Which brand do you think is most durable? Your life depends on it and so does your family.

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I’ve a slew of old ASP and Streamlight lights that have endured daily abuse. Since the turn of this century I’ve always carried a LRI Photon light on a neck chain. Extremely reliable and there when others were not.

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mmalive wrote:
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mmalive wrote:
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mmalive wrote:
All lights fail in ANY circumstance at ANYTIME. Break down in choice selection is the Engineering Design, build material components, quality control, pricing, etc…..

I have done some high impact, and other extreme tests on some of my reviews. I will give insights here.

Sofirn : GREAT

Maglite : WORTHLESS

Bushnell Pro : TOTAL JOKE

Wuben : GREAT

Klarus : GREAT

Thrunite : Decent

Olight : Decent

Fenix : Decent

Powertac : GREAT

SureFire : TOTAL JOKE ( friend gave me the Defender version) Cracked body one it hit hard concrete floor

Plus quite a others. Too long to list.

But to give you basic insight. Just because higher price point DOES NOT MEAN DURABILITY or BETTER QUALITY.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ‘em all.
None of ‘em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

Lighting up the world one flashlight at a time.

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My daughter grabbed my Convoy L70 blaster out of the drawer at 3am to scare off a burglar. She walked past the simple one button lights I’ve left out (her fav the Nitecore MH20GT) to get to it. She pointed it at the douchbag. (drumroll for blaze of blinding light) whahhh whaaaaaa…the light didn’t work ….so she called the cops. Burglar didn’t see her at all despite her being @15 feet away and the cops arrested the guy.

Oh, turns out that you have to press the damned tail button FIRST, before the side button is hit to turn on a L6. That’s all. Flashlight worked fine after all, the officer, daughter and I all got to laugh about it @3:30am.

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Couchmaster wrote:
My daughter grabbed my Convoy L70 blaster out of the drawer at 3am to scare off a burglar. She walked past the simple one button lights I’ve left out (her fav the Nitecore MH20GT) to get to it. She pointed it at the douchbag. (drumroll for blaze of blinding light) whahhh whaaaaaa…the light didn’t work ….so she called the cops. Burglar didn’t see her at all despite her being @15 feet away and the cops arrested the guy.

Oh, turns out that you have to press the damned tail button FIRST, before the side button is hit to turn on a L6. That’s all. Flashlight worked fine after all, the officer, daughter and I all got to laugh about it @3:30am.


Here’s a better thread for this kind of content.

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Couchmaster wrote:
My daughter grabbed my Convoy L70 blaster out of the drawer at 3am to scare off a burglar. She walked past the simple one button lights I’ve left out (her fav the Nitecore MH20GT) to get to it. She pointed it at the douchbag. (drumroll for blaze of blinding light) whahhh whaaaaaa…the light didn’t work ….so she called the cops. Burglar didn’t see her at all despite her being @15 feet away and the cops arrested the guy.

Oh, turns out that you have to press the damned tail button FIRST, before the side button is hit to turn on a L6. That’s all. Flashlight worked fine after all, the officer, daughter and I all got to laugh about it @3:30am.

This is why the whole idea of mech/electronic dual-switch lights irritates the hell out of me, either you want turbo right away and it comes on in low, or you want low and blind yourself with turbo. Then, after turning it on you need to use two hands or completely change your grip on it to cycle the modes. No thanks.

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OEM, untouched: Fenix

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Figger it’s dark for 12 hours +/-(unless you’re in a cave or far away from the equator); so an astrolux a01 on low should last all night; 3 of them just to be safe; you’re going to have to run high occasionally.
For a weeks worth of outage I would have 6 on hand with solar to power my charger.
Throw in a few i3eos for good measure.(I ran one continuiously for a little over an hour with a aaa bonai1100mah rechargeable).
They also fit little hands without getting hot enough to burn.

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My wife removed my right ear on the usability of my collection of flashlights.

