Review: Lumintop EDC18

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Review: Lumintop EDC18

Many of you know about BLF FW3A. This is a niche forum model – a compact, bright flashlight with a combination of Anduril’s flexible interface and tail-button control. It seems that the audience of BLF ate the whole release of FW3A and wanted more. Demand gives rise to a proposal – not so long ago, Lumintop, who was in charge of producing FW3A, rolled out not only two similar FW models (with the same bright light, but 21,700 power and a relatively long-range reflector with 18650 power), but also the adaptation of this FW3A to the usual form of a flashlight with side button. I’ll tell you about these first two a little later, and today I’ll talk about EDC18.

LUMINTOP EDC18 official page
there is 20% discount for any order above 20USD , so you can use it there LMT2010

you also can buy EDC18 at ALIEXPRESS or BANGGOOD

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Package and appearance.

All the same beige cardboard box which Lumintop use now to pack all flashlights. Outside is a dust jacket with the contours of a flashlight. Inside is still a full box of thick cardboard. As a gift it will look poor. But from the standpoint of reliability during transportation, everything is fine.


Inside, in foam rubber, there is a set consisting of a flashlight with a diffusor put on it, detailed instructions, a clip and a small bag with lanyard + a pair of o-ring.


The flashlight is actually compact. This is really a very compact flashlight for 18650 power, only 93mm.

As for the appearance, I do not see any elegant design here. Basically, that is the same EDC05. There is also no Convoy brutal simplicity here. Short weighty carcass with black matte anodizing. It can be seen that the flashlight is not a basement product, but I would describe that the design is not bad, but nothing more than this.


A strong magnet is located in the tail. This is good as itself, and given the fact that the kit also comes with a diffuser, it’s generally wonderful (the last one will be at the end of the review). In fairness, if you drag such a flashlight in your pocket next to your wallet, you may have problems with demagnetizing cards.

The spring in the tail is thick, double, which is logical, taking into account the declared maximum brightness.

Many of you know about BLF FW3A. This is a niche forum model – a compact, bright flashlight with a combination of Anduril’s flexible interface and tail-button control. It seems that the audience of BLF ate the whole release of FW3A and wanted more. Demand gives rise to a proposal – not so long ago, Lumintop, who was in charge of producing FW3A, rolled out not only two similar FW models (with the same bright light, but 21,700 power and a relatively long-range reflector with 18650 power), but also the adaptation of this FW3A to the usual form of a flashlight with side button. I’ll tell you about these first two a little later, and today I’ll talk about EDC18.

LUMINTOP EDC18 official page
there is 20% discount for any order above 20USD , so you can use it there LMT2010

you also can buy EDC18 at ALIEXPRESS or BANGGOOD

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Package and appearance.

All the same beige cardboard box which Lumintop use now to pack all flashlights. Outside is a dust jacket with the contours of a flashlight. Inside is still a full box of thick cardboard. As a gift it will look poor. But from the standpoint of reliability during transportation, everything is fine.


Inside, in foam rubber, there is a set consisting of a flashlight with a diffusor put on it, detailed instructions, a clip and a small bag with lanyard + a pair of o-ring.


The flashlight is actually compact. This is really a very compact flashlight for 18650 power, only 93mm.

As for the appearance, I do not see any elegant design here. Basically, that is the same EDC05. There is also no Convoy brutal simplicity here. Short weighty carcass with black matte anodizing. It can be seen that the flashlight is not a basement product, but I would describe that the design is not bad, but nothing more than this.


A strong magnet is located in the tail. This is good as itself, and given the fact that the kit also comes with a diffuser, it’s generally wonderful (the last one will be at the end of the review). In fairness, if you drag such a flashlight in your pocket next to your wallet, you may have problems with demagnetizing cards.

The spring in the tail is thick, double, which is logical, taking into account the declared maximum brightness.

The thread is well lubricated from the side of the tail and mediocre from the side of the head. In any case, for many users blocking EDC18 by opening a contact with one hand will be problematic – it take real effort to twist head , skills of fisting will seriously simplify this task.


