What about a internal charger in the tail cap? USB type
C or magnetic ……..
Won’t happen… BLFers hate integrating charging for some reason, maybe it will make them feel like “muggles”.
I, for one, LOVE integrating charging and type C even more
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What about a internal charger in the tail cap? USB type
C or magnetic ……..
Won’t happen… BLFers hate integrating charging for some reason, maybe it will make them feel like “muggles”.
I, for one, LOVE integrating charging and type C even more
Haha I grap what you mean.
This type of torches is such great presents for people who are not minded taking battery in and out for charging …….mind you charging is so convenient with my Olights,…… some folks still prefer manual gearbox vehicles.
Type-C in the tail would be interesting, but likely would rule out NiMh/Alkaline compatibility entirely. I dislike proprietary connectors.
I would love good NiMh support because then I could toss them in a few places with Eneloop Pros and forget about them until needed. Standby drain would also have to be considered.
Because AA and 14500 is better then 14500 alone. And I think a AA/14500 BLF driver is long overdue. I really don’t see the point in 14500 only lights. The cells are expensive compared to the power you get and pay fo forr an 18650 cell. aa/14500 compatible lights are great for traveling etc. I mean what’s not to like about an AA and 14500light?
If not compatible with AA NiMh this wil just be another 14500 light like so many others on the market already.
The one issue here is a missing de-facto standard form factor. Case in point: the SP10 with its tombstoned switch/driver PCB. Won’t fit anywhere else, most likely.
There’s not that many setups available (component-wise) that allow AA+14500 anyway, so it’s quite predictable how the schematics will look, but space constraints will heavily dictate the implementation.
What about a internal charger in the tail cap? USB type
C or magnetic ……..
Won’t happen… BLFers hate integrating charging for some reason, maybe it will make them feel like “muggles”.
I, for one, LOVE integrating charging and type C even more
I think the problems a lot of people have with integrated charging… well they’d include:
-added cost
-added failure/water ingress point
-eventual discontinuation of charging method (mini-usb anyone?)
-some lights w/integrated charging prevent removal/changing of the battery which puts a definite expiration date on a light.
For those that don’t like the green tint in the LH351D 5000k 90cri, slice it. You want believe the difference.
Djozz sliced a LH351C 5000k 90cri to satisfy my curiosity and it turned out to be a diamond in the rough. Ends up at about 4300k with a slight rosy tint. http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1410358#comment-1410358
I sliced the LH351D 5000k 90cri which djozz says should be very similar to the effects to the LH351C and it turned out to my eye to be correct. I like the tint alot in a RRT-01. Loses about 100 lumens but definitely worth the loss.
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Interested in either battery configuration but it would be nice if BLF had another first.
The first light to run 14500 and AA with Anduril, I’d definitely be in for that.
As for charging, I see a number of reasons why it won’t happen.
Space: as it is, the driver cavity is pretty cramped already . See here: pic1pic2 .
Getting additional hardware in there would be very, very tricky. Charging port covers take up space too, so it would either grow externally or shrink internally.
AFAIK there is no small off-the-shelf solution for multi-chemistry single cell charging (besides NiMH being a bitch anyway, with another host of issues…) so it would either mean a discrete solution (lots of space) or somewhat crippled (charge Li cells but leave NiMH/Alkalines alone).
I might just be nitpicking but can the “hot” caution logo be removed for a more cleaner look? This might have more legal implications but i’m just putting it out there.
Can anyone who owns a SP10A confirm the driver is 15mm in diameter? I want to find out what fits in there but I don’t have one on hand, mine is still in the mail.
Thanks!
I don't know. Barry has sent me some detailed information about the SP10S circuitry but I'm not that sophisticated to tell what's possible and what's not. So, I will try to get in touch with some guys (e.g. Lexel, gchart) that hopefully will do us the favor to take a look at it. Is there anyone else out here who's experienced in driver designs? Please take into account that Barry asked me to not post the driver schematics publicly here, I guess for reasons of confidentiality.
Can anyone who owns a SP10A confirm the driver is 15mm in diameter? I want to find out what fits in there but I don’t have one on hand, mine is still in the mail.
Thanks!
Meanwhile I have received very helpful feedback from Toykeeper, Barry and Kikkoman. As the SP10S driver uses a PIC12F1822 with limited memory it will be difficult but with some changes (e.g. ATtiny85) and a better boost converter we might get to see a new driver with Andúril and AA as well as 14500 support. As soon as I get any updates I will let you know.
