Have you ordered your BLF LT1 yet?

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What I understand is that you need a code for buying via Amazon, but not for buying via Ebay or aliexpress.

For Ebay and aliexpress, you need to wait with paying, notify Sofirn your BLF username, then Sofirn checks your name on the list, then the price is adjusted. Apparently Sofirn is ok with any place on the list, not just with positions in the first 500.

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Except the posts you refer him to don’t say what your summary says. He doesn’t need to wait for a code.

Yes, I wrote in circles. Facepalm

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Paul321 wrote:
Wait for the code, Sofirn are sending the codes manually , it will take some time to get the code, also I believe the code is good for one unit. You may not be able to buy more than one with given code at the group buy price, this is my observations based on what I read.

>> READ Post #7717 >>> http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1569123#comment-1569123
>> AND Post #7718 >>> http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1569127#comment-1569127

I hope this helps prevent further melt downs

Thank you Paul321

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My order got updated to shipped

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I think this hasn’t been answered directly yet, this is what I understand. Sofirn built up a first run of 500 units. Sofirn is limiting the purchase quantity to 1 per person for those first 500 units to allow as many different people as possible to get the lantern. Sometime after the next batch is made (or maybe even the third batch?) I expect those who are on the list for multiple lanterns will be able to purchase more than one at a time.

Other than possible ethical issues, there is no reason that an individual can not purchase one from Amazon (assuming they got the code), one from ebay, and one from Ali in the first 500 units. I won’t, as I would like to stick with Sofirn’s desire to get more people’s hands on this gem.

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If I speculate on Sofirn’s perspective:

For a small company as they are, they invested a lot of time, labour and money in the lantern, and perhaps they may even go bancrupt over the lantern if it fails. But given that they went with almost everything that Den and BLF wanted from it, they really must have trusted BLF that this lantern is worth developing the way it is made now. Mind that Sofirn is not build around flashlight fanatics, like Foursevens or Emisar or Convoy, they can not beforehand judge new developments on their value like those other companies can.

But now that the Lantern is ready and they have also invested in 500 pieces, I can imagine that despite the trust they feel uneasy about the investment, so I can understand if they are not 100% concerned about selling in the precise order and right timing desired by BLF, but also a bit concerned about getting the 500 sold at all whichever way, getting them already part of their investment back. Later with batches 2 and 3, having some money back in their account and having found that the sales go well they will relax a bit more.

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If they are worried about them not selling, why limit the amount people can buy? Surely if one person buys 10 then it’s better as try get the stock shifted quicker and more return on investment.

I think that also they are simply trying their best to do it the best way that they think BLF wants it. But perhaps people in the lantern team are actually informed while I am just speculating.
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If they are worried about them not selling, why limit the amount people can buy? Surely if one person buys 10 then it’s better as try get the stock shifted quicker and more return on investment.

I think that also they are simply trying their best to do it the best way that they think BLF wants it. But perhaps people in the lantern team are actually informed while I am just speculating.

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Sofirn is limiting the purchase quantity to 1 per person for those first 500 units to allow as many different people as possible to get the lantern.

The second quote is of me a few posts above. It is also my paraphrase of Barry’s statement in the team chat as to why they wanted to limit the purchase of the first 500 to 1 per person.

There are way more than 500 people interested in purchasing this lantern. Some want to wait until colors are available. Some (me) wanted to wait until colors are available, but bought one anyway.

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The precise details of what Sofirn’s factory can do and how they project-plan their capacity are commercially sensitive information. I would be very surprised if any company ever discloses information like that on BLF for their competitors to see.

As I understand it, Sofirn already have 500 units of the LT1 in stock right now, with manufacturing of the second batch currently in progress.

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So what’s to stop someone from buying one on eBay or aliexpress using someone else’s BLF ID? There’s no way for Sofirn to know that the eBay or AE account is owned by the same person as the BLF ID from the interest list that’s being used for the transaction. I’m not advocating anyone do that, and I think it would be pretty crappy, but several of the current sales methods could be abused (once the interest list hits 3000).

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Stereodude wrote:
derfyled wrote:
I’m getting dizzy and confused with everything… Tired Sorry if I’m being dumb but just can’t figure out what is happening.

What should I do if I’m on the list (3x) but want them with battery ?

My first one is within the 500 first.

Do I order only one for now and then wait for the second batch ?

Do I need to wait for a code ?

Buy it on ebay,ca ? Amazon,ca ?

My old and tired brain is melting…

Great questions. It’s not very clear. It sounds like you can just submit an offer on eBay.com with your BLF name and get one for $49.99 (USD) regardless of your position on the list. It also seems like you can only buy one for now.
it is one per person from what is reported, also it looks like eBay circumvents the order of the list. Also eBay hit me with added tax all of a sudden on my two razors this week I bought.

