There’s new evidence that the virus can spread before you show symptoms.
That’s because you’re carrying the virus before your body has fully launched its defense, releasing histamines and other immune responses that cause miserable symptoms of fever and congestion.
That’s a disturbing finding that is propelling U.S. efforts to contain the virus.
It means it is behaving like flu, which can be spread a day before illness.
On Saturday, the World Health Organization announced “possible transmission of 2019-nCoV from infected people before they developed symptoms.” There are now 11,953 confirmed cases in 24 nations; of these, 11,821 are in China. There have been 259 deaths.
In the first documented case, scientists reported in the New England Journal of Medicine that a Shanghai businesswoman had no symptoms while on a January trip in Germany. She became sick only on her flight home.
But a German man who had meetings with the woman became sick. And he transmitted the illness to two other Germans.
In a Jan. 24 paper published in the journal Lancet, focusing on one family who came down with pneumonia in Shenzhen, one child with the virus did not show any symptoms.
“Because asymptomatic infection appears possible, controlling the epidemic will also rely on isolating patients, tracing and quarantining contacts as early as possible, educating the public on both food and personal hygiene, and ensuring health care workers comply with infection control,” Dr. Kwok-Yung Yuen from the University of Hong Kong-Shenzhen Hospital, who led the research, said in a statement.
… Harvard’s Marc Lipsitch views with suspicion. Lipsitch thinks it is just a matter of time before the virus spreads widely internationally, which means nations so far only lightly hit should prepare for its eventual arrival in force and what may seem like the worst flu season in modern times. Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and head of the School’s Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, talked to the Gazette about recent developments in the outbreak and provided a look ahead.
You do not need to be a Harvard professor to expect that as a possible outcome, follow the news, see the numbers and the easiness of transmission of this particular strain and you can come to that conclusion by yourself.
Still there are up to now surprisingly few cases outside China, the world is doing an effective job delaying the spread, and even if that only means that a pandemic is postponed, winning time gets us a tiny bit closer to an effective vaccine that is expected in a year and a half (that hopefully will be worldwide available).
I’m just concerned about the cruise liners — which seem perfectly set up to spread the virus, not so much among well off passengers in their windowed staterooms with outside decks, but in the windowless shared below deck rooms used by staff and by low-cost cruise passengers. https://www.npr.org/2020/02/16/806470340/americans-evacuate-diamond-prin...
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44 Americans on the cruise ship have been infected, though not all are sick.
Fortunately a lot of bat caves are closed to exploring due to the spread of white nose fungus, perhaps lessening the chance some sick caver will pass the virus to local bat populations.
I wonder what other mammals (and birds?) can host it?
I’m just concerned about the cruise liners — which seem perfectly set up to spread the virus, not so much among well off passengers in their windowed staterooms with outside decks, but in the windowless shared below deck rooms used by staff and by low-cost cruise passengers.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/16/806470340/americans-evacuate-diamond-prin...
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44 Americans on the cruise ship have been infected, though not all are sick.
Fortunately a lot of bat caves are closed to exploring due to the spread of white nose fungus, perhaps lessening the chance some sick caver will pass the virus to local bat populations.
I wonder what other mammals (and birds?) can host it?
The Chinese government has ordered all the people under quarantine to kill their pets, so I guess they figure dogs, cats, rabbits, etc. are likely carriers of the disease.
Please, stay calm. The virus has not even completed it’s foreplay.
There’s more to come. Does killing pets look like a sign of a well-thought-out strategy?
If you’re not having a healthy lifestile, it’s about the right time to adopt one.
Like: sleep a lot, but not around. Drink a lot: of water. Walk your dog and clean your lungs.
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You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
I could give you some recipes, but the crucial part in those is mostly the killing of the animal.
The things that occur during the dog-eat-festival in Yulin make the community officer look like Florence Nightingale or mother Teresa.
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You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
even with the quarantine process on the ship, virus transmission still occurred.
The Japanese health ministry said Monday that the number of cases confirmed aboard the Diamond Princess had reached 454.
