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Would be interesting to submit say a convoy S2 or an other reasonably priced tube light to the same test at the same time to have a baseline and validate the design choices.

I remember some years back at CPF people were suspecting a particular light with very thin walls would be fragile, someone torture tested it in like manner and it passed with flying colors.

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This is basically a custom Made-in-the-USA light in very limited quantities. Given the manufacturing cost here and the amount of time and effort spent developing and testing this light, even at $300, I don’t see how it is profitable, but it is a good start and is probably the 1st USA made light geared toward flashlight enthusiasts so I will definitely buy one to give my support. Hopefully the 12-emitter version won’t be too much more expensive than the others. Wink I will probably supply my own emitters

Not much I can do about the host price. I am lucky Larry help with the drawings all for FREE. Otherwise I wouldn’t make a single dime on it if not acatully lose money. The light engine is where I am hoping to make the profit. However I will make them as affordable as I possible can especially the 12 LEDs one since that is one I want as many people to have. Just looking at it would be a joy. The good news is you only have to purchase the host once. It should last a lifetime and upgrades down the road wont be too pricey. Future lego parts are also in the planning to make the light suitable for even more audiences. Also if the light is made from 2011 we might be able to drop the price may be $50. If we go 6061 may be a bit more…But I suspect once we have 7075 in hand it might be worth it just to go all out with this metal. I cant wait to get my hands on it.

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JamesB wrote:
Would be interesting to submit say a convoy S2 or an other reasonably priced tube light to the same test at the same time to have a baseline and validate the design choices.

I remember some years back at CPF people were suspecting a particular light with very thin walls would be fragile, someone torture tested it in like manner and it passed with flying colors.

I ran over a light which I wont name and it didnt hold up the first run over asphalt with the truck. I decided not make a video on it as putting down another brand isn’t my intention. I am not trying to display what other brand lights cant do. I simply want to shows what mines can. Other brand lights will do many many things mine can’t. They night not pass all my 12 tests so far but they might pass other tests that are more crucial to the decision such as looks and functions that mine will not provide. As a light enthusiast, I honestly treasure and enjoy them all (except for ***Fire clones). No point is putting down another to validate my design choices.

The toughest test was likely the “@ depth” and the “Drag It”. I suspect most of my other lights will not pass those tests. Yet, I know mines will not pass the tests that those lights will have for mine…

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I see.

For reference i found the thread mentioned here , pretty impressive for a thin walled multi battery light.

Seems the Fenix store themselves used these as marketing technique.

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SKV89 wrote:
This is basically a custom Made-in-the-USA light in very limited quantities. Given the manufacturing cost here and the amount of time and effort spent developing and testing this light, even at $300, I don’t see how it is profitable, but it is a good start and is probably the 1st USA made light geared toward flashlight enthusiasts so I will definitely buy one to give my support. Hopefully the 12-emitter version won’t be too much more expensive than the others. Wink I will probably supply my own emitters

Not much I can do about the host price. I am lucky Larry help with the drawings all for FREE. Otherwise I wouldn’t make a single dime on it if not acatully lose money. The light engine is where I am hoping to make the profit. However I will make them as affordable as I possible can especially the 12 LEDs one since that is one I want as many people to have. Just looking at it would be a joy. The good news is you only have to purchase the host once. It should last a lifetime and upgrades down the road wont be too pricey. Future lego parts are also in the planning to make the light suitable for even more audiences. Also if the light is made from 2011 we might be able to drop the price may be $50. If we go 6061 may be a bit more…But I suspect once we have 7075 in hand it might be worth it just to go all out with this metal. I cant wait to get my hands on it.

Are you saying that the light engines can be swapped like P60?

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SKV89 wrote:
vinhnguyen54 wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
This is basically a custom Made-in-the-USA light in very limited quantities. Given the manufacturing cost here and the amount of time and effort spent developing and testing this light, even at $300, I don’t see how it is profitable, but it is a good start and is probably the 1st USA made light geared toward flashlight enthusiasts so I will definitely buy one to give my support. Hopefully the 12-emitter version won’t be too much more expensive than the others. Wink I will probably supply my own emitters

Not much I can do about the host price. I am lucky Larry help with the drawings all for FREE. Otherwise I wouldn’t make a single dime on it if not acatully lose money. The light engine is where I am hoping to make the profit. However I will make them as affordable as I possible can especially the 12 LEDs one since that is one I want as many people to have. Just looking at it would be a joy. The good news is you only have to purchase the host once. It should last a lifetime and upgrades down the road wont be too pricey. Future lego parts are also in the planning to make the light suitable for even more audiences. Also if the light is made from 2011 we might be able to drop the price may be $50. If we go 6061 may be a bit more…But I suspect once we have 7075 in hand it might be worth it just to go all out with this metal. I cant wait to get my hands on it.

