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Copper p60 pills and mag heatsinks-gauging interest.

     First off I know there are some of you out there that I owe parts and heatsinks to, and I would just like to say that I did not forget about you, but it has been a heck of a busy year.  I have had to work more than I thought, and when I was off I had a 2 year old to take care of because the wife got called away for work several times. So I apologize that I did not get the lathe time I thought I would.  You will get your heatsinks soon.

 

     I just wanted to gauge interest in copper P60 pills and mag heatsinks, or perhaps another part that is needed that I may not realize the demand for.  I was talking to a friend at work that used to write programs for all types of cnc machines.  It looks like I should be able to get a run of parts made for relatively cheap.   Just want to hear what some of you would seriously be interested in, such as copper p60 pills, mag heatsinks, or anything else.  I was thinking a heatsink for the mag rebel reflectors may be of interest since nobody offers one.

 

       If I get enough people seriously interested, I will get him to make a run of parts. The more people the cheaper it will be obviously, but I will say the price should be very good.  All parts will be made on the latest and greatest equipment.  I will just have to pay for tooling, materials, and throw the guy setting up and running the machine some cash. 

 

       Give me some feedback, and I will see what the price will be and let you know when they can be done.   

       

 

 

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Mag C cell heatsinks-please!! And just a reminder for the quad-XP-G sink, but can you do one for a C cell mag?

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Hi U,

There's a thread on a soon to be anounced group buy for a DRY. Would you be able to build a heatsink for the Dry?  A couple members have done something similar but nothing up to scale.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/6152

The Brynite is a clone so the design idea would be similar.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/5420

Thx for considering

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A turbo head with C8-sized components, but with P60 threading would be AWESOME.

 

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I'd be in for some Mag C heatsinks for the Rebel reflector.  I'd probably even go for a Mag D heatsink with the same reflector.  Depending on price, I might go for 2 of each.

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Chicago X wrote:

A turbo head with C8-sized components, but with P60 threading would be AWESOME.

+1 Smile

I'm assuming Chicago means a 55mm+ head that takes a standard P60 pill.

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   Ill have to talk to him about the head and see If I can find a supply of reflectors that will work well.  What size head would everyone like?  55 mm would be huge on the p60 format but would increase the throw tremendously.  I was thinking of a pill/head combo that would increase the body contact and actually act as a real heatsink.   I would like to keep the price of the heatsinks at 6 or 7  bucks max.  The copper pills fiqure to be 8 to 10 bucks depending on how many I make. Still a ton cheaper than on CPF.  I have some design changes in mind like a thicker pad for the led to sit on and a few others.   I think the heatsinks could go as low as 3 or 4 bucks, but I would have to do a decent amount. To get it that cheap.   All speculation till I know more, but will let everyone know when I find out.

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ill take 5 to 10 magD heatsinks may be more when ur set on the price

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Mag "D" & "C" Rebel heatsinks, please! Smile

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I'm intrested in P60 gear.

This might be a long shot but a copper head for a L2 and similar that will make flush contact with these so we can just add some thermal paste and drop it in? The aluminium heads and tin foil or copper tape are poor heat sinks. Maybe similar to L2T heads but smooth copper with some shallow cooling fins? I'd pay a reasonable amount for that and I think a lot of others will too as its a very popular combo.

I'm interested in any other P60 parts though depending on what you come up with, Ill subscribe to this and see what happens. 

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what you said in your last post. i'd be interested in several for sure. thanks.

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nitro wrote:

ill take 5 to 10 magD heatsinks may be more when ur set on the price

If I had several people want that many, the price would be even better.

 

 

        The head I was thinking more of a c8 style with a full contact heatsink as a pair, if I make one that is.   Like I said lemme know your interest and I will see what we can do.

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U_235 wrote:

nitro wrote:

ill take 5 to 10 magD heatsinks may be more when ur set on the price

If I had several people want that many, the price would be even better.

I'd want at least 2-3 heatsinks for C cell mags and one for triple/triple XP-G stars like you & I talked about. All flat top and with a recess for stacked AMC drivers X3. No copper necessary-aluminum is fine.

Rich

 

 

        The head I was thinking more of a c8 style with a full contact heatsink as a pair, if I make one that is.   Like I said lemme know your interest and I will see what we can do.

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I will be interested in at least 1 or 2 mag D heatsinks (that work with rebel reflector).

 

Are you still making them for multiple emitters in the mag d?

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I could go for some more dcell rebel mag heat sinks.

I ran out giving people mags for Christmas.

 

Make them $5.00 each and i will pick up 20. Smile

 

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shhh wrote:

I could go for some more dcell rebel mag heat sinks.

I ran out giving people mags for Christmas.

 

Make them $5.00 each and i will pick up 20. Smile

 

if there 5.00 each ill be in for 20 also

 

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nitro wrote:

shhh wrote:

I could go for some more dcell rebel mag heat sinks.

I ran out giving people mags for Christmas.

 

Make them $5.00 each and i will pick up 20. Smile

 

if there 5.00 each ill be in for 20 also

 

Heh...good luck with that though.  The copper alone in a D-mag heatsink would cost close to $5 probably. Maybe in aluminum and mass produced by machine you could get it down to $5. 

