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What is happening with China Post ?

I have about 15 orders that were shipped with China Post Registered Airmail and 7 of them appear to be returned back to the sellers.
And these are different products from different sellers on Aliexpress.
The tracking initially shows that package left from some town like Hangzhou, then it arrives in Beijing after like 1 month, then after “Customs Release” is going back to Hangzhou.
Usually the tracking is seller > Beijing > ship by Air > me

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X-Mas.
Probably overloaded.

Have you any idea the amount of tiny packages they handle.

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I don’t think it’s that. They don’t update the tracking at all.
I have a few with no more updates from the 30th.
And now 2 more orders are being sent back, so 9 total. wtf….

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Perhaps they did not use lithium battery warning labels ?

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No, they are not supposed to have batteries.
These are just simple every day items, like some pots, screws, coins ….
I asked some friends that order on Ali and it’s happening to them too.
I think there’s something going on with China Post. Perhaps it’s being affected by the HK riots ?
Maybe they are trying to ask for help through these packages and China Post is blocking all of them for inspection

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All my china post items have gotten through so far

11.11 and black friday orders

Its only the order from a particular brand that hasnt come for reasons BLF will no longer let me disclose Wink

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I suspect it’s that the sellers are fudging the contents to evade tarriffs and finally getting caught. I say that as I recently had stuff returned and Banggood notified me saying that if I wanted to pay the tarriff they would reship it and it would go through. However, I’m in the USA and you are in Europe, so perhaps we have differing issues.

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kat wrote:
I don’t think it’s that. They don’t update the tracking at all.

I have a few with no more updates from the 30th.

And now 2 more orders are being sent back, so 9 total. wtf….

Yeah, I ordered my shorty tubes on 11-26, they were on the move a coupla days after, but then it was “Processed through facility, Guangzhou EMS” on 12-02, and it’s been languishing untouched since then (15 days as of now, ie, over 2wks).

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Lightbringer, I’m in the same boat with my shorty tubes. I was wondering if I should create a post because of the bizarre shipping sequence. Exported, Delivery, Security Return… and repeat.

  • Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou International, the next stop , Guangzhou Exchange Station (via transfer) 2019-12-17 16:50
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou International has been exported directly sealed 2019-12-17 16:32
  • Guangzhou City, “Guangzhou International” return, note: security return 2019-12-17 09:33
  • Guangzhou, delivered to air transport 2019-12-16 14:22
  • Guangzhou City, “Guangzhou International” return, note: security return 2019-12-15 14:39
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou Exchange Station returned 2019-12-15 10:41
  • Guangzhou, delivered to air transport 2019-12-15 04:15
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou International has been exported directly sealed 2019-12-15 04:12
  • Guangzhou City, “Guangzhou International” return, note: security return 2019-12-12 10:01
  • Guangzhou, delivered to air transport 2019-12-11 14:30
  • Guangzhou, Guangzhou International has been exported directly sealed 2019-12-11 02:10
  • Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer) 2019-12-11 01:01
  • Foshan City, leaving the South China Sea Mail Processing Center, the next stop , Guangzhou International 2019-12-10 22:59
  • Foshan City, leaving the “Foshan City, South China Sea Dale International Business Department”, the next stop , “South China Sea Mail Processing Center” 2019-12-10 22:02
  • Foshan City, Foshan City, South China Sea Dale International Business Department has received, agent: Zhu Huanyu, Tel: 1301111111111
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Odd, threw it at 17track, and mine’s just

2019-12-02 03:08

CHINA, GUANGZHOU EMS, Processed Through Facility -> Your item has been processed through a facility in GUANGZHOU EMS, CHINA at 3:08 am on December 2, 2019.

2019-11-29 22:25

Origin Post is Preparing Shipment

2019-11-29 22:25

CHINA, GUANGZHOU, Processed Through Facility

2019-11-29 21:51

CHINA, Acceptance

showing just as much as the usps site.

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What about this?