“As it turned out, that was very ineffective in preventing spread on the ship,” Fauci told the USATODAY Editorial Board and reporters Monday. Every hour, another four or five people were being infected….
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“The quarantine process failed,” Fauci said. “I’d like to sugarcoat it and try to be diplomatic about it, but it failed. People were getting infected on that ship. Something went awry in the process of the quarantining on that ship. I don’t know what it was, but a lot of people got infected on that ship.”
Passengers were instructed to stay in their suites or cabins during the quarantine. Those in interior cabins with no window or outdoor access were able to go on deck for up to an hour and a half but had to stay at least 3 feet from fellow passengers….
even with the quarantine process on the ship, virus transmission still occurred.
The Japanese health ministry said Monday that the number of cases confirmed aboard the Diamond Princess had reached 454.
“As it turned out, that was very ineffective in preventing spread on the ship,” Fauci told the USATODAY Editorial Board and reporters Monday. Every hour, another four or five people were being infected….
…
“The quarantine process failed,” Fauci said. “I’d like to sugarcoat it and try to be diplomatic about it, but it failed. People were getting infected on that ship. Something went awry in the process of the quarantining on that ship. I don’t know what it was, but a lot of people got infected on that ship.”
Passengers were instructed to stay in their suites or cabins during the quarantine. Those in interior cabins with no window or outdoor access were able to go on deck for up to an hour and a half but had to stay at least 3 feet from fellow passengers….
Concerns are mounting about how long the novel coronavirus may survive on surfaces — so much so that China’s central bank has taken measures to deep clean and destroy its cash, which changes hands multiple times a day, in an effort to contain the virus.
It is unknown exactly how long the novel coronavirus can linger on contaminated surfaces and objects with the potential of infecting people, but some researchers are finding clues by studying the elusive behaviors of other coronaviruses.
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These human coronaviruses, such as SARS and MERS, have been found to persist on inanimate surfaces — including metal, glass or plastic surfaces — for as long as nine days if that surface had not been disinfected, according to research published earlier this month in The Journal of Hospital Infection. https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext
Coronaviruses, such as SARS and MERS, have been found to persist on inanimate surfaces — including metal, glass or plastic surfaces — for as long as nine days if that surface had not been disinfected, according to research published earlier this month in The Journal of Hospital Infection.
Over the weekend I heard from a source I have in the scientific community that a lab in the UK has identified a vaccine for the virus but it will take six months for trials to be completed.
Over the weekend I heard from a source I have in the scientific community that a lab in the UK has identified a vaccine for the virus but it will take six months for trials to be completed.
Six months is extremely fast. And if it passes the trials, production takes another few months unless they take the gamble producing it parallel to the trials in anticipation of succes.
Italy is starting to get deaths now… several dead im reading people buy alot of food and putting on masks because of fear..
Really bad now. 155 cases in Italy. And the deaths are rising just as expected.
Italy 3 dead, 155 infected
South Korea 6 dead, 602 infected
Japan 1 dead, 146 infected
Iran 8 dead, 43 infected
There is no evidence that the infection would subside, or that it would become less severe over time.
Italy starts to shut down cities, scools etc stores are sold out of desinfectant and gloves, masks etc also other supply as people start to prepare for some hard days
even the famous Carnival of venice is cancelled!
in Austria there is advice not to go to italy atm....
just hours ago the austrian railways stopped a train in italy before entering Austria because 2 sick people are on it!!
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A little freaky…
A virus called Wuhan-400 makes people terribly ill … in a Dean Koontz thriller from 1981
Of course I am a bit cautious, but I also would like to see how things are developping.
So yesterdag I ordered a (budget) light from Banggood.
And this morning (Feb.13th) I found an email in my inbox that it was shipped.
(arrived Mar.23th)
But the parts that BG shipped on Jan.13th are still out somewhere.
(arrived Feb.20th)
The parts I ordered from Kaidomain on Jan.23rd are still being processed.
(shipped Feb.27th, arrived Mar.13th)
And by looking at his status, I guess the Gearbest rep has not yet returned to work.
(MIA from 20191225 till 20200312)
I will keep you updated on any changes.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
Seems like logistics will soon normalise.
