: 57 min 24 sec ago
Joined: 07/20/2016 - 18:08
Posts: 48
Location: Germany

Thanks for the nice and funny review….now I am even more excited about the little fatty, I have ordered one too…

The_Flashaholic
The_Flashaholic's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 23 hours ago
Joined: 04/05/2017 - 12:46
Posts: 1213
Location: Wakefield

I can imagine it’ll be one of the biggest selling lights of 2019.

I just wish it had Narsil or a generic UI.

My 4K Lumen Whore Reviews (MS18, X70, MS12, DX80, X80-GT, X45vn etc) - http://www.youtube.com/c/FLASHAHOLIC_TV

xevious
xevious's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 hours 25 min ago
Joined: 02/27/2013 - 21:55
Posts: 2409
Location: Hoboken, NJ USA

Flashaholics wrote:
I can imagine it’ll be one of the biggest selling lights of 2019.

I just wish it had Narsil or a generic UI.


Agreed. I’m finding that these oddly proprietary UI’s become annoying after a while. I always have to “acclimate” myself to my Nitecore EA4, having to “half press” to ON and accidentally hit turbo with a full press on my first use of the night. And while half press turns it ON, a full press is required to go OFF as further half presses cycle through intensity.

So the P25 seems to have yet another UI flavor that’s rather different. The P25 requires a Full Press+Hold to turn off… and that’s what is used with the EA4 for OFF+Lockout.

Jerommel
Jerommel's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 4 months ago
Joined: 01/04/2014 - 13:18
Posts: 6380
Location: the Hague, Netherlands

Yeah, it can get a little confusing sometimes, when you have various e-switch lights…

Still waiting on my ‘little fatty’..

Lightbringer
Lightbringer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 10 min ago
Joined: 08/30/2016 - 14:12
Posts: 15492
Location: nyc

Oh, I though the ‘Li’l Fatso” was the Haikelite (SC26?).

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

saypat
saypat's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 10 hours ago
Joined: 07/13/2011 - 20:32
Posts: 3579
Location: Calif

Flashaholics wrote:
I can imagine it’ll be one of the biggest selling lights of 2019.

I just wish it had Narsil or a generic UI.

agreed, it would sell a ton with Narsil

chadvone
chadvone's picture
Offline
Last seen: 13 hours 8 min ago
Joined: 08/28/2015 - 23:48
Posts: 1998
Location: Iowa

Great video. Not so great UI

Lexel
Lexel's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 months 1 week ago
Joined: 11/01/2016 - 08:00
Posts: 5895
Location: Germany

Depends if this one would fit a replacement driver
If it has separate switch bord likely, if switch on PCB would need enough interest and proper measurements to make one

H-Q
Offline
Last seen: 3 days 21 hours ago
Joined: 12/17/2019 - 12:52
Posts: 12

How hard would it be to change this execrable UI to Andúril? Anyone out there who could change mine? I could truly love it then

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

Anyone tried replacing the driver?

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

G0OSE
G0OSE's picture
Offline
Last seen: 20 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 09/03/2014 - 12:34
Posts: 2278
Location: UK SW

Unheard wrote:
Anyone tried replacing the driver?

I’d be interested too, the ui is just awful – especially as it’s in some ways the reverse of anduril lol!
I double click and strobes come on when I’m expecting full beam lol, then I press to switch off and it changes modes……makes me look a right muggle lol!
I know, I’m old , dumb and used to Anduril now….. I’d love one in there though with aux if poss, there is loads of room!
Mines actually Boruit, but it’s identical.
Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

Switching it directly to low from off means guessing when to release the button. And it takes too long, same for switching it off. OTOH, the locator and voltage indicator are nice features. Keeping them would probably mean editing the source code. Still interested.

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

G0OSE
G0OSE's picture
Offline
Last seen: 20 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 09/03/2014 - 12:34
Posts: 2278
Location: UK SW

As it already has an e switch, theoretically you could put a fw3a driver in, in some kind of holder – not the easiest thing to work on though being inside….. that part sadly doesn’t unscrew and the driver does look like it’ll easily pop out – it looks just a push fit.
Where can you get a driver though lol – anyone got a spare!?
Also I’m disliking these green tinged leds too, more and more as time goes on and I get other lights with nice tints…

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

SST-20 are a very good match for the P25. Much less light (not exactly visible, but I measured only under 1800 lm), but more range. I find it adds the throw I missed from this flashlight.

And the colors are so nice (I got the LEDs from int’l outdoors iirc) …

AWB:

Left: P25, SST-20@4000K, right: C8, XHP50.2@6500K

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

I only now noticed that the red aux LED flashes on high even with fully loaded battery. On approx 3,8V, it flashes rapidly. Is resistance so much lower in SST-20’s that voltage goes down below lower limits?

Hope it will be solved when I got my 26650 extension(*). Not sure.

*) still need a holster for P25 w/ extension. Any recommendations?

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

Thro
Thro's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 9 hours ago
Joined: 12/16/2017 - 01:55
Posts: 205
Location: Belgium

Unheard wrote:
I only now noticed that the red aux LED flashes on high even with fully loaded battery. On approx 3,8V, it flashes rapidly. Is resistance so much lower in SST-20’s that voltage goes down below lower limits?