2019-12-16 10:43, MONTEVIDEO CHANGE AIRPORT, URUGUAY, ARRIVAL FROM CONTAINER TO URUGUAY
2019-12-15 13:33, Beijing, Airlines
2019-11-27 15:40, Beijing, Airlines
2019-11-26 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-26 08:06, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-26 08:06, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-26 07:17, Beijing, leaving the Beijing Exchange Station, the next stop ,Beijing Exchange Station (via transfer)
2019-11-24 21:27, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-24 21:27, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-24 21:27, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-23 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-23 08:56, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-23 08:55, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-22 12:07, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-22 12:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-22 12:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-22 07:15, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-21 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-21 08:37, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-20 17:23, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-20 17:23, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-20 17:23, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-20 04:42, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-19 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-19 08:25, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-18 15:26, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-18 15:26, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-18 15:26, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-18 09:48, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-17 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-17 08:17, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-17 08:17, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-16 14:15, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-16 14:15, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-16 14:15, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-16 13:13, Beijing, arriving at Beijing Post International (via transfer)
2019-11-16 01:02, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-15 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-15 08:16, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou Terminal (via transfer)
2019-11-15 07:32, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-15 07:32, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-14 09:00, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-14 09:00, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-14 09:00, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-13 08:29, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-12 12:42, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-12 12:42, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-12 12:42, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-11-11 02:04, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-10 06:44, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-10 06:44, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-09 01:55, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-09 01:55, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-08 14:28, Beijing, arriving at the International Mail Transfer Department (via transfer)
2019-11-07 17:04, Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou Terminal, the next stop , Beijing Terminal (via transfer)
2019-11-06 11:23, Guangzhou City, “Guangzhou International” return, note: security return
2019-11-06 03:43, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-11-03 03:57, Foshan City, leaving the International Small Pack Processing Center, the next stop , Guangzhou International
2019-11-03 00:25, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-11-03 00:25, Foshan City, “International Small Bag Processing Center” has received, agent: agency administrator
2019-11-01 11:32, Logistics order created

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the order from a particular brand that hasnt come for reasons BLF will no longer let me disclose

Reaching for the popcorn …

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I am trying to be hopeful for Christmas. Here is the USPS info. Years ago I had something like this and it was at my door before it ever updated. Hoping the same this time.

December 12, 2019, 3:42 pm
Processed Through Facility
GUANGZHOU, CHINA
Your item has been processed through a facility in GUANGZHOU, CHINA at 3:42 pm on December 12, 2019.

Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
December 12, 2019, 9:15 am
Processed Through Facility
GUANGZHOU, CHINA
December 10, 2019, 9:36 am
Acceptance
CHINA

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And this?

2019-12-09 06:30, Hangzhou, leaving the Hangzhou Center, the next stop , Hangzhou International Mail
2019-12-08 18:43, Hangzhou, arrival in Hangzhou Center
2019-12-08 14:45, Shanghai, leaving the Shanghai Central Bureau Mail Processing Center, the next stop , Hangzhou Center (via transfer)
2019-12-08 02:57, Shanghai, arriving at the Shanghai Station Mail Processing Sub-Center (via transfer)
2019-12-07 07:50, Beijing, leaving Huangcun Station, the next stop , Shanghai Station Mail Processing Sub-Center (via transfer)
2019-12-03 13:29, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-12-01 15:37, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-30 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-30 06:35, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-30 06:35, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-29 10:07, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-29 10:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-29 00:50, Beijing, arriving at the International Mail Transfer Department (via transfer)
2019-11-27 22:12, Hangzhou, arrival in Hangzhou Center
2019-11-27 20:41, Hangzhou, leaving Hangzhou International Mail, next stop , Hangzhou Center
2019-11-26 23:25, Hangzhou, leaving the Hangzhou International Small Package Collection Center, the next stop , Hangzhou International
2019-11-26 20:41, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-11-26 20:41, Hangzhou City, “Hangzhou International Small Package Collection Center” has received, pitcher: Sun Luzhu
2019-11-24 16:43, Logistics order created

——-

On Friday I received a new tracking of the same order…

2019-12-18 04:48, Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou International, the next stop , Guangzhou Terminal (via transfer)
2019-12-17 21:59, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-12-17 19:24, Dongguan City, leaving Dongguan International, the next stop , Guangzhou International
2019-12-16 17:38, Dongguan City, leaving the “package express bulk business department back-office support class”, the next stop “Dongguan International”
2019-12-16 17:32, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-12-16 17:32, Dongguan City, “Parcel Express bulk business department back-office support class” has received, agent: dg3
2019-12-13 19:51, Logistics order created

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Isn’t tracking great?