It is important to mention that protected button-top batteries will not work. They are too long and the head will not completely spin. Regular flat-top or unprotected button top – no problem.

There is also a spring on the side of the head. As an option to solve the problem above, they could just make a contact pad, which would be slightly above the level of stabilizers. I do not consider the presence of a spring in head critical for EDC flashlight, though.


The knurling here is the most primitive, smooth and frankly not tenacious. As you can see, there are two seats for the clip – so it can be positioned as wanted.

The clip can be removed with reasonable effort. But clip grip is relatively weak, it will be possible to accidentally pull a flashlight out of pants pocket.

!{width:100%}https://www.ixbt.com/live/uploads/images/original/04/96/13/2019/10/30/bf....!{width:100%}

But in the grip, the clip does what it needs to, the grip with it becomes quite comfortable.


Medium sized button with green backlight. It lays on a smooth surface and finding it blindly is easy. The only question is that such an arrangement and bulge can be problematic from the position of accidental turning flashlight on.

I think it would be more appropriate to place the button in a small recession. On the other hand, there is a software lock and a traditional mechanical, contact

The cooling fins are quite deep, but taking into account their number and maximum brightness, size of EDC18, I wouldn’t really overestimate their ability to somehow affect the heatdissipation

Despite the fact that the bezel is flush, unscrewing it is not an effort.

There is a standart TIR optic under bezel, and 3 LEDs under this TIR. I think that it will be possible to find something with other light distribution angle. There is no glass, but I do not see this as a problem. Scratching acrylic at such a depth will be problematic, and even then, given the general diffused nature of the light, it should not affect the world in any way.

There are many options for LEDs, in my case it was 3 XPL-HI. So everything looks neat.

That’s all. Appearance is tolerable. As a gift it will be of little use, but for myself, to carry around in my pocket is quite normal.

UI

Anduril. And those who has more than 5 flashlights seems to already understood what it is. Maximum flexibility and the accompanying need to scratch your head if you want to go deeper than just turning on / off and switching modes.

From what is worth mentioning – here it is necessary to calibrate the temperature sensor. I saw 42 degrees instead of 25 real ones, that is, it heated very quickly.

Those. go to the temperature settings (3 clicks) then 2 times 2 times – we get into temp chec. you need to compare the readings of the flashlight with an external thermometer. if you see 4 and 2 blinks, that is 42 degrees, while the thermometer shows 26 – you need to intervene. I had to. you need to make 2 clicks, you will see a couple of blinks and bzzzz. during bezz, you need to click the real temperature, click it, there will be a pause and a second pair of blinks, after which there will be another bzzz – here we go to the thermal cut-off setting. It works on the principle of 30C + the number of clicks. those. if you click 40 times, the thermal cut-off temperature will be set to 70 degrees. By default, it is set to 45 degrees, I set it to 50.

Something like that. Basic, of course. Also, for example, you can set the ceiling level (I remind you – it is scrolled to the ceiling, not to the turbo), played with frequent gates.

Very flexible. Highly. This is a plus and a minus. My eyes are poking on my forehead when I saw this papier with a bunch of all kinds of settings, because between the moments of getting a new flashlight with Anduril I clearly forget all these nuances. For the average user, this may be an occasion to throw a flashlight away. In the sense that you can use it right away, but there is a chance to accidentally climb up somewhere in the wrong direction, starting to foolishly press the button hysterically.

On the other hand, flashaholivs and fans of customization of UI for their needs will get what they need.

I am sincerely convinced that the need to do all this will significantly limit the circle of flashlight buyers. So, getting used to it, there are no problems. To give someone like “On, mand, i have a gift for you” will not be cool, this UI is too complicated for Average user.

How the Lumintop EDC18 shines

For the greater marketing beauty of the photos (which for the manufacturer is equal to brightness) in my case, the flashlight came with 3xXPL-Hi. All in all, I got diffused cold light. Not as cold as that of the same Convoy S2 + in its cheapest form. In appearance, this is looks close to 5500K, rather than 6500K, there is no such fall in cyanosis tone.