Keychain olight….unscrew it

Q8….ramping

VG10….tail switch

TK15…..side switch

TK45….two side switches

She asked with all honesty….in an emergency, why should I expect her to remember which flashlight she has in her hands and how it works?

My answer is obvious. Trade her for a flashoholic wife Find a cheap floody light, in red anodizing if possible and buy several of them.

Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.

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elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
All lights fail in ANY circumstance at ANYTIME. Break down in choice selection is the Engineering Design, build material components, quality control, pricing, etc…..

I have done some high impact, and other extreme tests on some of my reviews. I will give insights here.

Sofirn : GREAT

Maglite : WORTHLESS

Bushnell Pro : TOTAL JOKE

Wuben : GREAT

Klarus : GREAT

Thrunite : Decent

Olight : Decent

Fenix : Decent

Powertac : GREAT

SureFire : TOTAL JOKE ( friend gave me the Defender version) Cracked body one it hit hard concrete floor

Plus quite a others. Too long to list.

But to give you basic insight. Just because higher price point DOES NOT MEAN DURABILITY or BETTER QUALITY.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ‘em all.
None of ‘em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

Do not reply with your NONSENSE. Unless you are QUALIFIED WITH DEGREES do not make ANY TYPE of comments pertaining to Engineering, Design, Build Quality, etc… You DO NOT ANY platform to make those type of comments.

Surefire is A JOKE. Especially the prices they charge. I had a Surefire FAIL while other brands stood up to SAME test guy.

Back to subject at hand. Another poster mentioned complainers more than satisfied users of certain brands. I layout and specify that Surefire and Elezetta FAILS like any other light in circumstances. Along comes a elbakan1 trying to play hero in thread really WASTING thread space

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CREEXHP70LED wrote:
Other people will die let them if they are not intelligent enough.

You think that you are well prepared to the end of the world, but it’s just a scenario, you absolutely don’t know when it will be your time to say bye-bye.
Did you notice this small lego on top of your house stairs before going down to the kitchen at night ? Ouch…broken neck 2 seconds later.
Yeah, stupid accidents happen every single day even the less expected one.
Stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive…ah…ah…ah…ah, stayin’ alive is not a matter of intelligence, only chance.

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Zebralight

My SC52W has had at least two trips in the washing machine so far…. and been dropped onto concrete numerous times. Solid machined body, potted electronics, great driver.

I lost the SC52W, so ordered a SC53W, then found the SC52W! The 52W is the tougher light, chunkier body.

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Tally-ho wrote:
CREEXHP70LED wrote:
Other people will die let them if they are not intelligent enough.

You think that you are well prepared to the end of the world, but it’s just a scenario, you absolutely don’t know when it will be your time to say bye-bye.
Did you notice this small lego on top of your house stairs before going down to the kitchen at night ? Ouch…broken neck 2 seconds later.
Yeah, stupid accidents happen every single day even the less expected one.
Stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive…ah…ah…ah…ah, stayin’ alive is not a matter of intelligence, only chance.

lol speak for yourself bud!! I’ll be the one in the ball! Crazy

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mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
All lights fail in ANY circumstance at ANYTIME. Break down in choice selection is the Engineering Design, build material components, quality control, pricing, etc…..

I have done some high impact, and other extreme tests on some of my reviews. I will give insights here.

Sofirn : GREAT

Maglite : WORTHLESS

Bushnell Pro : TOTAL JOKE

Wuben : GREAT

Klarus : GREAT

Thrunite : Decent

Olight : Decent

Fenix : Decent

Powertac : GREAT

SureFire : TOTAL JOKE ( friend gave me the Defender version) Cracked body one it hit hard concrete floor

Plus quite a others. Too long to list.

But to give you basic insight. Just because higher price point DOES NOT MEAN DURABILITY or BETTER QUALITY.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ‘em all.
None of ‘em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

Do not reply with your NONSENSE. Unless you are QUALIFIED WITH DEGREES do not make ANY TYPE of comments pertaining to Engineering, Design, Build Quality, etc… You DO NOT ANY platform to make those type of comments.