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So what’s to stop someone from buying one on eBay or aliexpress using someone else’s BLF ID? There’s no way for Sofirn to know that the eBay or AE account is owned by the same person as the BLF ID from the interest list that’s being used for the transaction. I’m not advocating anyone do that, and I think it would be pretty crappy, but several of the current sales methods could be abused (once the interest list hits 3000).

Maybe they have a spreadsheet that tracks your blf handle. Like for me, they send me a code and logged it under my blf handle, then when I try on eBay, they ask for me blf handle and if I give them dealgrabber2002, they can see the code already been given out via Amazon.

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It is not a foolproof system, and that is not essential either in my opinion, if things do not go seriously wrong everyone on the list will eventually get their lantern for the discounted price. This is no different from the other BLF projects, lots of irregularities in the sales process but in the end all the people got their lights and the manufacturer got their money.

(one exception and it was me organising it Facepalm : the double UV Romisen project from years ago went wrong, only 50 lights were produced for a list of 200, it was completely random who got their lights and who did not)

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djozz wrote:

(one exception and it was me organising it Facepalm : the double UV Romisen project from years ago went wrong, only 50 lights were produced for a list of 200, it was completely random who got their lights and who did not)

I forgot about that aspect of the UV Romisen project...

I was one of the lucky few that got one of the flashlights!  8^)

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.#256 chinooker ordered at Amazon w/code from PM

edit (corrected my order #803 which was my 2nd request which I haven’t received yet)

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What was your estimated arrival date? Mine showed Nov 7 earliest…I’m 106 on the list…

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Arriving Nov 7 – Dec 2

sofirn BLF LT1 Lantern, LED Rechargeable Camping Lantern,Batteries Excluded
Sold by: Sofirn

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Thanks! Now for the long wait, I guess.

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I am hoping their qc is good. I usually don’t buy the first batch because I am afraid of glitches. Returning oversea for repair is a PITA.

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I’m trying to order it…but waiting for a better price Ughh

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Supposed to be $49.. some paid tax and some don’t.

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Tally-ho wrote:
I’m trying to order it…but waiting for a better price Ughh

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Dang….

I guess ordering for arrival the day before you’ve actually ordered has some really steep expediting fees!

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djozz wrote:
Good thread, if people use it well it filters a lot of noise out of the lantern thread.

Just ordered one on Aliexpress. I’m not in the first 500 on the list but I anticipated on some first500people to want to wait for the 2nd batch Innocent . I ordered but stopped just before paying, then the order appeared in my order history as unpayed. From the order history I contacted the seller for a discount mentioning my BLF name. An hour later the price appeared adjusted and I finished payment.

Aliexpress rules dictate the item to be shipped within 5 days, so I assume that Sofirn has stock at the moment.

I also did order one from Aliexpress even if listed in the late 2000 numbers, since I also will get code when the lights are produced if planed from Sofirn

Not only that we have likely with the very extended time frame from first interests numbers cases of:
- shifted interest to other hobby
- not enough money till Christmas
- left forum
- banned because of rude behavior
- deceased people Sad RIP
and so on

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I ordered mine soon after Sofirn started sending out PMs. This is the info I have so far. FWIW, it was ordered through Amazon.

Thursday, October 17
3:43 AM
Package has left the carrier facility
GuangDongShengGuangZhouShi 51040034,
1:04 AM
Package has left the carrier facility
GuangDongShengGuangZhouShi 51016508,
12:16 AM
Item has been picked up by carrier.
GuangDongShengGuangZhouShi 51016508,
Sunday, October 13
Package has shipped

Supposedly it’ll arrive between Nov 7 and Dec 2. I paid tax too and not to CA but to Maine.

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I hope you ordered yours, it’s currently unavailable on Amazon.

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dealgrabber2002 wrote:
I hope you ordered yours, it’s currently unavailable on Amazon.

Enhance your Calm, Deal Grabber Two Thousand and Two.

Batch #2 – both production and notification/sales are being worked on. When the stars align and the cats are herded the LT1 will, like the spring, come back to grace us all.

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Customs declaration completed for mine 1 day and 4 hours ago. Guessing 10 to 14 days from now it’ll show up.

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Geronimo wrote:
Customs declaration completed for mine 1 day and 4 hours ago. Guessing 10 to 14 days from now it’ll show up.

OK – silly question of the day — how can you tell that customs has or has cleared your package? All I’ve ever seen is, well, nothing.

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amishbill wrote:
Geronimo wrote:
Customs declaration completed for mine 1 day and 4 hours ago. Guessing 10 to 14 days from now it’ll show up.

OK – silly question of the day — how can you tell that customs has or has cleared your package? All I’ve ever seen is, well, nothing.
I used the tracking number from eBay.it has processed customs in China. Stateside takes awhile, USPS updates suck.

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