And if light distribution will be, in general, unchanged, then the color temperature and CRI and partly the brightness can already be varied by the choice of other LEDs: Nichia or SST20. I think that the target audience of this flashlight and the entire FW series in the vast majority will not hunt for lumens and will give preference to the quality of light.

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/720_beam.gif!

Given the size of the flashlight, the stabilization is extremely important here.

first you need to figure out what’s with the brightness. As such, there are NO brightness modes in the specification except the muggle mode with a brightness of 240 degrees. Marking it as a reference point on the luxmeter, you can build brightness readings for other modes.

so, 7 brightness levels
1 4.8lums / 2 28lums / 3 75 lums / 4 156lums / 5 302lums / 6 480lums / 7 806 lums turbo shows to be exactly 10 times more than the muggle mode, i.e. 2400 lum.

Before you look closely at the graphs, it is worth recalling that they are valid only for my setting of thermal cut-off at 50 degrees and for XPL-HI 6500K and are NOT universal.

So, that Muggle mode.

5h

6th level

7th level

turbo

I have a mixed impression. On the one hand, there is stabilization, and this is good. Even a turbo does not turn into a 3-second flash, you can actually get some practical amount of time to look around.

On the other hand, the flashlight shows that it is able to work stably somewhere in around 500 lumens only when cooled, falling from there to the level of the same Muggle mode. In fairness, I believe that in street use it will still be possible not to be afraid of such stepdown (especially if you lift the threshold for thermal cut-off of degrees up to 60).

If you climb into a turbo, an attempt to shine well will result in stepdown to the level of the same Muggle mode.

Technically, you can raise the threshold for thermal cut-off of degrees up to 70, but then you can use the flashlight only with gloves on. In my measurements, I proceeded from some ordinary cases of use.

In general, there is something good to say and something to complain about. If you don’t have a habit of using more than 500 lumens (I don’t have), then there are almost no chances to face early stepdown.

I mentioned the diffuser. The thing is actually useful.

5 lumens of minimum brightness will also fit in the room volume of the same attic. But there is no reall moonlight mode, alas. However, the light here is quite diffused and convenient.

I will not evaluate each of the 7 modes, they are not so different. I will tell you about the main

the Muggle mode, as well as the 5th close to it, are quite normal for everyday light. shine under your feet and around so that you can walk without fear, this mode is really good for it.

7th mode (ceiling) – in the default settings it will give enough light for maximum ordinary needs, from which there is some sense even at a distance of 75m. In ordinary walkaround situations, you may not need it, 800 lumens is actually a lot.

turbo, albeit time limited, but enough to give a good light that illuminates everything on all sides with a range of about 75 with. If you need to quickly illuminate everything around as wide as possible and at least as far as possible, then this is just for this.







as for throw… of course, there is no reason to expect any throw with such optics.

But, to my surprise, the Lumintop EDC18 gave enough light to confidently illuminate even the 75m distance not only in turbo mode, but also in 7m mode. But I would not expect anything more. Well, maybe a hundred meters in a short turbo.




there are more examples in utube review

OVERALL impressions

I have really mixed impression.

For me it is more like a forum thing that Lumintop decided to throw into the mass market. After all,see how much advantages has EDC18 — UI is flexible, there is magnet at the tail, and the brightness is spectacular with really compact sizes, and the light can be chosen for you from three options of LEDs, and the light itselfs is diffused and very convenient for working near.

It is not surprising that in the comments on my channel I often saw questions on the review of this model. Too much was tempting here.

But in reality, what did it all turn out to be? It is 100% necessary to calibrate or at least check the temperature sensor, which will be challenge for average users. The flexibility of the settings lead into the need to remember most of these combinations, it is definitely really very bright for its size, but it is not that bright as stated and drains up a battery in turbo in direct drive, so even this level can be reached only on a full battery.