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2020/02/01/can-i-get-coronavirus-from-someo...
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/02/harvard-expert-says-coron...
You do not need to be a Harvard professor to expect that as a possible outcome, follow the news, see the numbers and the easiness of transmission of this particular strain and you can come to that conclusion by yourself.
Still there are up to now surprisingly few cases outside China, the world is doing an effective job delaying the spread, and even if that only means that a pandemic is postponed, winning time gets us a tiny bit closer to an effective vaccine that is expected in a year and a half (that hopefully will be worldwide available).
link to djozz tests
Taiwan claims DHL packages unshipped to China due to corona
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3876721
I’m just concerned about the cruise liners — which seem perfectly set up to spread the virus, not so much among well off passengers in their windowed staterooms with outside decks, but in the windowless shared below deck rooms used by staff and by low-cost cruise passengers.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/16/806470340/americans-evacuate-diamond-prin...
Fortunately a lot of bat caves are closed to exploring due to the spread of white nose fungus, perhaps lessening the chance some sick caver will pass the virus to local bat populations.
I wonder what other mammals (and birds?) can host it?
The Chinese government has ordered all the people under quarantine to kill their pets, so I guess they figure dogs, cats, rabbits, etc. are likely carriers of the disease.
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-deutsche-post-stops-sending-packages-t...
i hate the virus by now!!
Please, stay calm. The virus has not even completed it’s foreplay.
There’s more to come. Does killing pets look like a sign of a well-thought-out strategy?
If you’re not having a healthy lifestile, it’s about the right time to adopt one.
Like: sleep a lot, but not around. Drink a lot: of water. Walk your dog and clean your lungs.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
No mention of this on the DHL service information page:
https://www.dhl.com/en/important_information.html
and only a mention of delays on the cn page:
http://www.cn.dhl.com/en/important_information/012820.html
Source for that? First mention I’ve seen of it.
I’d‘a’thunk they would have included recipes …..
Lol
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Run in circles,
Scream and shout.
Have fun!
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Community officer. acts on grounds of medical prevention.
I could give you some recipes, but the crucial part in those is mostly the killing of the animal.
The things that occur during the dog-eat-festival in Yulin make the community officer look like Florence Nightingale or mother Teresa.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
That “community officer” deserves to see his family clubbed to death the same way.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/02/17/coronavirus-off...
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Whoah! Literal money laundering going on in China now. Emphasis added:
Hey, I’ll pay extra for 30-day shipping ….
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Coronaviruses, such as SARS and MERS, have been found to persist on inanimate surfaces — including metal, glass or plastic surfaces — for as long as nine days if that surface had not been disinfected, according to research published earlier this month in The Journal of Hospital Infection.
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Over the weekend I heard from a source I have in the scientific community that a lab in the UK has identified a vaccine for the virus but it will take six months for trials to be completed.
It's moments of madness that keep us sane.
Six months is extremely fast. And if it passes the trials, production takes another few months unless they take the gamble producing it parallel to the trials in anticipation of succes.
link to djozz tests
416 cases in SHENZHEN OMG
www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/statistics_of_the_cases_novel_coronavirus_infec...
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
the new infections start to level
and the curve of healed people raises (as the infections did 3 weeks ago)
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Italy is starting to get deaths now… several dead
im reading people buy alot of food and putting on masks because of fear..
Really bad now. 155 cases in Italy. And the deaths are rising just as expected.
Italy 3 dead, 155 infected
South Korea 6 dead, 602 infected
Japan 1 dead, 146 infected
Iran 8 dead, 43 infected
There is no evidence that the infection would subside, or that it would become less severe over time.
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Italy starts to shut down cities, scools etc
stores are sold out of desinfectant and gloves, masks etc
also other supply as people start to prepare for some hard days
even the famous Carnival of venice is cancelled!
in Austria there is advice not to go to italy atm....
just hours ago the austrian railways stopped a train in italy before entering Austria because 2 sick people are on it!!
all new deals are also posted here: deals.m4dm4x.com
if you do not find what you are looking for :
ask MARTIN@M4DM4X.COM - i will save you money!
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