Meanwhile I have received very helpful feedback from Toykeeper, Barry and Kikkoman. As the SP10S driver uses a PIC12F1822 with limited memory it will be difficult but with some changes (e.g. ATtiny85) and a better boost converter we might get to see a new driver with Andúril and AA as well as 14500 support. As soon as I get any updates I will let you know.
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What about a internal charger in the tail cap? USB type
C or magnetic ……..
Won’t happen… BLFers hate integrating charging for some reason, maybe it will make them feel like “muggles”.
I, for one, LOVE integrating charging and type C even more
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Haha I grap what you mean.
This type of torches is such great presents for people who are not minded taking battery in and out for charging …….mind you charging is so convenient with my Olights,…… some folks still prefer manual gearbox vehicles.
Type-C in the tail would be interesting, but likely would rule out NiMh/Alkaline compatibility entirely. I dislike proprietary connectors.
I would love good NiMh support because then I could toss them in a few places with Eneloop Pros and forget about them until needed. Standby drain would also have to be considered.
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That, plus charging from the tail means either having the driver also in the tail, and/or a dual-tube design.
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The one issue here is a missing de-facto standard form factor. Case in point: the SP10 with its tombstoned switch/driver PCB. Won’t fit anywhere else, most likely.
There’s not that many setups available (component-wise) that allow AA+14500 anyway, so it’s quite predictable how the schematics will look, but space constraints will heavily dictate the implementation.
Otherwise, I fully agree.
How about building a light switchable between 2 drivers, one for NiMH and one for li-ion input?
Or autoswitching if it could be smart enough ….
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Interested in one if 14500, multiple if NiMH compatible.
I think the problems a lot of people have with integrated charging… well they’d include:
-added cost
-added failure/water ingress point
-eventual discontinuation of charging method (mini-usb anyone?)
-some lights w/integrated charging prevent removal/changing of the battery which puts a definite expiration date on a light.
Interested.
For those that don’t like the green tint in the LH351D 5000k 90cri, slice it. You want believe the difference.
Djozz sliced a LH351C 5000k 90cri to satisfy my curiosity and it turned out to be a diamond in the rough. Ends up at about 4300k with a slight rosy tint.
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1410358#comment-1410358
I sliced the LH351D 5000k 90cri which djozz says should be very similar to the effects to the LH351C and it turned out to my eye to be correct. I like the tint alot in a RRT-01. Loses about 100 lumens but definitely worth the loss.
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Interested in either battery configuration but it would be nice if BLF had another first.
The first light to run 14500 and AA with Anduril, I’d definitely be in for that.
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Interested!
I love all kinds of lights... storm lanterns, kosmos & matador lamps, gas lanterns, tallow lanterns, flashlights, lasers, tritium vials...
Interested for at least one.
Very interested if NiMH compatible.
man this project is much more exiting than other lights.
definitely getting anywhere between 5 to 10 pieces if they’re making.
Nico -.-
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Interested in one with Anduril, 14500/NiMh compatible, without USB charging, but with a strong magnet in the tail.
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As for charging, I see a number of reasons why it won’t happen.
Space: as it is, the driver cavity is pretty cramped already . See here: pic1 pic2 .
Getting additional hardware in there would be very, very tricky. Charging port covers take up space too, so it would either grow externally or shrink internally.
AFAIK there is no small off-the-shelf solution for multi-chemistry single cell charging (besides NiMH being a bitch anyway, with another host of issues…) so it would either mean a discrete solution (lots of space) or somewhat crippled (charge Li cells but leave NiMH/Alkalines alone).
In other words: forget about it…
I might just be nitpicking but can the “hot” caution logo be removed for a more cleaner look? This might have more legal implications but i’m just putting it out there.
Can anyone who owns a SP10A confirm the driver is 15mm in diameter? I want to find out what fits in there but I don’t have one on hand, mine is still in the mail.
Thanks!
When is this happening?
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I don't know. Barry has sent me some detailed information about the SP10S circuitry but I'm not that sophisticated to tell what's possible and what's not. So, I will try to get in touch with some guys (e.g. Lexel, gchart) that hopefully will do us the favor to take a look at it. Is there anyone else out here who's experienced in driver designs? Please take into account that Barry asked me to not post the driver schematics publicly here, I guess for reasons of confidentiality.
It looks like 17mm.
See this nice review by MascaratumB http://budgetlightforum.com/node/56992 .
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Meanwhile I have received very helpful feedback from Toykeeper, Barry and Kikkoman. As the SP10S driver uses a PIC12F1822 with limited memory it will be difficult but with some changes (e.g. ATtiny85) and a better boost converter we might get to see a new driver with Andúril and AA as well as 14500 support. As soon as I get any updates I will let you know.
Cheers,
Thomas
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