Texas_Ace wrote:

That is why I chose the SST-20 over other options. It gave the best all around beam, tint and output pattern that I could find.

I have been using my prototype extensively since it arrived.

It lit up our living room all day a few days ago when a stormed knocked out the power.

The D18 uses SST-20’s, how does it compare?

They’re basically the same.
output appears to be identical (lumens)
one’s smaller uses 1 less cell so less runtime but more carry-able.
one appears to have aux leds
I’m guessing the D18 with it’s individual optics will have a longer throw?
biggest difference: the brand and quality of manufacturing are not the same… not even close

Relampago wrote:

Texas_Ace wrote:

That is why I chose the SST-20 over other options. It gave the best all around beam, tint and output pattern that I could find.

I have been using my prototype extensively since it arrived.

It lit up our living room all day a few days ago when a stormed knocked out the power.

The D18 uses SST-20’s, how does it compare?

I do not have a D18 to compare.

On paper though the MF01S has 4 cells vs 3 cells and runs at 6v vs 3v (I think, I have not verified that one).

So on paper the MF01S should be able to deliver more power to the LED’s to drive them harder. How much harder, I have no idea. Also longer battery life of course.

At lower output levels they should be basically the same, the optics used will be the only real change here. While I have not seen the D18 optics in person, I am going to guess that they have the advantage based on past astrolux vs emisar comparisons. Although if that advantage is better throw or output (aka, efficiency), I do not know.

The LED’s themselves should be basically the same, the 4000k version that is being used in the MF01S is an FD2 tint bin which is a first and as far as I know the only way to get this tint at the moment. The 70CRI versions should basically come down to binning variance.

Overall my guess is that the MF01S will have higher peak output, longer battery life, slightly better thermals, more color options and auxled’s and the D18 will be more compact and marginally better optics.

This is all paper comparison though, I would be happy to use either light. They both look great.

mattadores wrote:

They’re basically the same. output appears to be identical (lumens) one’s smaller uses 1 less cell so less runtime but more carry-able. one appears to have aux leds I’m guessing the D18 with it’s individual optics will have a longer throw? biggest difference: the brand and quality of manufacturing are not the same… not even close

I’m pretty sure the 4 cell MF01S will have higher output than the 3 cell D18. I own a D18 with the XP-L HI and I know the output can be pushed much harder if we have one more cell. Also I’m guessing throw should be more on the MF01S if the past MF01 is any indication.

Build quality wise, the D18 is phenomenal for such a small company. It is the same quality as the M43, which was often praised. The Mateminco lights made in the last year were not bad too.

Were also XPL HIs considered? My best NW tint is from Thrunite TN40S that uses these.

Edit: wrong thread

Dioda wrote:

Were also XPL HIs considered? My best NW tint is from Thrunite TN40S that uses these.

Yes, this was the plan at first and could still happen if enough intrest was shown. I have a prototype here with a mixed tint XP-L HI 5A + 1A setup that is one of if not the best 70cri tint I have ever seen.

Although the price for the light would have to be increased with XP-L HI and they were worried that banggood would not want that, so they decided to start out with SST-20 only.

Plus the lumen output with the XP-L HI was only around ~10-15% higher in my testing IIRC and about the same throw as well.

SKV89 wrote:

Didn’t know drivers can catch fire. I hope they figure out what caused it. With the MS18 with 8×21700 high drain cells, it would be even more dangerous. I’m planning to buy the MS18 and R90TS too.

Catch fire? What are you referring to? Wrong thread?

oops I had too many BLF pages opened. DBSAR’s DX80 almost exploded

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67104?page=1#comment-1501229

lol I read a post from TK saying she has a problem with tabs. She said at the time of the post she had something like 400 tabs open at once.

lol we here at BLF understand

Interested depending on price. Any guess when it will be available?

Tom_182 wrote:

Interested depending on price. Any guess when it will be available?

Still a few months out if I had to guess.

Interested pending price check.

I’m in pending tariffs.

Interested

Interested

I want one, but how LONG will this one take?
I am still waiting on 3 projects on BLF that has a lot of interest on list but still no production.
I already own the MF01, love it, just got the MF02, love it. I also have the MF04S, love it. Will the MF01S read the same as my other MF lights shortly?

Blinkinglights wrote:

I want one, but how LONG will this one take? I am still waiting on 3 projects on BLF that has a lot of interest on list but still no production. I already own the MF01, love it, just got the MF02, love it. I also have the MF04S, love it. Will the MF01S read the same as my other MF lights shortly?

I know that I really like the MF01S prototype that I have. One of my more used lights at this point.

As I posted above, I would say there are still a few months left before it is on sale. There are still some minor issues to sort out.

Interested

Blinkinglights wrote:

I want one, but how LONG will this one take?

It’s hard to say for sure. It’s possible that Mateminco might redesign it to be 4P instead of 2S2P, but I don’t really think that will happen. It’s too late in the project to make such a big change, and the light seems to generally work fine as-is. It’s just not as efficient as it could be.

There’s some odd behavior on the driver, like unstable power levels when the battery gets low, but that doesn’t seem to really cause problems. The most noticeable weirdness is a pretty sudden tint shift when the FET channel kicks in… but I’ve managed to smooth that out a bit to make it less noticeable.

As long as the battery carrier is tight and the contacts are clean, it seems to work reasonably well.

The beam is a lot like a Meteor — a big wide hotspot without much else. If you like that kind of beam, you’ll probably like the MF01S. It’s bigger than a Meteor though, and makes more light. I measured 13,900 lm with SST-20 4000K. The most I’ve ever been able to get out of a Meteor was a bit under 6000 lm.

People will probably enjoy the aux LEDs too. Lexel did a good job with those. It has a rainbow of colors, and the colors fade away as the battery gets low.

Was 13900 with the 95cri LEDs?

Interested… if FD2 becomes a reality.

Th558 wrote:

Was 13900 with the 95cri LEDs?

I think so, but I’m not totally sure what LEDs are in this.

ToyKeeper wrote:

Th558 wrote:

Was 13900 with the 95cri LEDs?

I think so, but I’m not totally sure what LEDs are in this.

You should have the FD2 LED’s I think. Although if it is an early prototype it is possible it is the FB4.

Unless you got sent one of the CW 70 cri versions for some reason? I asked them to send you the 95cri LED’s though.

Interested

Interested

Interested depending on price.

Interested!

Please add me to the list. Thanks!

I’m interested in the group buy

ASTROLUX said that it has been manufactured in batches, and will be on sale in the middle of next month.