No, of course, all this did not turn EDC18 in bad model. But EDC 18 is not that good in what other 18650 flashlights do with no problems – namely, to maintain a stable brightness without cooling at a level above about 500 lumens. In fairness, with such a small size, I would treat this as a real disadvantage. Yes, and you can somehow get around this issue by raising the level of thermal cutoff.

In short, for me, in its functionality and size , Lumintop EDC18 has become something like a large 14500 flashlight. A compact thing with a stock of enormous brightness for emergency needs. For me personally, this brightness may even be excessive, so I will most likely not feel any inconvenience in using EDC18.

This can not be said about all those who are fascinated by the number of 2800 lumens and want to get a sort of pocket rocket. Such a part of potential buyers should keep in mind how dimensions affect the ability of the flashlight to sustain maximum brightness. 30 seconds is also a lot, in general, but not much.

But if you have no plans to climb above that way 500 lumens, grab SST or Nichia then I believe that you will not feel any discomfort in use and enjoy using Lumintop EDC18 .

In short, I advise you to approach the purchase of this flashlight with the utmost discretion. And I hope my review helped weigh the pros and cons.https://www.ixbt.com/live/uploads/images/original/04/96/13/2019/10/30/85...!

The thread is well lubricated from the side of the tail and mediocre from the side of the head. In any case, for many users blocking EDC18 by opening a contact with one hand will be problematic – it take real effort to twist head , skills of fisting will seriously simplify this task.


It is important to mention that protected button-top batteries will not work. They are too long and the head will not completely spin. Regular flat-top or unprotected button top – no problem.

There is also a spring on the side of the head. As an option to solve the problem above, they could just make a contact pad, which would be slightly above the level of stabilizers. I do not consider the presence of a spring in head critical for EDC flashlight, though.


The knurling here is the most primitive, smooth and frankly not tenacious. As you can see, there are two seats for the clip – so it can be positioned as wanted.

The clip can be removed with reasonable effort. But clip grip is relatively weak, it will be possible to accidentally pull a flashlight out of pants pocket.

!{width:100%}https://www.ixbt.com/live/uploads/images/original/04/96/13/2019/10/30/bf....!{width:100%}

But in the grip, the clip does what it needs to, the grip with it becomes quite comfortable.


Medium sized button with green backlight. It lays on a smooth surface and finding it blindly is easy. The only question is that such an arrangement and bulge can be problematic from the position of accidental turning flashlight on.

I think it would be more appropriate to place the button in a small recession. On the other hand, there is a software lock and a traditional mechanical, contact

The cooling fins are quite deep, but taking into account their number and maximum brightness, size of EDC18, I wouldn’t really overestimate their ability to somehow affect the heatdissipation

Despite the fact that the bezel is flush, unscrewing it is not an effort.

There is a standart TIR optic under bezel, and 3 LEDs under this TIR. I think that it will be possible to find something with other light distribution angle. There is no glass, but I do not see this as a problem. Scratching acrylic at such a depth will be problematic, and even then, given the general diffused nature of the light, it should not affect the world in any way.

There are many options for LEDs, in my case it was 3 XPL-HI. So everything looks neat.

That’s all. Appearance is tolerable. As a gift it will be of little use, but for myself, to carry around in my pocket is quite normal.

UI

Anduril. And those who has more than 5 flashlights seems to already understood what it is. Maximum flexibility and the accompanying need to scratch your head if you want to go deeper than just turning on / off and switching modes.

From what is worth mentioning – here it is necessary to calibrate the temperature sensor. I saw 42 degrees instead of 25 real ones, that is, it heated very quickly.

Those. go to the temperature settings (3 clicks) then 2 times 2 times – we get into temp chec. you need to compare the readings of the flashlight with an external thermometer. if you see 4 and 2 blinks, that is 42 degrees, while the thermometer shows 26 – you need to intervene. I had to. you need to make 2 clicks, you will see a couple of blinks and bzzzz. during bezz, you need to click the real temperature, click it, there will be a pause and a second pair of blinks, after which there will be another bzzz – here we go to the thermal cut-off setting. It works on the principle of 30C + the number of clicks. those. if you click 40 times, the thermal cut-off temperature will be set to 70 degrees. By default, it is set to 45 degrees, I set it to 50.

