Aliexpress/Banggood Batteries. Worth the Risk?

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I think the problem with AE batteries are mostly due to shipping. Many sellers have no idea to ship it properly and the shipment ends up getting confiscated by the authorities.

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I think the problem with AE batteries are mostly due to shipping. Many sellers have no idea to ship it properly and the shipment ends up getting confiscated by the authorities.

True. Shipping lithium batteries is tricky for overseas sellers and costs more due to customs. If you check out Convoy store on AE the shipping is more expensive than the batteries in some cases! I wouldn’t trust most Chinese sellers with batteries as far as I can throw them. I would only trust the Shockli Battery Store on AE. Great experience with them. Shipping was slow due to Coronavirus but I did get them.

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I purchase my cells at https://www.18650batterystore.com/default.asp. There here in the USA and shipping is fast. I just ordered two 30T cells for 14 dollars and change with shipping and had my cells in 4 days. At 4.99 a cell and 4.81 for shipping, it works for me Big Smile

My last four orders of batteries (averaging 8 cells per order) came from 18650batterystore.com. They have been running SUPER deals all year long and I can’t buy them elsewhere for less after figuring shipping in.

Best of all- they have LEGIT batteries… ALL have tested as OEM should. I never wait more than 3 days for an order. SO shout out to these guys who seem to be running a tight ship with LOW shipping to boot.

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Zappaman wrote:
Majoroverkill wrote:
I purchase my cells at https://www.18650batterystore.com/default.asp. There here in the USA and shipping is fast. I just ordered two 30T cells for 14 dollars and change with shipping and had my cells in 4 days. At 4.99 a cell and 4.81 for shipping, it works for me Big Smile

My last four orders of batteries (averaging 8 cells per order) came from 18650batterystore.com. They have been running SUPER deals all year long and I can’t buy them elsewhere for less after figuring shipping in.

Best of all- they have LEGIT batteries… ALL have tested as OEM should. I never wait more than 3 days for an order. SO shout out to these guys who seem to be running a tight ship with LOW shipping to boot.

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True. Shipping lithium batteries is tricky for overseas sellers and costs more due to customs. If you check out Convoy store on AE the shipping is more expensive than the batteries in some cases! I wouldn’t trust most Chinese sellers with batteries as far as I can throw them. I would only trust the Shockli Battery Store on AE. Great experience with them. Shipping was slow due to Coronavirus but I did get them.

You can ask sellers to sell a flashlight with the battery inside, its cheaper and more secure. I agree, the Shockli store is great.

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Hmm I didn’t know you could do that. Good to know!

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I summon you all battery wizards and spot the fake gurus and ask your wise guidance on the dangerous seas. So what about these:
https://aliexpress.com/item/4000793586282.html

Yes or NO?

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Well, it’s a crap shoot. You could buy those and save $2 per cell for unknown quality/origin, or buy the real thing for a little extra (I’m thinking of shipping cost as well). 30Q
It’s up to you, bit if you want to risk it and test them I’d like to see how they do.

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Unno, but all my 30Qs were almost exactly 3000mAH, not as “generous” with their initial capacity.

WTF GTF was known for selling truly $#|+ cells before, so dunno if I’d trust ‘em.

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Sirstinky wrote:
Well, it’s a crap shoot.

Emphasis on “crap”.

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Unno, but all my 30Qs were almost exactly 3000mAH, not as “generous” with their initial capacity.

WTF GTF was known for selling truly $#|+ cells before, so dunno if I’d trust ‘em.

They still have some other branded cells that I wouldnt get like 9900 mAh 18650. Grad
Well 15€ for four from trusted source nkon.eu vs. 9€ maybe real, maybe battery bad, explosive.

But for free nkon.eu delivery gotta buy +100€ so maybe H30 also. Cheapest in EU I think.

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Sirstinky wrote:
Well, it’s a crap shoot.

Emphasis on “crap”.

Yep, If it sounds to good to be true it usually is. I trust 18650 battery store and Liion Wholesale.

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Well, also on my Opus (not on “optimistic” chargers like my Zanflare, etc.), they all clocked in at 3048, 3009, 2989, 3017, etc. Ie, almost precisely within a % or two. Nothing like 3548 or 3392 or anything like that. Those might be “3000mAH” commodity cells, but not 30Qs.

Interesting it got the 3-tab cap on it, though.

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So its a no, no and no from judges.

Can you even trust liitokala official store anymore? Wasnt there some monkey business some time ago?

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I got a bunch of cheap 2000mAH “genuine LK” cells for like 2fitty each. I knew what I was getting into, and these were going into low-stress lights anyway, so they certainly looked nicer than laptop-pulls.

They all clocked in about the exact same, 2000ish, so at least the batch was consistent.

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So its a no, no and no from judges.

Can you even trust liitokala official store anymore? Wasnt there some monkey business some time ago?

If I were buying batteries on Aliexpress, I trust Shockli for good cells. My experience had been good. Cells as advertised. They have good customer service too. Litokala too much risk.

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I’ve never gotten anything but real genuine name-brand cells when buying from Banggood. .

Me too. Banggood batteries don’t always get here. Banggood refunds the order but it can take time.

AliExpress is hit or miss. I learned the hard way and have several fakes.

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So its a no, no and no from judges.

Can you even trust liitokala official store anymore? Wasnt there some monkey business some time ago?