Surefire is A JOKE. Especially the prices they charge. I had a Surefire FAIL while other brands stood up to SAME test guy.

Back to subject at hand. Another poster mentioned complainers more than satisfied users of certain brands. I layout and specify that Surefire and Elezetta FAILS like any other light in circumstances. Along comes a elbakan1 trying to play hero in thread really WASTING thread space

It must be frustrating to have not one, but two minor degrees and not finding a job.
At least, smashing flashlights.

Lighting up the world one flashlight at a time.

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elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
All lights fail in ANY circumstance at ANYTIME. Break down in choice selection is the Engineering Design, build material components, quality control, pricing, etc…..

I have done some high impact, and other extreme tests on some of my reviews. I will give insights here.

Sofirn : GREAT

Maglite : WORTHLESS

Bushnell Pro : TOTAL JOKE

Wuben : GREAT

Klarus : GREAT

Thrunite : Decent

Olight : Decent

Fenix : Decent

Powertac : GREAT

SureFire : TOTAL JOKE ( friend gave me the Defender version) Cracked body one it hit hard concrete floor

Plus quite a others. Too long to list.

But to give you basic insight. Just because higher price point DOES NOT MEAN DURABILITY or BETTER QUALITY.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ‘em all.
None of ‘em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

Do not reply with your NONSENSE. Unless you are QUALIFIED WITH DEGREES do not make ANY TYPE of comments pertaining to Engineering, Design, Build Quality, etc… You DO NOT ANY platform to make those type of comments.

Surefire is A JOKE. Especially the prices they charge. I had a Surefire FAIL while other brands stood up to SAME test guy.

Back to subject at hand. Another poster mentioned complainers more than satisfied users of certain brands. I layout and specify that Surefire and Elezetta FAILS like any other light in circumstances. Along comes a elbakan1 trying to play hero in thread really WASTING thread space

It must be frustrating to have not one, but two minor degrees and not finding a job.
At least, smashing flashlights.

DO NOT even go there guy. Currently working as Structural/Interface Design Engineering AND Electrical Engineering Consultant in Industry.

That is WAY MORE than said for your background guy.

Ooh, BTW, I can CARE LESS about Surefire. I have many other lights : Fenix, Powertac, Olight, Nitecore, MFTactial, Astrolux, Convoy, Wuben, Sofirn, and list GOES ON AND ON.

Surefire is WAY BEHIND on my lists FOR SURE. You can TAKE THAT to the bank.

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mattadores wrote:
lol speak for yourself bud!! I’ll be the one in the ball! Crazy
Big Smile
Not even impressed, I was trained by the best to survive way worst than your ballon. Yeah, deadly falling rocks :

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Tally-ho wrote:
mattadores wrote:
lol speak for yourself bud!! I’ll be the one in the ball! Crazy
Big Smile
Not even impressed, I was trained by the best to survive way worst than your ballon. Yeah, deadly falling rocks :

!https://i.imgur.com/ynDh1pR.gif!

You have me beat in competition with falling rocks which will bounce me all over the place. But dodging boulders isn’t going to help you mow down hoards of zombies like my balloon! Crazy

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I guess the problem was not about the preparedness. It’s the sentiment from XHP70 sentence.
What if those non intelligent people are your kids, relatives, or any of your loved ones?

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mattadores wrote:
But dodging boulders isn’t going to help you mow down hoards of zombies like my balloon! Crazy

My hands are deadly weapons, not super-efficient against rocks but can chop off dozen of heads per second.
(N.B. : Tested against an army of snowmem in antartica)

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As a few around here have said. Do not rely on a single point of failure.

One is none, two is one. Always have one backup. So have 3 lights if it is critical and your life depends on it. Find the ones you like and use them. I agree with a few around here that the Surefire lights are waaaaaay over priced, along with Eltza (sp).