Are you saying that the light engines can be swapped like P60?

Yes. The user can swap light engines anytime they want. Future upgrades to the light engine or to replace with a new one is a breeze.

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vinhnguyen54 wrote:
JamesB wrote:
Would be interesting to submit say a convoy S2 or an other reasonably priced tube light to the same test at the same time to have a baseline and validate the design choices.

I remember some years back at CPF people were suspecting a particular light with very thin walls would be fragile, someone torture tested it in like manner and it passed with flying colors.

I ran over a light which I wont name and it didnt hold up the first run over asphalt with the truck. I decided not make a video on it as putting down another brand isn’t my intention. I am not trying to display what other brand lights cant do. I simply want to shows what mines can. Other brand lights will do many many things mine can’t. They night not pass all my 12 tests so far but they might pass other tests that are more crucial to the decision such as looks and functions that mine will not provide. As a light enthusiast, I honestly treasure and enjoy them all (except for ***Fire clones). No point is putting down another to validate my design choices.

The toughest test was likely the “@ depth” and the “Drag It”. I suspect most of my other lights will not pass those tests. Yet, I know mines will not pass the tests that those lights will have for mine…

I watched all the tests and I was impressed. However, JamesB is right: how can I know if other lights would pass the same tests? Also Acebeam, Thrunite, Zebralight, etc. produce lights that seem very robust and resistant. Without the possibility of comparations I can only say that this light is really reliable and of excellent quality and that I would buy it without any doubts. But I cannot say with absolute certainty that it is better than the others lights. On the other hand, this was not Vinh’s intention.

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I’m curious how the light engines connect to the host? Is it threaded in? Any pics? I hope the heat transfer will be much better than the P60 that has a big air gap between the pill and the host. Also any chance of copper pills for better heat transfer?

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I’m curious how the light engines connect to the host? Is it threaded in? Any pics? I hope the heat transfer will be much better than the P60 that has a big air gap between the pill and the host. Also any chance of copper pills for better heat transfer?

I will have details before launch but as you can see from my Heat Test 2 heat is transfer very well. Light heat up instantly & the readings climb instantly. This is also evident by the 4000L Quad White 2 LED set up indicating that there is very good electrical contacts as well. Multi emitter light engines are solid copper. 12LED light engine gets the most copper..

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 I don’t think this is 100% MADE IN USA!! I see other pictures of light and you used made in China parts

 

 Not to mention you are using mtnelectronics as a supplier for this light and we all know that mtnelectonic is using made in China electronics!!

 

 I think it’s better to buy Oveready Boss than this one because Oveready Boss is 100% made in USA and Russia and the quality of Oveready is above and beyond anything else in the market

 not to mention you are going to ask ridiculous amount of money for it  !!!!

 It’s not worth it at all 

 

 Just think about it for a second if he takes 150-200$ for a light that cost 20$ shipped for just changing the led!!??

 

how much this one will cost and you know it’s not 100% made in USA 

 

 

 It’s better to be safe than sorry.. 

   

   

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14 LEDs??!! It’s 100% Mule and I am in if you show us some pictures 

I guess you are not in anymore…hahah

Not sure why you sound so bitter but I am sure everyone here are fully capable of making their own informed decision. Thanks for your input.

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Nichia wrote:

 I don’t think this is 100% MADE IN USA!! I see other pictures of light and you used made in China parts


 


 Not to mention you are using mtnelectronics as a supplier for this light and we all know that mtnelectonic is using made in China electronics!!


 


 I think it’s better to buy Oveready Boss than this one because Oveready Boss is 100% made in USA and Russia and the quality of Oveready is above and beyond anything else in the market


 not to mention you are going to ask ridiculous amount of money for it  !!!!


 It’s not worth it at all 


 


 Just think about it for a second if he takes 150-200$ for a light that cost 20$ shipped for just changing the led!!??


 


how much this one will cost and you know it’s not 100% made in USA 


 


 


 It’s better to be safe than sorry.. 


   


   

Please. Weren’t you the guy crying about people commenting in your sales thread.

You may have a (small) point, but there are better ways to have a conversation dude.

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Almost nothing is 100% made in any single country these days. Even Chinese brands like Huawei and OnePlus have components from USA, Korea, Japan, UK, etc. Skylumen is a USA brand and this light is 100% USA design and almost entirely USA made with maybe a few parts from China and this to me makes it special enough. Also made in China does not mean it’s bad. Apple products are made in China yet it’s quality and reliability is second to none. Even Samsung and Sony can’t come close to Apple products in reliability. Some cheapo low tier Chinese manufacturers gives China manufacturing a bad rep but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Use a larger and more reputable shop in China and you get quality to match. Tim Cook said the reason Apple can’t move manufacturing away from China is the skill, precision, and quality of manufacturing China provides. So if the right parts and chosen whether it comes from the USA or China, and Vinh thoroughly tested it, I see no reason to doubt the quality of this light will be top notch.