Hope it will be solved when I got my 26650 extension(*). Not sure.

*) still need a holster for P25 w/ extension. Any recommendations?

i use the sofirn sp33 or convoy C8 holster for my P25 26650

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

Thank you, I even have one C8 holster at home! Thumbs Up

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

deleted-200707
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 2 months ago
Joined: 12/16/2015 - 13:27
Posts: 1640
Location: mod-X

G0OSE wrote:
Unheard wrote:
Anyone tried replacing the driver?

I’d be interested too, the ui is just awful – especially as it’s in some ways the reverse of anduril lol!
I double click and strobes come on when I’m expecting full beam lol, then I press to switch off and it changes modes……makes me look a right muggle lol!

wle
wle's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 28 min ago
Joined: 01/07/2015 - 13:49
Posts: 2454
Location: atlanta ga

i could have read and skimmed a text review for what i wanted to know, in 30 sec
i hate videos
what is the cost
what is this weird UI
what is the battery…:?

wle

"You never have the wind with you - it's either against you, or you're having a good day."
    Daniel Behrman, "The Man Who Loved Bicycles".
It never gets easy, you just go faster.   
-Greg Lemond.
       ,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¸

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

Flashaholics videos are pieces of art. I really enjoy them for what they are. Beside being entertaining and funny (was there a litte Charles parody?), the (to me) most important aspect, the beam, ist well covered.

Thank you, like them a lot Thumbs Up .

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

hank
hank's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 19 hours ago
Joined: 09/04/2011 - 21:52
Posts: 9582
Location: Berkeley, California
Quote:
i could have read and skimmed a text review for what i wanted to know, in 30 sec i hate videos

Yep. Any video not provided with a text transcript, I usually just skip because I have no idea how much of my time it will suck to find any useful facts.
That’s why text helps — I can get a feel for whether it’s worth watching and listening to a video.

But then, I’m a dinosaur. Nobody reads anymore, I understand.

G0OSE
G0OSE's picture
Offline
Last seen: 20 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 09/03/2014 - 12:34
Posts: 2278
Location: UK SW

chinooker wrote:
G0OSE wrote:
Unheard wrote:
Anyone tried replacing the driver?

I’d be interested too, the ui is just awful – especially as it’s in some ways the reverse of anduril lol!
I double click and strobes come on when I’m expecting full beam lol, then I press to switch off and it changes modes……makes me look a right muggle lol!

!https://i.imgur.com/RZiBUaF.gif!

LOL! yeah, that’s about it!
The funny thing is when I take it to bed ( so as not to wake anyone up with lights) , go to switch it off and on come strobes – the wife loves that at 1am!
Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

Using the extension with an unprotected 26650 fixed the voltage warning in my SST-20 P25.

There’s very little space:

No chance a protected cell will fit.

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

Richard Noggin 28
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 03/10/2020 - 14:40
Posts: 20

I love the shape, size & output of this light. The UI is utter shit & would love there to be a way to put Anduril or similar on it.

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

Richard Noggin 28 wrote:
I love the shape, size & output of this light. The UI is utter shit & would love there to be a way to put Anduril or similar on it.

Welcome to the club. There’s a switchboard soldered onto the driver PCB, so no off-the-shelf replacement driver available. I guess customizing the software would require reverse engineering of that driver circuit, and making a new driver assembly will require a too large a number of customers Tired

Someone should ask Fitorch for a BLF P25 version Big Smile

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

G0OSE
G0OSE's picture
Offline
Last seen: 20 hours 14 min ago
Joined: 09/03/2014 - 12:34
Posts: 2278
Location: UK SW

Mines currently having surgery with Dr.CRX to replace it’s poorly led’s which some moron managed to pull the lenses off….. Facepalm Still, I wanted them replaced anyway. 4 X SST 20 4k’s going in.

Unheard
Unheard's picture
Online
Last seen: 12 min 30 sec ago
Joined: 01/16/2019 - 11:38
Posts: 2202
Location: Germany

You’ll love it.

… except for the blinking indicator LEDs Silly Wink

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

FromShadowlands
FromShadowlands's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 days 13 hours ago
Joined: 01/31/2020 - 11:51
Posts: 172
Location: Houston, Texas, USA

Sorry to bring up on old topic but my Little Fatty just arrived today. I’m in love. I wasn’t sure if I’d like it since I have the Manker E14 III, but both serve a purpose.
So I’m keeping them both.

fromshadowlands
U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary Air Station Houston

Sofirn Q8 Pro - Astrolux FT03 - Fenix E16 - ThruNite Catapult Mini - Sofirn SC 31 Pro

https://www.flickr.com/photos/darrenwb/

Thro
Thro's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 9 hours ago
Joined: 12/16/2017 - 01:55
Posts: 205
Location: Belgium
FromShadowlands wrote:
Sorry to bring up on old topic but my Little Fatty just arrived today. I’m in love. I wasn’t sure if I’d like it since I have the Manker E14 III, but both serve a purpose. So I’m keeping them both.

i recomend getting the 26650 tube aswel.
i don’t use/edc mine at the moment, so its in 26650 mode als a dog walking light