The last large earthquake we had (7.1) all my lights and batteries mystically appeared on the dinning room table when I made it home. The wife did not care what it was designed for, along as it had a working batteries and she could turn it on and provided light. Now when I mention a light or batteries, she comes over and has a quick lesson on how to use and change the batteries. She also says “At least you do not collect watches, as it would be hard to climb under the house trying to make sure all the pipes are ok using a watch face.” One of her friends husband collects watches and his wife could not find a flashlight and came over to see if she could barrow one. She was surprised when my wife just handed her a plastic one that used C sized batteries.

As a side note I have picked up a few more Emisar D4S lights and batteries because of the secondary indicators, run time and ramping. Also have a stash of AA lights and a few Costco bricks of batteries just in case. To hand out to those that might need a little light.

Everyone says end of the world ect. I just say in case of natural disasters, floods, fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, rainstorms (ever have 8 inches when the record for the last 100 years was only 3 inches?) and what have ya. It is funny how fast darkness falls.

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mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
All lights fail in ANY circumstance at ANYTIME. Break down in choice selection is the Engineering Design, build material components, quality control, pricing, etc…..

I have done some high impact, and other extreme tests on some of my reviews. I will give insights here.

Sofirn : GREAT

Maglite : WORTHLESS

Bushnell Pro : TOTAL JOKE

Wuben : GREAT

Klarus : GREAT

Thrunite : Decent

Olight : Decent

Fenix : Decent

Powertac : GREAT

SureFire : TOTAL JOKE ( friend gave me the Defender version) Cracked body one it hit hard concrete floor

Plus quite a others. Too long to list.

But to give you basic insight. Just because higher price point DOES NOT MEAN DURABILITY or BETTER QUALITY.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ‘em all.
None of ‘em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

Do not reply with your NONSENSE. Unless you are QUALIFIED WITH DEGREES do not make ANY TYPE of comments pertaining to Engineering, Design, Build Quality, etc… You DO NOT ANY platform to make those type of comments.

Surefire is A JOKE. Especially the prices they charge. I had a Surefire FAIL while other brands stood up to SAME test guy.

Back to subject at hand. Another poster mentioned complainers more than satisfied users of certain brands. I layout and specify that Surefire and Elezetta FAILS like any other light in circumstances. Along comes a elbakan1 trying to play hero in thread really WASTING thread space

It must be frustrating to have not one, but two minor degrees and not finding a job.
At least, smashing flashlights.

DO NOT even go there guy. Currently working as Structural/Interface Design Engineering AND Electrical Engineering Consultant in Industry.

That is WAY MORE than said for your background guy.

Ooh, BTW, I can CARE LESS about Surefire. I have many other lights : Fenix, Powertac, Olight, Nitecore, MFTactial, Astrolux, Convoy, Wuben, Sofirn, and list GOES ON AND ON.

Surefire is WAY BEHIND on my lists FOR SURE. You can TAKE THAT to the bank.

Surefire is very worried that you dislike their illumination devices, I’m sure.

Lighting up the world one flashlight at a time.

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Spartan wrote:
Find a cheap floody light, in red anodizing if possible and buy several of them.

S2+ in red.

Again, can swap for a TIR if you want floodier.

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elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
elbakan1 wrote:
mmalive wrote:
All lights fail in ANY circumstance at ANYTIME. Break down in choice selection is the Engineering Design, build material components, quality control, pricing, etc…..

I have done some high impact, and other extreme tests on some of my reviews. I will give insights here.

Sofirn : GREAT

Maglite : WORTHLESS

Bushnell Pro : TOTAL JOKE

Wuben : GREAT

Klarus : GREAT

Thrunite : Decent

Olight : Decent

Fenix : Decent

Powertac : GREAT

SureFire : TOTAL JOKE ( friend gave me the Defender version) Cracked body one it hit hard concrete floor

Plus quite a others. Too long to list.