I’m sure Oveready Boss is good quality but for about the same price, I rather get it from Vinh given the number of Skylumen lights I own and love. Also comparing this SLN to “likely” similar price lights from Oveready’s website, the SLN has more of what I want.

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vinhnguyen54 wrote:
Multi emitter light engines are solid copper. 12LED light engine gets the most copper..

YESSS!!!!!!!!!!! Love Thumbs Up

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PM SkyLumen to discuss this.

Nichia wrote:

 Go ahead and blow 400$+ for Made in China light… and forget about the Boss which is absolutely premium quality and nothing like it


 


 think about it for a second HDS, Oveready, Surefire, Malkoff…..etc


 Big Names in the flashlights industry with decades of experience behind them and with TRUE LIFE TIME WARRANTY as I tried them many times (Surefire and Oveready and Malkoff) with costumer service SECOND TO NONE 


 


 for just a fraction of the price of what he is going to claim


 


 This (skylumen) or whatever you want to call it.. it’s NOT BRAND NAME!! it’s just a guy who do mods to made in China lights 


 


 just like every single one here and he always asks for sky high prices 


 


 driver Vn you say??? !! That’s a good one 


 


 Maybe you don’t know but it’s driver made by mtnelectronics owner from 100% China parts 


 and yet he called it VN like he the one who made it!!!??


 Anyone can buy these drivers from mtnelectronics for no more than 20$!

Malkoff !

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Nichia wrote:

 Go ahead and blow 400$+ for Made in China light… and forget about the Boss which is absolutely premium quality and nothing like it


 


 think about it for a second HDS, Oveready, Surefire, Malkoff…..etc


 Big Names in the flashlights industry with decades of experience behind them and with TRUE LIFE TIME WARRANTY as I tried them many times (Surefire and Oveready and Malkoff) with costumer service SECOND TO NONE 


 


 for just a fraction of the price of what he is going to claim


 


 This (skylumen) or whatever you want to call it.. it’s NOT BRAND NAME!! it’s just a guy who do mods to made in China lights 


 


 just like every single one here and he always asks for sky high prices 


 


 driver Vn you say??? !! That’s a good one 


 


 Maybe you don’t know but it’s driver made by mtnelectronics owner from 100% China parts 


 and yet he called it VN like he the one who made it!!!??


 Anyone can buy these drivers from mtnelectronics for no more than 20$!


So your bent on truth in advertising …..Would you be happy with… 99% made in the USA (with limited imported components) 100% USA designed/assembled Thumbs Up

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  In my life there is nothing absolutely nothing more important than THE TRUTH and honesty!

 

 It’s the fine line between good and evil between confidence and treason...etc 

Nichia 219B

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Nichia wrote:

  In my life there is nothing absolutely nothing more important than THE TRUTH and honesty!


 


 It’s the fine line between good and evil between confidence and treason…etc 

Sometimes 99% thruth is enough. Like when I say this is a friendly forum, where everyone is easy going and reasonable.

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 I don’t understand I swear to god I don’t understand is it 99% of truth it’s truth???!!!!

  

 Someone’s claiming that his flashlight is 100% made in the USA and NOT 99% and they will be asking for multiple hundreds of dollars for not even 60% made in the USA??!!

 Dose that make any sense to you??

 

 

 

 

Geuzzz wrote:
Nichia wrote:

  In my life there is nothing absolutely nothing more important than THE TRUTH and honesty!

 

 It’s the fine line between good and evil between confidence and treason...etc 

Sometimes 99% thruth is enough. Like when I say this is a friendly forum, where everyone is easy going and reasonable.

Nichia 219B

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Nichia wrote:

 I don’t think this is 100% MADE IN USA!! I see other pictures of light and you used made in China parts


 


 Not to mention you are using mtnelectronics as a supplier for this light and we all know that mtnelectonic is using made in China electronics!!


 


 I think it’s better to buy Oveready Boss than this one because Oveready Boss is 100% made in USA and Russia and the quality of Oveready is above and beyond anything else in the market


 not to mention you are going to ask ridiculous amount of money for it  !!!!


 It’s not worth it at all 


 


 Just think about it for a second if he takes 150-200$ for a light that cost 20$ shipped for just changing the led!!??


 


how much this one will cost and you know it’s not 100% made in USA 


 


 


 It’s better to be safe than sorry.. 


