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Facebooks ability to track my activity

You can avoid Facebook’s massive tracking engine by never, never, never allowing “login using Facebook” on any site anywhere.
Yes, it’s tiresome to keep a password manager file up to date and use a unique login and password for every site you visit. So?

https://lifehacker.com/facebook-is-tracking-your-every-move-on-the-web-h...

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Over the weekend, Dave Winer wrote an article at Scripting.com explaining how Facebook keeps track of where you are on the web after logging in, without your consent. Nik Cubrilovic dug a little deeper, and discovered that Facebook can still track where you are, even if you log out. Facebook, for its part, has denied the claims. Regardless of who you believe, here’s how to protect yourself, and keep your browsing habits to yourself. …

…. any third-party web site or service that’s connected to Facebook or that uses a Like button is sending over your information, without your explicit permission. However, Winer noticed something mostly overlooked in last week’s Facebook changes: Facebook’s new Open Graph-enabled social web apps all send information to Facebook and can post to your profile or share with your friends whether you want them to or not.

Essentially, by using these apps, just reading an article, listening to a song, or watching a video, you’re sending information to Facebook which can then be automatically shared with your friends or added to your profile, and Facebook doesn’t ask for your permission to do it. Winer’s solution is to simply log out of Facebook when you’re not using it, and avoid clicking Like buttons and tying other services on the web…

Facebook gets that login tool build into other people’s sites so whenever you use it anywhere, Facebook can collect your information.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+login+tracking&t=newext&atb=v1-1&ia=web

And by the way if you use Facebook, log out of Facebook as soon as you’re done using it.

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I will try to explain what has happened, though I am not an expert.

You shared a picture from Facebook with pure intentions. But that odd looking link Faccebook gave you isn’t an accident. It was engineered. It was engineered to contain your identity, as well as where and when you were on their site when you grabbed it.
But it doesn’t stop there. When you posted it into the forum on BLF, it became an embedded tracker. Now raccoon city, Henk4U2, and everyone else that clicked this page were reported to facebook.com as being seen here, and the times they were here. And facebook knows their REAL names, not their BLF names. How is that possible? Because cookies are not deleted, even when you log out of facebook. When their browser sent the request to load that Facebook image, it sent stored cookies that identify which facebook identity they are. Their was nothing racoon city and Henk4U2 could have done to stop this secret intrusion of their privacy, except for logging out of facebook, clearing their browser cookies manually, and never logging back into facebook.
Or in my case, I have an extension called Facebook Container that prevents my facebook cookies from being sent. In retaliation, Facebook denies my browser’s request to see the image because I didn’t identify myself with a facebook id. It’s Facebook’s way of trying to make me un-install my privacy plugin.

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Henk4U2 wrote:
@hank, I’m running Firefox ESR 52.9.0 (32 bits) and lately I’m having problems with some Imgur links. But your last two pictures are perfectly visible for me.

Corporate IT department won’t let you upgrade?

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Bad news guys, I found the issue, and it’s not a compatibility problem. It’s a tracking-your-a$s problem. I have a plugin that cripples Facebooks ability to track my activity on BLF. If you can see hank’s images, facebook is watching you.

I found those Hank’s affiliated links kind of odd too. Now we know why, he was “contact tracking” you. Big Smile

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Mitchell Tsai
Virus researcher at Harvard Medical School in 1980s

Covid is so much more infectious than flu…that Covid hygiene makes it very hard for influenza to spread.

https://www.quora.com/q/coronavirus?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=143026...

Wow this guy was a researcher in 1980s?? That actually means something to me. That means he knows his stuff, he doesn’t just Google Sh..t like most people today. That’s before any of these phony“fact checkers” were even born.

Interesting, that makes sense that covid is more infectious than flu. I think the first covid tests where just testing if you have Flu or a Cold. If they found flu that means you are fine, because you can’t have Covid.

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I think the first covid tests where just testing if you have Flu or a Cold. If they found flu that means you are fine, because you can’t have Covid.

Actually there has been at least a claiming someone had influeza virus and sars-cov2 virus at the same time.
Their reasoning is rather odd, because more than one virus can be easily present in someone.

What I find interesting is that around here because of the use of masks, people are not really having a cold like last year when everyone was coughing by this time, well obviously not everyone is wearing a mask and some chose not to go out in public maybe, but especially on construction sites no is wearing a mask and other less obvious places I have seen large collectives not wearing a mask. Not that tons of improper mask wearing and improper sanitation habits wouldn’t be a common thing anyway.

