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Thanks for making the call. Big Smile

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Here’s an illustrated guide from the CDC to fakery, counterfeits and lies from mask manufacturers:

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/usernotices/counterfeitResp.html

Hat tip to: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/what-do-coronavirus-variants-...

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Apparently, some good news! Although preliminary!
The new:
https://www.genengnews.com/news/plitidepsin-shows-promise-against-sars-c...

The article:
Plitidepsin has potent preclinical efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 by targeting the host protein eEF1A
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/01/22/science.abf4058

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Meanwhile, here we had the worst day since this all started. More than 300 deaths and above 16.400 cases in one day…

Also, a thing that should be noted, although still under investigation/research.

In a nursing home, some “clients” and carers were vaccinated with the 1st dose.
Meanwhile, they got infected, although all are asymptomatic.
They are now waiting for the 2nd dose, although I’m not sure if they will take it on the scheduled time or if it will be delayed.
No further information on this, but if relevant I’ll update.

Stay safe folks Beer

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My mom got her first COVID-19 vaccine shot last night.

Getting the appointment was difficult, but getting the shot and the second appointment were super easy.

I went along with her to "supervise."

Also, my older sister in North Carolina that works at a hospital got her second shot a little while ago.

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Omg! This post still over one year.
Wish there will be no more conflict and death on the world.
Wear mask and save life.

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Rex how’s the family doing with this surgery?

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Rexlion wrote:
I saw an interesting meme today….. a bit of irony.

It’s also more than a little bit controversial. Please drop the subject and delete your post. Thanks in advance.

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Pardon me, I didn’t stop to think: that meme had the forbidden “V” word in it.

Or is it Covid that’s controversial? (Covid is the subject of this thread, though.)

My daughter is recuperating well from the surgery, except she (stubbornly) exerted herself too soon and as of yesterday she has a bulge…. maybe a hernia. So she has to go in and get that checked. She was under a lot of pressure from her ex (very recently finalized divorce) to get some of her stuff moved out of the house. We all told her to get help and to not lift anything, but that’s how it goes.

Back to the subject at hand… I recall from last March or April, when the number of Covid deaths was lower than today and when Covid looked nowhere near as serious as Spanish flu, folks said it was too early to use those death numbers because it surely would get worse. And the numbers have gotten worse, all right. It’s been just about one year since Covid came onto our ‘radar’ (so to speak) and, in that time, well over 2.2 million deaths worldwide have now been chalked up to this virus. Breaking out my calculator, about 0.029% of the world’s population has succumbed to it. If we were to guess that this virus will continue to devastate the world at the same rate for 2 more years, we’ll lose 0.088% of the world’s people to Covid.

Looking at the Spanish flu death toll, estimates range from 17 million to 50 million people. Taking the lower number of 17,000,000 for an optimistic comparison, and accounting for lower world population back then (1.6 billion), we see that Spanish flu killed at least 1% of the world’s people. If the upper number of 50M actually died from it, the death toll was 3.1%. So, the real number probably lies somewhere between 1% and 3.1%.

If I assume the lower number for Spanish flu deaths, and if I assume that Covid will rampage unabated for 2 more years, then it is plain to me that Covid might actually wind up being almost one-tenth as bad as the worst influenza outbreak in recorded history.

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MascaratumB wrote:
In a nursing home, some “clients” and carers were vaccinated with the 1st dose. Meanwhile, they got infected, although all are asymptomatic.

similar report from USA congress, vaccinated members, even with both doses, still catch and test positive for corona. Even if they remain asymptomatic, they continue to be contagious to others.

this article is about one who only had the first dose of the vaccine, when he got infected

this article is about one who had both doses of the vaccine, and still got infected

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and here is an article claiming HIV patients are being protected by their medication

“researchers found that people with HIV who were taking tenofovir disoproxil fumarate (TDF) and emtricitabine (FTC) were far less likely to be hospitalized or placed in the ICU when compared to other HIV-positive people taking different ART medications.”