   


   

Please. Weren’t you the guy crying about people commenting in your sales thread.

You may have a (small) point, but there are better ways to have a conversation dude.

Yes, he is.

I pity Vinh in this regard, imagine he is just presenting/sharing his new flashlight ( and not even selling it a this time) and he gets comments like this, in his own thread at that!

Oh well, talk about not seeing yourself in the mirror! Perhaps he forgot that what’s good for the goose is also good for the gander.

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Cooper:
Hey TARS, what’s your honesty parameter?

TARS:
90 percent.

Cooper:
90 percent?

TARS:
Absolute honesty isn’t always the most diplomatic nor the safest form of communication with emotional beings.

Cooper:
Okay, 90 percent it is.

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agreed.

CRX wrote:
Cooper:
Hey TARS, what’s your honesty parameter?

TARS:
90 percent.

Cooper:
90 percent?

TARS:
Absolute honesty isn’t always the most diplomatic nor the safest form of communication with emotional beings.

Cooper:
Okay, 90 percent it is.

Malkoff !

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I have been quite busy and often stressful between different jobs and this light development that I lose sleep almost daily. However, this is quite entertaining. I enjoy it very much.

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Talking about honesty, Vinh, I am honest, I will never be able to afford a light like this, even though I don’t know the price yet!

However, truth be said, this will be one of the most robust and “take me everywhere and I won’t fail you” lights ever built!! I am sure of that!

Also, seeing your tests and your enthusiasm when you say “I cannot kill it, it’s still working”, deserves an honorable mention! It is indeed great!

BTW, I guess you are familiar with Simon Mao (Convoy) tests, so you’ll know this video…specially the part in which he boils the light TURNED ON into the water Wink

Wanna try it with the cell inside? Evil

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It will die. Army buddy is setting me up for a military vehicle drive over. Which model vehcicle we will find out. Also have several pistol calibers to throw at it. The only debate is if I should save those tests for the production 7075 or try it on both beginning with the current proto 6061 model too to see if there is a noticable difference. Another buddy might also be able to get me into a 4 story building to attempt another drop test. Hopefuly we can make that happen.

I wont likely boil the light with a battery inside but who knows…

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Nichia wrote:

 Go ahead and blow 400$+ for Made in China light… and forget about the Boss which is absolutely premium quality and nothing like it


 


 think about it for a second HDS, Oveready, Surefire, Malkoff…..etc


 Big Names in the flashlights industry with decades of experience behind them and with TRUE LIFE TIME WARRANTY as I tried them many times (Surefire and Oveready and Malkoff) with costumer service SECOND TO NONE 


 


 for just a fraction of the price of what he is going to claim


 


 This (skylumen) or whatever you want to call it.. it’s NOT BRAND NAME!! it’s just a guy who do mods to made in China lights 


 


 just like every single one here and he always asks for sky high prices 


 


 driver Vn you say??? !! That’s a good one 


 


 Maybe you don’t know but it’s driver made by mtnelectronics owner from 100% China parts 


 and yet he called it VN like he the one who made it!!!??


 Anyone can buy these drivers from mtnelectronics for no more than 20$!

Not sure how you can just openly lie saying this light is made in China when in fact it is made in the US with maybe a few parts from MTN electronics that comes from China. I made many purchases from Mountain Electronics and everything is good quality. The owner, Richard McDougal, is well known on BLF, and he never tries to hide where his parts come from.

I frequent Vinh’s forums on CPF and he made many mentions in the past that his drivers are made by MTN. All of Vinh’s loyal customers know about it. I mean if even someone like yourself know about it, why do you think there’s any deception involved? It’s public knowledge. Vinh gives credit to Richard all the time.

Also none of the brands you mentioned have anything that comes close to the incredible performance of some of those VN modded China lights. Price wise, labor in the US is expensive and Vinh does this for a living. He is not ripping anybody off. No one is forcing his customers to buy from him. However, the brands you mentioned are even more expensive and the performance in the majority of them are just laughable relative to today’s tech.

You’re telling people not to buy his products because it’s “NOT BRAND NAME” and that he is just a guy modding China lights like anyone else on this forum.

The world’s biggest and most profitable brand started in the garage of this house by a nobody named Steve Jobs.

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Let’s just not keep adding to his fuel. We all here pretty much know what’s truth and what isn’t.

Anyways, great looking light Vihn. I feel like here recently there has been a boost of destructive testing from all brands, especially on social media. Thanks for showing us your version of it. Very entertaining! Keep it up.

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Nichia, your posts in this thread come off as very inappropriate, to say the least. You have no interest in this light, so maybe just find a different thread to participate in.

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Ignore him.

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You’re right, that is good advice. I will try.

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