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Bearbreeder wrote:
All my china post items have gotten through so far

11.11 and black friday orders

Its only the order from a particular brand that hasnt come for reasons BLF will no longer let me disclose Wink

Reasons that BLF allowed you to post and re-post ad nauseam until your fellow members couldn’t stand it anymore. Don’t even think about trying to turn this into a case of unfair treatment or protection of vendors. Your post history and interaction with other users makes the entire matter abundantly clear for all to see and analyze as they see fit. For the last time, drop the subject, including the thinly veiled references to your vendetta against BLF and the vendors that post here.

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sb56637 wrote:
Bearbreeder wrote:
All my china post items have gotten through so far

11.11 and black friday orders

Its only the order from a particular brand that hasnt come for reasons BLF will no longer let me disclose Wink

Reasons that BLF allowed you to post and re-post ad nauseam until your fellow members couldn’t stand it anymore. Don’t even think about trying to turn this into a case of unfair treatment or protection of vendors. Your post history and interaction with other users makes the entire matter abundantly clear for all to see and analyze as they see fit. For the last time, drop the subject, including the thinly veiled references to your vendetta against BLF and the vendors that post here.

If you are going to ban someone for posting personal experiences with a particular company with shady shipping practices then go do it

In fact i have received a few PMs of support on the “protection” of some of the brands and sellers on BLF, particularly those with business dealings wit BLF

This is what BLF has become, censoring of personal experiences of shady business practices to protect some brands

So go ahead and ban me, its not hard to have another account or two

Oh and i didnt even mention SOFIRN ( till now)

Heres a little parting gift … the sofirn reviews are paid for from members here Wink

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I’ll leave Bearbreeder’s posts intact for the sake of transparency.

Bearbreeder wrote:
In fact i have received a few PMs of support on the “protection” of some of the brands and sellers on BLF, particularly those with business dealings wit BLF

So, allegedly I (BLF) make secret deals to protect certain vendors and then somebody sends Bearbreeder a PM to inform him about these underhanded tricks. Just mull over that logic a little bit.

Bearbreeder wrote:
This is what BLF has become, censoring of personal experiences of shady business practices to protect some brands

Not to protect the brands, but to protect the peace and the user experience here on BLF.

I invite anyone who is still concerned about these allegations to search BLF or browse through the long threads here discussing major issues and complaints with the very vendors that Bearbreeder was harping on. The very fact that you are able to do so on BLF is very revealing about the truth of the matter.

This will be my last comment on this matter. Please continue discussing the subject of this thread. Thanks!

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What’s funny(?) is that I’m turning into Tony DiNozzo.

Mentioned to my gf the movie “Runaway”, and cited the year as 1984, and just then… “Good God, I am Tony DiNozzo.”. LOL

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Lightbringer, I will not see all the crazy 17track detail unless I scroll past the English text to the bottom, past the Mandarin text, and select the translate to English function. Not sure if you are already doing this and not sure if it will make you any happier with the detail, hard to watch.

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Hm? There’s a “en” you add to the url to get it to default to English. Like ‘17track.com/en/…’ or whatnot.

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Yes, you will get some of the primary text translated but still need to select the translate button to show all the text.

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I don’t know if it adds to the discussion or it’s just my bad day.

I’m having 2 orders from different sellers that has been “delivered” to the airline but is not appearing in my country’s airport nearly a month since.

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All this talk about tracking packages from China got me thinking about the bad old days. Any geezers here will relate to this. The old way of ordering things was quite different when I was a kid. Catalogs ruled the day. Cut out the order form. Fill in the catalog numbers long hand. Add up the total. Go to the tax and shipping charge charts and total up again. Write a check. Drop in mail. Wait 4- 6 weeks. Go to the post office one day and there it is. Usually didn’t take 6 weeks but they were covering their butts. Shipped from a couple states away. Just a little perspective.