I mean a mask seems to even have esoteric-like proprieties for some, something like a superstition almost, for example elders around here constantly wearing the mask on their chin only, they feel great because they have a mask so they are protected, yet that mask is not doing anything for them, neither for the others around them.

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https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/astrazenecas-best-covid-vaccine-...

Oops. They mistakenly gave some people half-strength vaccine, and got better results from that group.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/business/coronavirus-vaccine-astrazen...

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Officials in the United States have noted that the results were not clear. It was the head of the flagship federal vaccine initiative — not the company — who first disclosed that the vaccine’s most promising results did not reflect data from older people.

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^ That whole debacle sounds like a hot mess of mistakes. Yikes.

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caramba wrote:
Interesting, that makes sense that covid is more infectious than flu. I think the first covid tests where just testing if you have Flu or a Cold. If they found flu that means you are fine, because you can’t have Covid.

That’s because Covid was supposed to be rare at the beginning and early symptoms/mild cases can be confused with colds and the flu. If 1 in 10 had the Flu and 1 in 1000 have Covid, if the odds are independent then still only 1 in 1000 Flu cases also have Covid and the other 999 only Flu, you may have very bad luck but wasting limited tests on a 1/1000 chance was overkill. The odds are not really independent because they are transmitted the same way but for low rates it doesn’t matter much, when the rate of Covid increases it becomes a different matter.

OTOH infections may indeed interfere with each other, the most basic way is that once an infection is detected the inmune system will become more active but there are more sophisticated mechanism that I don’t really understand.

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https://www.axios.com/confusion-remains-over-astrazeneca-vaccine-f0a2e7c...

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Experts are still trying to make sense of AstraZeneca and Oxford University’s coronavirus vaccine.

The big question: Oxford and AstraZeneca said their vaccine was 90% effective in people who got a half dose followed by a full dose, and 62% effective in people who got two full doses. Why would a lower dose be more effective?

The intrigue: The 90% figure has gotten a lot more attention because it’s a lot more impressive, but it may be a somewhat distorted picture.

In clinical trials for the vaccine, the half-dose version — the one with 90% efficacy — was tested on a group that didn’t include anyone older than 55, Bloomberg reports from a briefing by Operation Warp Speed officials.

The half-dose version was a mistake, owing to some under-filled vials.

The other side: Some researchers believe the difference is real, and not a data issue.

Smaller doses may be more effective in stimulating certain parts of the body’s immune response, or that a larger dose may blunt the body’s response to some parts of the virus, according to an article in Nature.

Our thought bubble: All we’ve seen so far, for all three vaccines, are press releases. Experts still need to see scientific, peer-reviewed findings.

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Mitchell Tsai
Virus researcher at Harvard Medical School in 1980s

Improved hygiene has dropped US flus to 1-2% of last-year’s levels (48 lab-reported cases last week, versus ~3,000 last year).

Covid is so much more infectious than flu…that Covid hygiene makes it very hard for influenza to spread.

https://www.quora.com/q/coronavirus?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=143026...

Unfortunately, that is just going to add fuel to the conspiracy believers.

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FYI

Johns Hopkins reports a study on COVID19 deaths in their News Letter. Johns Hopkins COVID19 deaths report

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“The study found that “This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years.” In fact, “the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19.”

Then the study is removed with the comment:

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“Though making clear the need for further research, the article was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic. We regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.”

JHU News-Letter (@JHUNewsLetter)

JH Study

and

JH_Study

Merry Christmas

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The reason that report was pulled from the student newspaper website at Johns Hopkins (yes, it was posted by the student newspaper, not by the medical center) is that the conclusions provided by the economist who wrote the report are based on very limited data and speculations that are dubious at best. For example, the report suggests that the data show that the percentages of various age groups who have died during the pandemic have remained relatively stable compared to previous years – and then goes on to assert that data prove that the virus hasn’t killed many people. However, that conclusion doesn’t necessarily follow from the data cited. The normal death rates among various age groups might have remained relatively constant during the pandemic, contrary to initial expectations that older people would disproportionately die in greater numbers than young people, because a lot of young and middle-aged people have died from the virus, as well as older people. Whatever the explanation for the data, and again, the very limited data cited in the report at issue, it does not prove that few people have actually died of Covid-19.

