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Superstocker wrote:
Simon, Thank you so much for your continued interaction with us. It is much appreciated. I’m looking forward to those 26800 extensions. If I may, what are the odds of getting something like an L2 with a larger head? It could be used to make a compact super thrower with something like one of the Kaidomain 86mm reflector (or something around that size). I’d be very happy with just a new head or adapter for a larger reflector too, if that would work and be more feasible. Single 26800+~90mm reflector sounds awesome to me!

agreed! Battery size / setup don't matter to me, but head size yes! And please a deeper reflector than the 90mm sofirn sp70, so it would have solid range. Honestly, id like to see a Convoy with a 100mm+ head and 3x21700. I just got the WildTrail WT90, but I'd like to see Simon do this but with a Osram CULPM1 option. 

no manufacturer makes a 100mm+ reflector thrower with a Osram, and the appropriate driver (8amp, 5amp for cslnm1). I know maybe most would want a larger led, but I would be very interested in a 100mm head SUPER thrower with an osram, or sft40 .

 

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AUX LEDs are just another thing to go wrong, and difficult to fix. Take a look at the issues with many of the Fireflies models.

They do look amazing when they work…

Completely agree, aux LEDs are not necessary, and just add to cost, failure rate, and require a complex UI. This is the opposite to Convoy lights which are usually cheap, reliable, and simple to use. If users want aux lights there are plenty of lights from Emisar, Noctigon, and Fireflies.
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AUX LEDs are just another thing to go wrong, and difficult to fix. Take a look at the issues with many of the Fireflies models. They do look amazing when they work...
Completely agree, aux LEDs are not necessary, and just add to cost, failure rate, and require a complex UI. This is the opposite to Convoy lights which are usually cheap, reliable, and simple to use. If users want aux lights there are plenty of lights from Emisar, Noctigon, and Fireflies.

as much as I love my lights with aux leds and display them together, I agree with you here. I'm not looking for auxiliary leds from my super reliable Convoy lights. Maybe a lighted switch which I always appreciate. That's enough 

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Since the mobile phone does not use fixed parameters, SBT90.2 looks a little dark from the picture, the picture is for reference only.

3×21A SST40 (P2 bin),6800LM,142.5KCD,755 meters ,aliexpress price $59.19
3×21A SFT40 (N5 bin),5400LM,265KCD,1029 meters ,aliexpress price $65.61
4×18A SBT90.2,5400LM,314.7KCD,1122 meters,aliexpress price $78.54

That looks really interesting. Thumbs Up

Any chance to get SFT40 in 5000K anytime soon?

Will 3×21A use three 18650 batteries? If so, is it sold with an adapter for flat top batteries like 4×18A?

Will 4×18A or 3×21A become available with FC GT40 in 4500K?

no SFT40 5000K available currently.
You can put 21*1.5mm O-rings on the outside of the 18650 battery, but the 18650 battery is too short to fit.
i dont have suitable driver for FC40 currently

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Superstocker wrote:
Simon,
Thank you so much for your continued interaction with us. It is much appreciated. I’m looking forward to those 26800 extensions. If I may, what are the odds of getting something like an L2 with a larger head? It could be used to make a compact super thrower with something like one of the Kaidomain 86mm reflector (or something around that size). I’d be very happy with just a new head or adapter for a larger reflector too, if that would work and be more feasible.

Single 26800+~90mm reflector sounds awesome to me!

uh ,the bigger head for SBT90.2?

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Simon Mao wrote:
Since the mobile phone does not use fixed parameters, SBT90.2 looks a little dark from the picture, the picture is for reference only.

3×21A SST40 (P2 bin),6800LM,142.5KCD,755 meters ,aliexpress price $59.19
3×21A SFT40 (N5 bin),5400LM,265KCD,1029 meters ,aliexpress price $65.61
4×18A SBT90.2,5400LM,314.7KCD,1122 meters,aliexpress price $78.54

I’m going to have to complain just a little. Those are teaser pictures. Can you give us a little better photos, please. You know reflector, threads, inside the body tube.