Something like that. Basic, of course. Also, for example, you can set the ceiling level (I remind you – it is scrolled to the ceiling, not to the turbo), played with frequent gates.

Very flexible. Highly. This is a plus and a minus. My eyes are poking on my forehead when I saw this papier with a bunch of all kinds of settings, because between the moments of getting a new flashlight with Anduril I clearly forget all these nuances. For the average user, this may be an occasion to throw a flashlight away. In the sense that you can use it right away, but there is a chance to accidentally climb up somewhere in the wrong direction, starting to foolishly press the button hysterically.

On the other hand, flashaholivs and fans of customization of UI for their needs will get what they need.

I am sincerely convinced that the need to do all this will significantly limit the circle of flashlight buyers. So, getting used to it, there are no problems. To give someone like “On, mand, i have a gift for you” will not be cool, this UI is too complicated for Average user.

How the Lumintop EDC18 shines

For the greater marketing beauty of the photos (which for the manufacturer is equal to brightness) in my case, the flashlight came with 3xXPL-Hi. All in all, I got diffused cold light. Not as cold as that of the same Convoy S2 + in its cheapest form. In appearance, this is looks close to 5500K, rather than 6500K, there is no such fall in cyanosis tone.

And if light distribution will be, in general, unchanged, then the color temperature and CRI and partly the brightness can already be varied by the choice of other LEDs: Nichia or SST20. I think that the target audience of this flashlight and the entire FW series in the vast majority will not hunt for lumens and will give preference to the quality of light.

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/720_beam.gif!

Given the size of the flashlight, the stabilization is extremely important here.

first you need to figure out what’s with the brightness. As such, there are NO brightness modes in the specification except the muggle mode with a brightness of 240 degrees. Marking it as a reference point on the luxmeter, you can build brightness readings for other modes.

so, 7 brightness levels
1 4.8lums / 2 28lums / 3 75 lums / 4 156lums / 5 302lums / 6 480lums / 7 806 lums turbo shows to be exactly 10 times more than the muggle mode, i.e. 2400 lum.

Before you look closely at the graphs, it is worth recalling that they are valid only for my setting of thermal cut-off at 50 degrees and for XPL-HI 6500K and are NOT universal.

So, that Muggle mode.

5h

6th level

7th level

turbo

I have a mixed impression. On the one hand, there is stabilization, and this is good. Even a turbo does not turn into a 3-second flash, you can actually get some practical amount of time to look around.

On the other hand, the flashlight shows that it is able to work stably somewhere in around 500 lumens only when cooled, falling from there to the level of the same Muggle mode. In fairness, I believe that in street use it will still be possible not to be afraid of such stepdown (especially if you lift the threshold for thermal cut-off of degrees up to 60).

If you climb into a turbo, an attempt to shine well will result in stepdown to the level of the same Muggle mode.

Technically, you can raise the threshold for thermal cut-off of degrees up to 70, but then you can use the flashlight only with gloves on. In my measurements, I proceeded from some ordinary cases of use.

In general, there is something good to say and something to complain about. If you don’t have a habit of using more than 500 lumens (I don’t have), then there are almost no chances to face early stepdown.

I mentioned the diffuser. The thing is actually useful.

5 lumens of minimum brightness will also fit in the room volume of the same attic. But there is no reall moonlight mode, alas. However, the light here is quite diffused and convenient.

I will not evaluate each of the 7 modes, they are not so different. I will tell you about the main

the Muggle mode, as well as the 5th close to it, are quite normal for everyday light. shine under your feet and around so that you can walk without fear, this mode is really good for it.

7th mode (ceiling) – in the default settings it will give enough light for maximum ordinary needs, from which there is some sense even at a distance of 75m. In ordinary walkaround situations, you may not need it, 800 lumens is actually a lot.

turbo, albeit time limited, but enough to give a good light that illuminates everything on all sides with a range of about 75 with. If you need to quickly illuminate everything around as wide as possible and at least as far as possible, then this is just for this.







as for throw… of course, there is no reason to expect any throw with such optics.