Which offical store? There are at least 3. I got fakes from one of them.

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So its a no, no and no from judges.

Can you even trust liitokala official store anymore? Wasnt there some monkey business some time ago?

Which offical store? There are at least 3. I got fakes from one of them.

What about this one:
https://aliexpress.com/item/1000004499407.html

Cheapest that I could find. 2.5€/cell. Tempting, but.

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What about this one:
https://aliexpress.com/item/1000004499407.html

Cheapest that I could find. 2.5€/cell. Tempting, but.

The smell of fakeship ludicrously strong is on these…

 

 

I like to take detailed pictures of the cells (anode, cathode, etc.). Unfortunately not many people care, but this time thanks to a Portuguese fellow at least we can clearly see those wrinkled wraps here. Bad stuff (rewrapped cheaper energy cells). 

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Good, good. Lets not buy those. Thanks for your sharp senses.
Maybe the cheapest and real 30Q’s will be 15€/4pcs and thats not really bad either. Used to pay double when NCR18650B’s where new thing. Ah times.

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I also find buying batteries quite hard. Up until now i have been pulling 18650 batteries from old laptops so at least i know the cells from a original Dell battery is genuine.

 

Living in a country outside the EU/US i am left to Banggood - Aliexpress.

 

I recently found Fasttech and they have a lot of batteries. I am currently looking for 21700 battery so i found Samsung this on Fasttech - but the description does not say Genuine og Original like some other batteries and the wrapping is White. So what do you guys think about this item?

https://www.fasttech.com/products/9673935

 

Any other good trusted Aliexpress shops besides other posted in this thread are very welcome !

 

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Grayman007 wrote:

I recently found Fasttech and they have a lot of batteries. I am currently looking for 21700 battery so i found Samsung this on Fasttech - but the description does not say Genuine og Original like some other batteries and the wrapping is White. So what do you guys think about this item?

https://www.fasttech.com/products/9673935

The description does not say genuine, what gives? Do you automatically trust everything you are told? Better if you don't… Facepalm

FastTech takes his battery selling business very seriously, they have a lot of vapers as customers. And while I am not their accountant, as the vice vaping is I am nearly sure most of their business income comes from vaping stuff sales: vaping liquids, vaping mods and accessories, and batteries.

The small amount of cells I've bought from them were undoubtedly genuine in every case. Their battery prices are far from being considered gifts or deals, which makes sense.

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MoreLumens wrote:

What about this one:
https://aliexpress.com/item/1000004499407.html

Cheapest that I could find. 2.5€/cell. Tempting, but.

Look like fakes to me. < shrug >

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Has anyone here checked batteries from Simon at Convoy?

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Safe:

https://18650.uk/
https://eu.nkon.nl/
http://www.mtnelectronics.com

Others say ok – I haven’t tried:
https://vapcell.aliexpress.com/store/1084158

Maybe:
https://convoy.aliexpress.com/

I’ve had A+ service from Simon at Convoy but have never bought batteries from.

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Shockli batteries are good cells from a good manufacturer. Vapcell are very good rewraps of genuine cells (mostly) or made by OEMs in China like Shockli and (real) Litokala. Summons batteries are crazy expensive with shipping but I’m sure genuine.

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Shockli batteries are good cells from a good manufacturer. Vapcell are very good rewraps of genuine cells (mostly) or made by OEMs in China like Shockli and (real) Litokala. …

Correction: Shockli is not a battery OEM, just a rewrapper like Vapcell. As I see them Shockli is of a lesser grade than Vapcell, their rewraps often bear bigger figures which actually are bigger lies; you can check related reviews in our favorite reviewer's site, but bear in mind the review or cell dates (check the following example). Vapcell is more honest and known to actively promote cell development (to OEMs).

 

Yes, it is the same cell. Made by Heter.

 

LiitoKala is also not an OEM and, they are a battery rewrapper and, besides the amount of opportunist AliExpress sellers who are selling their cells, they blatantly rewrap energy cells from chinese OEMs as power cells from the big manufacturers.

 

All of this stuff is just the consequence of China being one of the countries with a lesser conscience or awareness of good and evil (North Korea is even worse).

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Sirstinky wrote:
Shockli batteries are good cells from a good manufacturer. Vapcell are very good rewraps of genuine cells (mostly) or made by OEMs in China like Shockli and (real) Litokala. …

Correction: Shockli is not a battery OEM, just a rewrapper like Vapcell. As I see them Shockli is of a lesser grade than Vapcell, their rewraps often bear bigger figures which actually are bigger lies; you can check related reviews in our favorite reviewer’s site, but bear in mind the review or cell dates (check the following example). Vapcell is more honest and known to actively promote cell development (to OEMs).


 





Yes, it is the same cell. Made by Heter.


 


LiitoKala is also not an OEM and, they are a battery rewrapper and, besides the amount of opportunist AliExpress sellers who are selling their cells, they blatantly rewrap energy cells from chinese OEMs as power cells from the big manufacturers.


 


All of this stuff is just the consequence of China being one of the countries with a lesser conscience or awareness of good and evil (North Korea is even worse).

Maybe I should reword it. I am aware they are rewrappers not manufacturers. I agree Vapcells rewraps are quality. Mooch suspects that their 3000mah 20A (purple) 18650 are Sony vtc6 rewraps and I own some vtc6 and the purple ones and they perform similarly.

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