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Simon Mao wrote:
Since the mobile phone does not use fixed parameters, SBT90.2 looks a little dark from the picture, the picture is for reference only. 3X21A SST40 (P2 bin),6800LM,142.5KCD,755 meters ,aliexpress price $59.19 3X21A SFT40 (N5 bin),5400LM,265KCD,1029 meters ,aliexpress price $65.61 4X18A SBT90.2,5400LM,314.7KCD,1122 meters,aliexpress price $78.54 !https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51250060712_3c617fd222_b.jpg!
I'm going to have to complain just a little. Those are teaser pictures. Can you give us a little better photos, please. You know reflector, threads, inside the body tube.

yes, reflector please! And yes, battery tube too

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Question is the SFT-40 the domeless version of the SST-40? Same voltage and footprint as the SST and XML?

Is the SFT-70 the Luminus domeless version of the Cree XHP-70 same 12 voltage and footprint as the XHP-70?

Anyone have the Spec sheet for those leds?

Thanks

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Simon,
Thank you so much for your continued interaction with us. It is much appreciated. I’m looking forward to those 26800 extensions. If I may, what are the odds of getting something like an L2 with a larger head? It could be used to make a compact super thrower with something like one of the Kaidomain 86mm reflector (or something around that size). I’d be very happy with just a new head or adapter for a larger reflector too, if that would work and be more feasible.

Single 26800+~90mm reflector sounds awesome to me!

uh ,the bigger head for SBT90.2?

That or Osram. The Kaidomain has a large opening for the sbt90.

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Question is the SFT-40 the domeless version of the SST-40? Same voltage and footprint as the SST and XML?

Is the SFT-70 the Luminus domeless version of the Cree XHP-70 same 12 voltage and footprint as the XHP-70?

Anyone have the Spec sheet for those leds?

Thanks

See post #4861

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Question is the SFT-40 the domeless version of the SST-40? Same voltage and footprint as the SST and XML?

Is the SFT-70 the Luminus domeless version of the Cree XHP-70 same 12 voltage and footprint as the XHP-70?

Anyone have the Spec sheet for those leds?

Thanks

Luminus’ numbers refer to the LED’s emitting area. SST-70/SFT-70 means 7 square mm. SST-20 means 2 square mm.

The 7 in cree’s XHP70 means a 7mm by 7mm pad footprint.

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I don’t believe that’s correct. The SST-70 is a 5 sq mm package. The emitting area is only slightly larger than the SST-40.

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Rayoui wrote:
I don’t believe that’s correct. The SST-70 is a 5 sq mm package. The emitting area is only slightly larger than the SST-40.

It should be correct as the SST70 consists of four SST20 led dies which are 2 square mm each, for a total of 8 square mm. You need to consider that the footprint is 5×5 mm, so 25mm². 7mm² is 2.65mm at each side so it fits well.

But you are right, 2.65mm die lenght for the SST70 and 2mm for the SST40 is quite a small difference.

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Rayoui wrote:
I don’t believe that’s correct. The SST-70 is a 5 sq mm package. The emitting area is only slightly larger than the SST-40.

A 5mm square is 25mm². SST-40 certainly is 4mm² (2mm*2mm). Square root of 7 is ~2.65. So yes, the side length it’s only slightly larger, but area nearly double.

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Ah, I see. Thanks

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Aux LEDs serve me 2 purposes:

  • they indicate voltage (by changing colour)
  • they tell me whether the light is locked out (If they are dim, the light is locked out)

Both things are of huge importance to me.
But at the same time:

  • These are the fanciest indicators but neither the cheapest nor the simplest ones. A switch RGB LED would work exactly as well.
  • My fork of Andruil puts heavy emphasis on lockout. Maybe a simpler Convoy UI doesn’t need it at all

So…I somewhat agree with what was said before, AUX lights don’t really fit the Convoy’s quality at budget price niche. At the same time I find voltage indication to be of huge value and I suggest Simon that you evaluate options to make it accessible to customers.

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Simon:

  • I can't find any trace of a 3x21A flashlight, yet posts date back to September on it being in production. Am I missing or mis-understanding something?
  • You listed a 3x21A available with a P2 bin SST-40, are those available or will be available for purchase separately, and are they 6500K or 5000K?