But, to my surprise, the Lumintop EDC18 gave enough light to confidently illuminate even the 75m distance not only in turbo mode, but also in 7m mode. But I would not expect anything more. Well, maybe a hundred meters in a short turbo.




there are more examples in utube review

OVERALL impressions

I have really mixed impression.

For me it is more like a forum thing that Lumintop decided to throw into the mass market. After all,see how much advantages has EDC18 — UI is flexible, there is magnet at the tail, and the brightness is spectacular with really compact sizes, and the light can be chosen for you from three options of LEDs, and the light itselfs is diffused and very convenient for working near.

It is not surprising that in the comments on my channel I often saw questions on the review of this model. Too much was tempting here.

But in reality, what did it all turn out to be? It is 100% necessary to calibrate or at least check the temperature sensor, which will be challenge for average users. The flexibility of the settings lead into the need to remember most of these combinations, it is definitely really very bright for its size, but it is not that bright as stated and drains up a battery in turbo in direct drive, so even this level can be reached only on a full battery.

No, of course, all this did not turn EDC18 in bad model. But EDC 18 is not that good in what other 18650 flashlights do with no problems – namely, to maintain a stable brightness without cooling at a level above about 500 lumens. In fairness, with such a small size, I would treat this as a real disadvantage. Yes, and you can somehow get around this issue by raising the level of thermal cutoff.

In short, for me, in its functionality and size , Lumintop EDC18 has become something like a large 14500 flashlight. A compact thing with a stock of enormous brightness for emergency needs. For me personally, this brightness may even be excessive, so I will most likely not feel any inconvenience in using EDC18.

This can not be said about all those who are fascinated by the number of 2800 lumens and want to get a sort of pocket rocket. Such a part of potential buyers should keep in mind how dimensions affect the ability of the flashlight to sustain maximum brightness. 30 seconds is also a lot, in general, but not much.

But if you have no plans to climb above that way 500 lumens, thrn grab SST or Nichia then I believe that you will not feel any discomfort in use and enjoy using Lumintop EDC18 .

In short, I advise you to approach the purchase of this flashlight with the utmost discretion. And I hope my review helped weigh the pros and cons.

Edited by: Lumeniac on 11/02/2019 - 06:43
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I'm still testing mine, but so far I like it a lot.  There is a moon mode though. The ramped mode has the lowest seeing already.  In the stepped mode, you would have to go in and reconfigure it to a lower setting.  I had to do the same on my FW3A.

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Thanks for the review. I was under the impression that this light was the exact same as the Fw3a, just different form. Is that not true? Just wondering the differences in terms of using the light.

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yeah. you`ll not notice difference in light. 

 

may be there will be some diffference in charts, because different body have different ability to transder heat. EDC18 look more massive in this case, should be better. 

the rest is matter of choice.  

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yeah. you`ll not notice difference in light. 


 


may be there will be some diffference in charts, because different body have different ability to transder heat. EDC18 look more massive in this case, should be better. 


the rest is matter of choice.  

OK thanks. Very nice job with the review, thanks! There’s so many FW3A reviews, but not many for this light. I guess the FW HAS been out much longer, though.

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Thanks for the review.

Is the diffuser actually included as standard? Lumintop’s page states that it’s a separately sold accessory.

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not sure how things are now

 

i got it in my case

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Great review, thanks! Thumbs Up

I like this flashlight Cool

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the declared lumens are for xp-l … why not for all the other led options? just to understand the % of power loss in lumens

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After a lot of thinking which model I should get FW3A, EDC18 or other those pocket rockets I have finally made my mind. EDC18 and that side switch is a winner. Also because it has lighted bunny and Lumintop had to remove that from their logo so have to get one.

5000k’sh XP-L HI, but I have a few questions. What color of luminous gasket matches that button light?
Also does Carclo 10507 optic or some other improve throw or what optics option I have for this or is the stock one best?