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This looks terrific. Specs sound excellent. Really looking forward to this, Hank! Thumbs Up

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Hank, I’m waiting for you to add charging to the D4V2 please. Any hope?

I have respect for everyone thoughts and opinions. Not picking… But I’m not a huge fan of charging a battery in a flashlight. A charging port or magnetic charging just creates a weak link. I like my external charger. But everybody has preferences.

I already have my D4V2 and only missing the light in the button. That feature came out after I got mine!

To each their own. I have plenty of USB charging lights and I haven’t had any fail yet.

is it possible to create an optional usb-c charging module?
only a 10mm long module to screw between body and head with charging port and passthrue

in my dreams i got a D4V2 with charging port, tail switch AND side switch and 3 levels of AUX brightness LOL

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This with SFT40, Ti-Cu, and K1 style in body usb C charging… PERFECTION!

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I want to try Emissar, and it is unclear on intl-outdoor.com whether d4v2 comes with anduril 2 by default or i should by flashing kit to update it myself?

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I’m not keen on the 14500 concept unless it’s dual fuel and tiny. And I think that doesn’t fit in with Hank’s general approach of making lights super powerful. I guess we will see.

Have you looked at Shockli and Vapcell’s crazy top of the line 1000mah high current cells? Those are real beasts!!! They can push harder than NCR18650GA. It’s been my dream to have a 14500 light that can actually take advantage of these two cells. The FWAA can utilize the power of this but it has other problems.

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I want to try Emissar, and it is unclear on intl-outdoor.com whether d4v2 comes with anduril 2 by default or i should by flashing kit to update it myself?

Anduril 2 and you can request by email if you want 1.

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Have you looked at Shockli and Vapcell’s crazy top of the line 1000mah high current cells?
It’s not just the cell—a tiny 1aa light isn’t going to have much thermal mass, so it can’t run at high power for long. Also, a 1000mah cell would get used up awfully quickly at such high drain. Even the 18650 in the D4v2 gets drained pretty fast, which is why the 26500-powered D4Sv2 exists.
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Knobbers wrote:
pennzy wrote:
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Hank, I’m waiting for you to add charging to the D4V2 please. Any hope?

I have respect for everyone thoughts and opinions. Not picking… But I’m not a huge fan of charging a battery in a flashlight. A charging port or magnetic charging just creates a weak link. I like my external charger. But everybody has preferences.

I already have my D4V2 and only missing the light in the button. That feature came out after I got mine!

To each their own. I have plenty of USB charging lights and I haven’t had any fail yet.

is it possible to create an optional usb-c charging module?
only a 10mm long module to screw between body and head with charging port and passthrue

in my dreams i got a D4V2 with charging port, tail switch AND side switch and 3 levels of AUX brightness LOL

I love this idea. I have employed it in my flashlight design projects. A simple integrated charging circuit that threads on in-between the head and body tube, with a USB-C port on it just like K1. Except it’s optional and removable.

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^ that’s very neat idea.
Not everyone likes internal charging but also not everyone dislike it.

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@Hank 


 


Could you please post a picture of the DM11 standing next to a D4V2 + D4SV2 so we can a better feel for the dimensions? 

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Hank Wang wrote:
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Could you please post a picture of the DM11 standing next to a D4V2 + D4SV2 so we can a better feel for the dimensions? 

I’m really looking forward to this, Hank. Any idea when it will be available?

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Hi Hank,

Would you kindly share what battery it’s using (18650, 21700. 26650 or possibly all three?

Thank you.

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 !https://www.noctigon.com/image/catalog/DM11/20211015121621.png![/quote] 

  

 

 

Oh man, that’s massive :/

Not what i had in mind when you said “smaller thrower”.

How does it look like next to KR1?

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SKV89 wrote:
Forsythe P. Jones wrote:
I’m not keen on the 14500 concept unless it’s dual fuel and tiny. And I think that doesn’t fit in with Hank’s general approach of making lights super powerful. I guess we will see.

Have you looked at Shockli and Vapcell’s crazy top of the line 1000mah high current cells? Those are real beasts!!! They can push harder than NCR18650GA. It’s been my dream to have a 14500 light that can actually take advantage of these two cells. The FWAA can utilize the power of this but it has other problems.


BLF GT Micro in brass mine holds turbo for a bit over 1 minute,even down to lower voltage levels.
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RamBull wrote:
Hi Hank,

Would you kindly share what battery it’s using (18650, 21700. 26650 or possibly all three?

Thank you.

He’s said previously that it’s using 21700. That also means an 18650 will fit, but may need a spacer to make contact and not rattle.

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id30209 wrote:
Oh man, that’s massive :/ Not what i had in mind when you said “smaller thrower”. How does it look like next to KR1?

Yeah I would have hoped for something like a Zebralight SC700, which is possible to make a with classic construction (i.e. not the LED on driver board, not unibody), since a TIR is shorter than a reflector, at worst by adding 5mm, making it as long as the KR1, and around the same thickness despite the 21700 cell (no signal tube).

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thefreeman wrote:
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Oh man, that’s massive :/ Not what i had in mind when you said “smaller thrower”. How does it look like next to KR1?
Yeah I would have hoped for something like a Zebralight SC700, which is possible to make a with classic construction (i.e. not the LED on driver board), since a TIR is shorter than a reflector, at worst by adding 5mm, making it as long as the KR1, and arround the same thickness despite the 21700 cell (no signal tube).
 