Thanks!

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Agro wrote:
Aux LEDs serve me 2 purposes:
  • they indicate voltage (by changing colour)
  • they tell me whether the light is locked out (If they are dim, the light is locked out)

Both things are of huge importance to me.
But at the same time:

  • These are the fanciest indicators but neither the cheapest nor the simplest ones. A switch RGB LED would work exactly as well.
  • My fork of Andruil puts heavy emphasis on lockout. Maybe a simpler Convoy UI doesn’t need it at all

So…I somewhat agree with what was said before, AUX lights don’t really fit the Convoy’s quality at budget price niche. At the same time I find voltage indication to be of huge value and I suggest Simon that you evaluate options to make it accessible to customers.


Voltage indicator is always useful.
More than Aux Leds and considering that Emisar don’t want made a quad light with adjustable temperature, I wish for quality LEDs bin below BBL that provide a wide range temperature like Nichia E21A start from 2000k to 5000k
And a regulated Driver with smooth ramp with each channel adjustable from sublumen and No PWM
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Yeah don’t get me wrong about those aux-leds. They ain’t necessary and obvious don’t make no sense to cram them in every model, just thought it that they would be nice in certain models like multi-emitter ones if they are simple to add like lighted tail switch.
I like a little bling in my EDC lights.

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Tom E wrote:

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  • I can’t find any trace of a 3×21A flashlight, yet posts date back to September on it being in production. Am I missing or mis-understanding something?

  • You listed a 3×21A available with a P2 bin SST-40, are those available or will be available for purchase separately, and are they 6500K or 5000K?


Thanks!


Flat-to-Top head plastic adapter for battery is being produced, and it will take about two days.
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interested in “P2 bin SST40” To purchase bare? Would we leave a “note to seller” for P2 bin, when buying sst40 on your store?

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Same here - meant to ask if the P2 SST-40's can be bought bare, and what tint they are, thanks!

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interested in “P2 bin SST40” To purchase bare? Would we leave a “note to seller” for P2 bin, when buying sst40 on your store?

it’s P2 bin in stock currently ,There is no need to specify it in the remarks.

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Same here – meant to ask if the P2 SST-40’s can be bought bare, and what tint they are, thanks!

BA bin,
But the batch update is fast,

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I'm confused - the Ali store still specifies "N5" as the flux for both 6500K and 5000K. Is the 5000K also available now in the P2 flux?

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Simon, have you ever made the S2+ in brass (yellow copper)?  I don't remember ever seeing or hearing about one but I would love to own it someday!  I do remember the smooth red copper one a few years ago but did not buy. 

I know brass is slower to machine than aluminum and more expensive but I think it would be a very nice option.  The couple of brass lookalikes from other companies I have seen have been poor quality.

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Two questions now that sale is coming:

Is there OP reflector for L21A?

In this listing there is three body colors to choose from, tan, brown and black, but there is only silver, black and tan (?) in picture?
https://aliexpress.com/_mKxcq57

So which is which or should I write it on comments if I get one?

Still trying to choose what host to get for my GT-FC40 led.
L21A, M21C or M21B with OP reflector. I would kinda like it to be thrower, but M21B with OP would be nice and compact, would probably see more use too and M21C would be compromise. Kinda leaning a bit to M21B, but then again silver L21A and blue tail switch would look cool and I don’t have that size of single led thrower either. So hard to choose. Smile

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Correllux wrote:

Simon, have you ever made the S2+ in brass (yellow copper)?  I don’t remember ever seeing or hearing about one but I would love to own it someday!  I do remember the smooth red copper one a few years ago but did not buy. 

I know brass is slower to machine than aluminum and more expensive but I think it would be a very nice option.  The couple of brass lookalikes from other companies I have seen have been poor quality.

Yes he did 2 batches , or was that copper? (The 2 batches which were not compatible with eachother due to different threads)
Maybe there can be a 3rd batch?

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Simon,

 

can your do the L21a with xhp35 in the silver body? Do I just request in checkout? Thank you. 

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Hello Simon, when will the L7 be available in the shop?

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