Moreover, the other major dubious assertion made in the report, and I suspect another major reason for the report being removed from the website, is the assertion in the report that Covid-19 must have killed far fewer people than previously thought, because reported death numbers from other causes have decreased compared to previous years. The report suggests this is evidence that deaths attributed to Covid-19 were, in fact, due to other causes. Again, that conclusion is based on an assumption that the numbers of reported and actual deaths due to non-virus causes are the same – an assumption with no evidence to support it. In addition, the report also assumes that the fact that deaths from non-virus causes went down in 2020 compared to previous years proves that many deaths attributed to Covid-19 were in fact caused by other conditions. The report provides no evidence to support that assumption, either. Another obvious possible reason for non-virus deaths declining would be that the virus killed a lot of people with co-morbid conditions, therefore ending many peoples’ lives before the other conditions could kill them. But the report doesn’t entertain that possibility at all, for some unknown reason.

Then, there are the independent analyses of the excess deaths in the USA during 2020, which have uniformly come up with a figure roughly approximating the number of Covid-19 deaths cited by the major sources of data, like the CDC, and have also concluded that the official figures almost certainly undercount the true number of deaths caused by Covid-19. You can’t just assume those analyses away, especially since they’re based on a larger data set.

Happy holidays to all.

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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/11/26/9393650...

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Government Model Suggests U.S. COVID-19 Cases Could Be Approaching 100 Million

November 26, 20204:17 PM ET

The model, created by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, calculated that the true number of infections is about eight times the reported number, which includes only the cases confirmed by a laboratory test.

Preliminary estimates using the model found that by the end of September, 52.9 million people had been infected, while the number of laboratory-confirmed infections was just 6.9 million, the team reported in the Nov. 25 issue of the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.

“This indicates that approximately 84% of the U.S. population has not yet been infected and thus most of the country remains at risk,” the authors wrote.

As someone observed years ago, if you laid all of the economists out in a row head to toe, they still wouldn’t reach a conclusion.

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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/11/25/9387449...

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Current Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations call for two weeks of isolation from the last contact with a person known to have COVID-19. However, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said Tuesday that health officials were rethinking that recommendation, citing “a preponderance of evidence that a shorter quarantine complemented by a test might be able to shorten that quarantine period.”

“We are actively working on that type of guidance right now, reviewing the evidence, but we want to make absolutely sure,” he said, adding that “these kind of recommendations aren’t willy-nilly.”

The exact language of the new guidelines and when they might be announced remains unclear, but according to a federal official who asked not to be named because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly about the issue, the recommended quarantine time is likely to be just seven to 10 days for people who then test negative for the virus.

Apparently someone infected can buid up enough virus toreliably be detected in just 7 to 10 days, rather than needing to wait the full 14 days before the test will detect the virus.

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Hat tip to Soylent News:

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Covid Transmission Strongly Influenced by Relative Humidity | | from the here-we-go-again dept. | | posted by Fnord666 on Saturday November 28, @09:08 (Science) | | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/11/27/1650225 |
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[0]oumuamua writes:

[1]Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 spreads more indoors at low humidity.
The airborne transmission of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 via aerosol particles in indoor environment seems to be strongly influenced by relative humidity. This is the conclusion drawn by researchers from the Leibniz Institute for Tropospheric Research (TROPOS) in Leipzig and the CSIR National Physical Laboratory in New Delhi from the analysis of 10 most relevant international studies on the subject. Therefore, they recommend controlling the indoor air in addition to the usual measures such as social distancing and masks. A relative humidity of 40 to 60 percent could reduce the spread of the viruses and their absorption through the nasal mucous membrane. To contain the COVID-19 pandemic, it is therefore extremely important to implement standards for indoor air humidity in rooms with many people, such as hospitals, open-plan offices or public transport, writes the research team in the scientific journal Aerosol and Air Quality Research

And other findings dispute that: [2]Temperature and Humidity Do Not Play a Major Role in Coronavirus Spread:

Research headed by The University of Texas at Austin is providing a little clarity on the role of weather in COVID-19 infection. The new study found that humidity and temperature do not play a major role in the spread of coronavirus.