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rngwn wrote:
I don’t know if it adds to the discussion or it’s just my bad day.

I’m having 2 orders from different sellers that has been “delivered” to the airline but is not appearing in my country’s airport nearly a month since.

Facepalm

Did you order during 11.11?
1 of my order during 11.11 with China Post is missing after “Departed country of origin”.
While my 2 other orders on Black Friday, 1 received last week while another has reached my country post pending delivery.

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I don’t think this is anything new for this month. I ordered 4 things from BG a few months ago, and 2 of them were sent back according to tracking. Eventually, I guess BG resent them again. They arrived a week or two later than the other packages. Maybe it’s China enforcing labeling rules or something. None of my packages contained batteries.

OTOH, EMS stuff seems to fly through, no problems. I think it’s something to do with free or cheap shipping options. They usually don’t label that stuff accurately.

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This is bureaucracy in a demonstration of its power…

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And this?

2019-12-09 06:30, Hangzhou, leaving the Hangzhou Center, the next stop , Hangzhou International Mail
2019-12-08 18:43, Hangzhou, arrival in Hangzhou Center
2019-12-08 14:45, Shanghai, leaving the Shanghai Central Bureau Mail Processing Center, the next stop , Hangzhou Center (via transfer)
2019-12-08 02:57, Shanghai, arriving at the Shanghai Station Mail Processing Sub-Center (via transfer)
2019-12-07 07:50, Beijing, leaving Huangcun Station, the next stop , Shanghai Station Mail Processing Sub-Center (via transfer)
2019-12-03 13:29, Beijing, Beijing Post International return, note: security return
2019-12-01 15:37, Beijing, Beijing Exchange Station Return
2019-11-30 15:20, CHINA, EXIT OF ORIGIN
2019-11-30 06:35, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-30 06:35, Beijing, delivered to air transport
2019-11-29 10:07, CHINA, PROCESSED IN OFFICE OF ORIGIN
2019-11-29 10:07, Beijing, Beijing Post International has been exported directly sealed
2019-11-29 00:50, Beijing, arriving at the International Mail Transfer Department (via transfer)
2019-11-27 22:12, Hangzhou, arrival in Hangzhou Center
2019-11-27 20:41, Hangzhou, leaving Hangzhou International Mail, next stop , Hangzhou Center
2019-11-26 23:25, Hangzhou, leaving the Hangzhou International Small Package Collection Center, the next stop , Hangzhou International
2019-11-26 20:41, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-11-26 20:41, Hangzhou City, “Hangzhou International Small Package Collection Center” has received, pitcher: Sun Luzhu
2019-11-24 16:43, Logistics order created

——-

On Friday I received a new tracking of the same order…

2019-12-18 04:48, Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou International, the next stop , Guangzhou Terminal (via transfer)
2019-12-17 21:59, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-12-17 19:24, Dongguan City, leaving Dongguan International, the next stop , Guangzhou International
2019-12-16 17:38, Dongguan City, leaving the “package express bulk business department back-office support class”, the next stop “Dongguan International”
2019-12-16 17:32, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-12-16 17:32, Dongguan City, “Parcel Express bulk business department back-office support class” has received, agent: dg3
2019-12-13 19:51, Logistics order created

Updating… The package returns again…

2019-12-22 01:42, Beijing, leaving Huangcun Station, next stop Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-12-20 20:35, Beijing, Import Customs Release
2019-12-19 20:23, Beijing, arriving at Beijing Terminal (via transfer)
2019-12-18 13:41, Guangzhou, leaving Guangzhou Terminal, the next stop , Beijing Terminal (via transfer)
2019-12-17 21:59, Guangzhou, arriving at Guangzhou International (via transfer)
2019-12-17 19:24, Dongguan City, leaving Dongguan International, the next stop , Guangzhou International
2019-12-16 17:38, Dongguan City, leaving the “package express bulk business department back-office support class”, the next stop “Dongguan International”
2019-12-16 17:32, CHINA, HOME COUNTRY ADMISSION
2019-12-16 17:32, Dongguan City, “Parcel Express bulk business department back-office support class” has received, agent: dg3
2019-12-13 19:51, Logistics order created

The package contains only a HT70.

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