But to give you basic insight. Just because higher price point DOES NOT MEAN DURABILITY or BETTER QUALITY.

You did what to a Surefire?.
What version of the Defender.
I have eight versions of the Great Defender.
And maybe I don’t have ‘em all.
None of ‘em will ever hit concrete. They levitate.
They gave you a Chinese fake junk garbage.

Similar to the one pictured. With Surefire prices they charge : Not standing up to my tests at at all. Total JOKE. I would buy Surefire for collecting only. Not field use.

Other brand stood up to better abusive/impact test conditions than Surefire. And at a FRACTION of the cost.

The United States Armed Forces are in dire need of your professional advice.

Correct. My Dual Engineering Degrees would help them for sure.

Bachelor Of Science in Structural/Interface Design

Bachelor Of Science in Electrical Engineering

I’m sure your scientific tests will help the country.
And your degrees will impress the Pentagon.
Uncle Sam will stop buying Surefires immediately.
Just don’t go with “the one pictured” thing.
You can end up in jail.
For wasting their time like you waste yours.

Do not reply with your NONSENSE. Unless you are QUALIFIED WITH DEGREES do not make ANY TYPE of comments pertaining to Engineering, Design, Build Quality, etc… You DO NOT ANY platform to make those type of comments.

Surefire is A JOKE. Especially the prices they charge. I had a Surefire FAIL while other brands stood up to SAME test guy.

Back to subject at hand. Another poster mentioned complainers more than satisfied users of certain brands. I layout and specify that Surefire and Elezetta FAILS like any other light in circumstances. Along comes a elbakan1 trying to play hero in thread really WASTING thread space

It must be frustrating to have not one, but two minor degrees and not finding a job.
At least, smashing flashlights.

DO NOT even go there guy. Currently working as Structural/Interface Design Engineering AND Electrical Engineering Consultant in Industry.

That is WAY MORE than said for your background guy.

Ooh, BTW, I can CARE LESS about Surefire. I have many other lights : Fenix, Powertac, Olight, Nitecore, MFTactial, Astrolux, Convoy, Wuben, Sofirn, and list GOES ON AND ON.

Surefire is WAY BEHIND on my lists FOR SURE. You can TAKE THAT to the bank.

Surefire is very worried that you dislike their illumination devices, I’m sure.

Surefire better be. I spend $1000’s on flashlights. From all companies listed above. Surefire is a JOKE claiming durability. SF FAILED on BASIC impact resistance test. While others PASSED with FLYING COLORS!!! Ha Ha.

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Lightbringer wrote:
Spartan wrote:
Find a cheap floody light, in red anodizing if possible and buy several of them.

S2+ in red.

Again, can swap for a TIR if you want floodier.

You’re killing me with this TIR thing. Sick

1…WHERE can I buy TIR lenses?

2…Other then the built in anodizing, is the S2+ any better then the VG10s? I can buy that for about 11 US bucks.

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Right from Simon/Convoy when you’re ordering the red S2+ with the 4C emitter.

Get the 60° one for a nice flood without diluting the beam too much.

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Lightbringer wrote:
Right from Simon/Convoy when you’re ordering the red S2+ with the 4C emitter.

Get the 60° one for a nice flood without diluting the beam too much.

I’m having shopping anxiety. I went through the site and I can’t find an S2+ with a TIR lens.

Do I have to send an email to get that option?

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You got that right.

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Spartan wrote:
Lightbringer wrote:
Right from Simon/Convoy when you’re ordering the red S2+ with the 4C emitter.

Get the 60° one for a nice flood without diluting the beam too much.

I’m having shopping anxiety. I went through the site and I can’t find an S2+ with a TIR lens.

Do I have to send an email to get that option?

Maybe he’d even install one if you want, but ordinarily you’d order it as a separate item. Or just ask him.

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