 

Yes! My thoughts exactly.

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thefreeman wrote:

Yeah I would have hoped for something like a Zebralight SC700, which is possible to make a with classic construction (i.e. not the LED on driver board, not unibody), since a TIR is shorter than a reflector, at worst by adding 5mm, making it as long as the KR1, and around the same thickness despite the 21700 cell (no signal tube).

I think the KR1 fits exactly between this DM11 and the KR4. Looks like a nice size to hold, considering how the slightly smaller KR1 is comfortable yet a little small in a side-switch grip (in my medium hands).

I like the classy but brutalist design. I think I will make this my first 3500k light with the classy nichia emitter.

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Thanks for the picture, Hank. 

Very nice flashlight except for maybe the knurling, seems a bit too aggressive for such a relatively small light. 
Is there any particular reason why you designed it that way?

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Valynor wrote:

Thanks for the picture, Hank. 


Very nice flashlight except for maybe the knurling, seems a bit too aggressive for such a relatively small light. 
Is there any particular reason why you designed it that way?

I agree, knurling is too much.

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thefreeman wrote:
id30209 wrote:
Oh man, that’s massive :/ Not what i had in mind when you said “smaller thrower”. How does it look like next to KR1?

Yeah I would have hoped for something like a Zebralight SC700, which is possible to make a with classic construction (i.e. not the LED on driver board, not unibody), since a TIR is shorter than a reflector, at worst by adding 5mm, making it as long as the KR1, and around the same thickness despite the 21700 cell (no signal tube).

Isn’t the SC700 a flooder though? (It can sustain 1,400 lumens as well which is very impressive for the size).

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stephenk wrote:
thefreeman wrote:
id30209 wrote:
Oh man, that’s massive :/ Not what i had in mind when you said “smaller thrower”. How does it look like next to KR1?

Yeah I would have hoped for something like a Zebralight SC700, which is possible to make a with classic construction (i.e. not the LED on driver board, not unibody), since a TIR is shorter than a reflector, at worst by adding 5mm, making it as long as the KR1, and around the same thickness despite the 21700 cell (no signal tube).

Isn’t the SC700 a flooder though? (It can sustain 1,400 lumens as well which is very impressive for the size).


It is definitely more flood than throw. Has better throw than the Thrunite T2 but that isn’t saying a ton. Anyway, I would totally buy a sc700d model with a TIR optic. It’d be sweet.

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I suspect a lot of people are doing what almost always happens to me when I look at a flashlight picture, and perceiving it as bigger than it really is. Keep in mind how compact a D4v2 in the photo is.

That said, it had to be at least very close to the size it is for the features it has. I’ll repeat the math I posted over on the flashlight reddit:

Hank already mentioned he chose a 40mm head. It will get a little more throw than what a 35mm head like the KR1 and original D1 had – that’s a pretty straightforward tradeoff that some will prefer, and some won’t.

For length, consider our D4 again as the starting point:

95mm
+ 5mm to go from 18650 to 21700
+ 18mm (my estimate after looking) to go from Carlco 10mm quad to 35+mm single TIR
+ 2mm to allow for the height of the inductor for a boost driver
==
120mm

To double-check that – the K9.3 is 124mm long. A quick scaling check on the photo puts the new light at 4-5mm shorter.

It doesn’t seem like this light can get much smaller without trading a little bit of throw (smaller optic) or battery capacity.

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Valynor wrote:

Thanks for the picture, Hank. 


Very nice flashlight except for maybe the knurling, seems a bit too aggressive for such a relatively small light. 
Is there any particular reason why you designed it that way?

To reduce the weight and enhance the grip, it’s much more hard to machine
than the shallow knurling.

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Any eta for a restock on D4SV2 in additional colors besides green? Thanks!

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Any eta for a restock on D4SV2 in additional colors besides green? Thanks!

Yes, they are back in stock now
https://intl-outdoor.com/emisar-d4sv2.html

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Hank, a few questions about DM11

What does DM11 stand for?

Do you have a rough price estimate in mind?

Are the photos you’ve shared of a prototype or are they representative of the final product?

What is the length?

A lot of Reddit users over on r/flashlight and r/hanklights are chomping at the bit to buy this new light!

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Hank Wang wrote:
Souldrop wrote:
Any eta for a restock on D4SV2 in additional colors besides green? Thanks!
Yes, they are back in stock now https://intl-outdoor.com/emisar-d4sv2.html

Awesome; order placed for 2x D4Sv2 and 1x D18! Thanks!

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ferrat_val wrote:
I want to try Emissar, and it is unclear on intl-outdoor.com whether d4v2 comes with anduril 2 by default or i should by flashing kit to update it myself?

we are very flexible, you can request either anduirl 1 or 2 by sending us an email.

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tactical_grizzly wrote:
Hank, a few questions about DM11

What does DM11 stand for?

Do you have a rough price estimate in mind?

Are the photos you’ve shared of a prototype or are they representative of the final product?

What is the length?

A lot of Reddit users over on r/flashlight and r/hanklights are chomping at the bit to buy this new light!


I really appreciate the enthusiasm from reddit users, but for some reason, I’m not able to view Reddit recently, .
DM stanads for D and M series combination.
The price should be $55~75 depends on the versions.
This is prototype, but it’s 95% the same as the final version, the length is 120mm.

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