So I am looking on Ebay at seller "365bid" and I scroll down on this page which is for an "UltraFire WF501B CREE XML T6" and see a photo which is clearly from Flashlight Foy! Here is the Ebay Photo:
And Hold On! I was looking for a Foy review with the same area and believe I found the exact same photo! See this thread reviewing the Ultrafire UF-980L and here is his photo from that thread:
I was going to say that the Ebay photo didn't look like an XM-L's hotspot, but I guess I'm wrong! But I'm sure it's way off for representing the beam of the "UltraFire WF501B CREE XML T6"! I've never really trusted Chinese beamshot photos and now I have proof!
-Garry
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Good find Garry. I've noticed on many beamshots that they are just recycled pictures, often the shot has nothing to do with the flashlight being sold. I guess this makes Foy kind of a a celebrity, huh?
I wondered for a moment if Foy is selling on Ebay as "365bid", but quickly dismissed that!
-Garry
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i am wondering when kreisler gets acknowledged and popular for his BLF-uploaded scans (*.JPG). waiting for fame and viralism,
me.
They may be out there! There's a whole lot of Ebay sellers with photos to go through!
-Garry
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You ought to contact the seller and tell them your turning them in to ebay for fraud. That's what it is. It won't do much good though. And even if ebay were to start cracking down on Asian sellers, they will just come back on as a different seller. Several of them have like 3 or more accounts. But there are some good ones.
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Yeah, this was posted a couple of weeks ago.
You know you've been spending too much time on BLF when you can recognize another user's residence / property in a photo!
-Garry
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What was posted a couple weeks ago, about Foy's photo or about the Chinese sellers using different Ebay accounts?
-Garry
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Someone posted and let Foy know that some ebay sellers were using his photos.
Ok, guess I missed that, sorry.
-Garry
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No problem. It was posted in a flashlight review thread, good to have its own thread now so people are aware of it!
You guys want to have some fun? I'm in if you all are. Let's get a bunch of BLF members here to send that guy a message stating this.
Hi,
I was very interested in your Ultafire 501B and was just about to buy it, but then I noticed that picture you stole from a guy on Budget Light Forum and it made me change my mind real quick. Thanks anyway.
___________________________________________________________________
That should get him to remove it.
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Yeah, and link to the thread with the photo and explain you no longer want it because it's really a photo of an Ultrafire UF-980L!
Oh, and I went and did a search for the previous mention of Foy's stolen photos and I couldn't find it, so it wouldn't have done me any good to search first. (At least this didn't happen over at "the other forum" where I would have been castrated for doing such a thing and expected to know the post existed without it coming up in a search!)
-Garry
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Sorry, wasn't saying you shouldn't have posted this. I am glad you did!
I already sent my comment to the seller. I told him what I said above.
I sent the Foy link as well. I then said ebay ought to kick you off.
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Anyone have experience with 365bid? Maybe they are a good seller? Just following what every other seller does.
-Garry
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Here is the thread I was referring too. Check the bottom.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/2021?page=1#comment-104400
I just logged into my eBay account and sent that %$^$*() a nasty message. You can clearly see the 980L in the photo if you blow it up a little.
I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.
Hi E1320 & all,
I'm here, to take your criticism.
Thank you for your message E1320, and I don't think it's nasty at all.
In fact, Mr. Flashlight Foy sent us a message before Christmas, after comunication we were allowed to continue using this great picture.
But now, I finally know this picture is not the correct photo of the light we are selling,we are going to take it down, please give me a little time. We don't want to mislead our client.
I feel really sorry about that, please kindly accept our apologies!
sincerely
365bid
seriously??
no comment. (=no further comment needed from my part)
Gotta Love it! Consumer action = Vendor reaction.
"We don't want to mislead our client" lol!
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I thought that was the picture of WF501B, and now I know it is not.
Im sorry ! we are going to take it down, please give us a little time.
We are a married couple living in Hong Kong, although we are just parttime eBay seller,
we are offering the product which has good quality and reasonable price.
We are try our best to keep 100% feedback by doing what we should do
- to be honest - fast shipping - accurate descriptions and good communicaion.
True, there have been mistakes, but I think that's because we lack experience.
I'm sorry for the mistakes I made, please accept my apology!
sincerely
365bid
I accept your apology and appreciate your fast response. To alienate the entire BLF family by using an unauthorized photo would be a grave mistake for your business and your honor. I was not aware he gave you permission to use his photos. It really is up to Flashlight Foy to comment on this thread and make this matter right.
I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.
Take the photo down now. It is misleading and I am sure Foy would not approve.
I agree sellers should not post other people's pictures without permission especially if it's for the wrong product. It's wrong and misleading. But what are you going to do? Flashlight police?
On a separate note, I have purchased from 365bid before after recommodation specifically from this forum. Bought an UF-C8 set with 2 batts, charger, & holster on behave of a friend. Received it in 14 days to Canada with no issues. They seemed to have good ratings.
365bid - good to hear you will make it right by removing the pictures. Kudos to you.
As evidenced by this thread, WE ARE THE FLASHLIGHT POLICE !!
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You said it pal!
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Anyone familiar with my disputes with YouWantLed will know that I am always ready to jump on someone I perceive as being utterly disreputable. I do not perceive that 365bid falls into that category.
I am always willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt on one occasion especially if they have the integrity to come onto this forum and admit their error.
I do believe that 365bid was out of order in respect of this photo but he has apologised for that. By all other accounts 365bid appears to be a seller worth trading with. ANTI-NOWHERE-LEAGUE had dealt with this seller and rates the seller highly as regards quality of product and speed of shipping.
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