A doctor’s opinion: [3]This winter, fight covid-19 with humidity:

Discuss this story at:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=20/11/27/1650225

Links:
0. https://soylentnews.org/~oumuamua/
1. https://www.tropos.de/en/current-issues/press-releases/details/coronavir...
2. https://www.azocleantech.com/news.aspx?newsID=28291
3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/18/winter-covid-19-humid...

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“Post-acute COVID-19 Syndrome”: COVID “long-haulers” suffering symptoms months after initial diag…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLmMPOHDwM&t=629s&ab_channel=60Minutes

No, it doesn’t affect only the elder and the “non-healthy”…

Stay safe folks! Really!

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From 60 Minutes video:
> “Have any of your patients made a full recovery?”
>> “Not full…”

As many of us have been saying, a 99.5% chance of survival is NOT a 99.5% chance of it just being a flu that you get over.

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… At the peak of the spring wave in April, about 31,000 new cases were announced each day, though that was a vast undercount because testing capacity was extremely limited. Still, the toll of the virus was an abstraction for many Americans because deaths were concentrated in a handful of states like New York, New Jersey and Louisiana.

Now the deaths are scattered widely across the entire nation, and there is hardly a community that has not been affected. On Wednesday, when 2,300 deaths were reported nationwide — the highest toll since May — only three counties reported a toll of more than 20. …

“We are at risk of repeating what happened in April,” Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota and a member of President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s coronavirus task force, said of the death toll.

“Once you go over the case cliff, where you have so many cases that you overwhelm the system, basically at that point when you fall off that case cliff, you’re going to see mortality rates go up substantially,” he said. “I shudder to imagine what things might be like in two weeks.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/28/us/covid-deaths-united-states.html

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Regarding excess deaths I have heard the argument from many that somehow this isn’t real. Do not understand how that could be a reasonable assumption given the appearance of temporary morgues and mass graves all over the world. Probably spent too much time looking into this but FWIW, here is an overview of a variety of studies on the topic.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2771758

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/debunking-the-false-claim-tha...

https://jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?doi=10.1001/jama.2020.20717

https://scitechdaily.com/coronavirus-deaths-are-not-fake-total-deaths-re...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.31.20184036v3

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Denial is a coping mechanism. Feeding it is big business.

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Denial is a coping mechanism. Feeding it is big business.

Well said

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Nevermind, what I originally posted here turns out to be arguable but not appropriate to think about here.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/29/coronavirus-surge-thank...

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America’s top infectious-disease expert sounded the alarm Sunday, warning of a “surge superimposed upon” a surge of coronavirus cases over the coming weeks due to Thanksgiving travel and celebrations.

Anthony S. Fauci and other experts urged Americans to take aggressive action as the December holidays loom to mitigate the surge overwhelming hospitals across the country. As the number of coronavirus-related deaths per day rose to its highest point since April, Fauci and others highlighted the importance of complying with mask mandates and physical distancing.

“It’s going to get worse over the next several weeks, but the actions that we take in the next several days will determine how bad it is or whether or not we continue to flatten our curve,” U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams said on Fox News on Sunday.

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A list of ways the coronavirus is worse than influenza:
https://www.quora.com/q/coronavirus?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=144890...

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hank wrote:
A list of ways the coronavirus is worse than influenza: https://www.quora.com/q/coronavirus?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=144890...

Quora? Really?

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Feeling much stronger…. went from barely walking 11 days ago to +/- 1500’ a day with a walker……. Up from 130lbs to 143. Time is moving in slow motion….. but that may be the medicine Facepalm Beer Beer

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Yes, Quora, really, because I can and do check a writer’s qualifications before recommending something s/he has written.
You can look this stuff up.

https://www.quora.com/profile/Ed-Taboada

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In other news, a comparison of various governments’ responses:

https://www.bsg.ox.ac.uk/research/research-projects/coronavirus-governme...

Using data from that site: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/18/us/covid-state-restrictio...

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Coscar wrote:
Feeling much stronger…. went from barely walking 11 days ago to +/- 1500’ a day with a walker……. Up from 130lbs to 143. Time is moving in slow motion….. but that may be the medicine Facepalm Beer Beer

Hey that sounds like some good progress, especially on the weight—keep up the good work.

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drivin' around on fossil fuel,
until i saw what i was doin',
was drivin' down the road to ruin. --JT

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Coscar, glad to hear you keep getting better. Not that it’s any of my business but you got me curious what your “fighting weight” was before the virus hit you.

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Superb news, Coscar. Great progress. Thumbs Up

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