In copper even $10 would be dirt cheap. I will be pleasantly surprised if it's much below $20 a piece in copper since I've only seen aluminum versions for sale in the past and all were over $20-$25.

It would be nice to get them for $5 Wink

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Make some that will compete with H22A offering on CPF, and compatible with the mag rebel reflector and you'll be Making hundreds a month. Also don't forget about us guys that asked a while back for the custom one!
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Any idea of a timeline on this? A lot of other promises turned into vaporware for me this last year. (other people)

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     I should be able to have them within a month or less.  I just wanna get a feel for interest, so I can get an idea on how many to make for the first run. The mag heatsinks would be aluminum and the material cost would be about 1 dollar per sink.  Copper would be 10 bucks or so per sink, plus it wears the tooling more.  I gotta give the guy making the run somthin for his trouble, so I am shooting for 5 or 6 bucks a piece. Still way cheaper than the H22A heatsinks, and they would work with the rebel reflector.  Would there be more interest in a C or D heatsink?  The rebel reflector does not really need a pedestal for the led to focus like the regular mag reflector, so I may make the flat top so you can use 20mm stars for them.  The reg mag heatsinks need a pedestal for focus.

     I will make the heatsinks for the people who want them for the quad or triple xpg stars, I just have not had the time I thought I would to do it.  Will prob have them in 2 weeks or so. 

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Well I am still trying to figure out myself whether to go with C sized Mags or D sized.  I'd probably go with a couple of each.  Instead of being "flat top" would it make more sense to have a very small 20mm pedestal (or recess if that works) in order to assist with centering the star? 

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Since I already have a few D mags I'd like to use for this I'd have to say I'd prefer that size.  It is also my intention to get into the C models eventually so whatever you come up with I'd go for at least a couple or more at that price.  If "D" sized count me in for 4 at $5-$6 a piece. If "C" sized I'll take at least 3 or 4.

As for dimensions, I understand that the 50mm aspherics require 30mm of focal length and that means the emitter (on a D size at least) needs to sit a few mm inside the body to get the head past the o-ring on the threads.  Making them this way will allow us to use aspherics as well as the reflectors. If you do go with flush I really don't care as I can just grind off some material from the head of the battery tube to get the o-ring seated properly inside the head. 

BTW, thanks a bunch for doing this! Cool

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   I could do a small recess to center the star, but it would only work for one size star.   It is certainly easy enough to center the star without it just by looking down through the reflector though. 

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Hey u-235, i'll be in for 5 D size for single XML build with rebel reflector, and then 5 for multi-LED build such as a 3XML/3XPG as Rich as built if you could make some heatsink for that type of build too, as seen in his thread here that I'm sure you've seen: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/4880

 

 

 

Or maybe something like this for triple builds only, or something similar to "der wichtel"s triple xml heatsinks on CPF.

 

 

I could pay early for all of these above if they are possible to make when I pay for the 12 XPG heatsink you are making for me for the if you need funds to get this project off the ground (not sure how much cash you were having to front for something like this).

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U_235 wrote:

     I will make the heatsinks for the people who want them for the quad or triple xpg stars, I just have not had the time I thought I would to do it.  Will prob have them in 2 weeks or so. 

Super! Can you do it for a C size for mine, instead of the D?

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ezarc wrote:

I'm intrested in P60 gear.

This might be a long shot but a copper head for a L2 and similar that will make flush contact with these so we can just add some thermal paste and drop it in? The aluminium heads and tin foil or copper tape are poor heat sinks. Maybe similar to L2T heads but smooth copper with some shallow cooling fins? I'd pay a reasonable amount for that and I think a lot of others will too as its a very popular combo.

I'm interested in any other P60 parts though depending on what you come up with, Ill subscribe to this and see what happens. 

+ 1

I've got a Solarforce L2P and I'd be interested in stuff that can allow my UltraFire XML drop-in to make better contact, I'll also be interested in a new empty pill which makes better contact to the sides (but what reflector would I then use) and I'll also be interested in a empty pill which could take a triple led board, and driver board at the bottom.

Can we perhaps get a few rough design sketches? I'm new to flashlights, and the jargon and concepts still confuses me sometimes.

Thnx for your effort!

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    I am talking to the guy about the mag heatsinks at the moment.   I will prob do a run of these, and then look at doing something for the p60.   Unfortunately there is not a lot of room to do much in the way of heatsink mass, but I have an idea for a better pill.  Only problem is there are slight differences to hosts, so I may have to do something specific to say solarforces.

    I will keep you all posted on progress. 

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thanks for the update

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U_235 wrote:

    I am talking to the guy about the mag heatsinks at the moment.   I will prob do a run of these, and then look at doing something for the p60.   Unfortunately there is not a lot of room to do much in the way of heatsink mass, but I have an idea for a better pill.  Only problem is there are slight differences to hosts, so I may have to do something specific to say solarforces.

    I will keep you all posted on progress. 

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I think custom P60 Heatsinks, something similar to how the Malkoff M60 looks like would be cool.

 

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