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Any RA sufferers here. I was wondering what your doctors have been telling you about RA medicines and covid? I know they change your immune system which probably could make you more vulnerable to covid? Or maybe they prevent your immune system from going crazy fighting off covid?

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Rexlion wrote:
Looking at the Spanish flu death toll, estimates range from 17 million to 50 million people. Taking the lower number of 17,000,000 for an optimistic comparison, and accounting for lower world population back then (1.6 billion), we see that Spanish flu killed at least 1% of the world's people. If the upper number of 50M actually died from it, the death toll was 3.1%. So, the real number probably lies somewhere between 1% and 3.1%. If I assume the lower number for Spanish flu deaths, and if I assume that Covid will rampage unabated for 2 more years, then it is plain to me that Covid might actually wind up being almost one-tenth as bad as the worst influenza outbreak in recorded history.

 

Rexlion - interesting numbers. Have you compared the two outbreaks and death tolls in regards to people's ages? The Spanish flu killed mostly young people. Wikipedia has it at 99% of the deaths in the US the first year were people under 65 and half in the 20-40 year old range. That's nothing like what we are currently experiencing.

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The only reason to compare COVID-19 to the Spanish flu is to attempt to downplay COVID-19, something Rexlion loves to do.

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Rexlion wrote:
Looking at the Spanish flu death toll, estimates range from 17 million to 50 million people. Taking the lower number of 17,000,000 for an optimistic comparison, and accounting for lower world population back then (1.6 billion), we see that Spanish flu killed at least 1% of the world’s people. If the upper number of 50M actually died from it, the death toll was 3.1%. So, the real number probably lies somewhere between 1% and 3.1%. If I assume the lower number for Spanish flu deaths, and if I assume that Covid will rampage unabated for 2 more years, then it is plain to me that Covid might actually wind up being almost one-tenth as bad as the worst influenza outbreak in recorded history.

 


Rexlion – interesting numbers. Have you compared the two outbreaks and death tolls in regards to people’s ages? The Spanish flu killed mostly young people. Wikipedia has it at 99% of the deaths in the US the first year were people under 65 and half in the 20-40 year old range. That’s nothing like what we are currently experiencing.


That’s an interesting observation. I wasn’t aware that Spanish flu was so much more deadly among the younger people than Covid-19 is. Thanks!

It’s a valid comparison. Actually, the reason I made the comparison was because, when some of us said last March and April that Covid was nowhere near as serious as the 1917-‘18 flu outbreak, others shouted it down by saying it was way too early to make the comparison. Well, it’s no longer too early to compare, and our early assessment has proven to be correct. But in the meantime, everyone’s been scared out of their wits. People are utterly traumatized with fear of catching this ‘deadly pestilence’ (the one that gives the vast majority of patients mild flu-like symptoms).

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My younger sister, which I usually call just "my sister" because we're about the same age, will be getting her first COVID-19 vaccine shot tomorrow.

She's considered a health care worker because she basically babysits an autistic child.

She has some training as a nurse, which I think is required for the job.

So, soon enough, my mom and both of my sisters will be vaccinated.  :THUMBS-UP:

(I think it's going to be quite a while before the rest of my family gets vaccinated, though.)

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raccoon city wrote:

The only reason to compare COVID-19 to the Spanish flu…


Inappropriate post and likely agin the rules, might want to delete it before you get banished again.

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Agreed – that seems to be a prohibited topic.

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Interesting use of cute quotation marks—( ‘deadly pestilence’)
So you are mocking the severity of a virus that’s killed 450,000 Americans?

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bushmaster wrote:

Interesting use of cute quotation marks—( ‘deadly pestilence’)
So you are mocking the severity of a virus that’s killed 450,000 Americans?

downplay_covid-19

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Actually, “Deadly Pestilence” sounds like a kewl teevee-movie.

Or a “Barnaby Jones” ep.

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A first hand report here worth reading:

https://www.quora.com/q/coronavirus?__ni__=0&__nsrc__=4&__snid3__=170878...

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… t took 2 months, but I’ve improved significantly. The deep fatigue is gone, and my fever finally broke after week 6. ….

Is Covid-19 worse than seasonal flu? Yes, significantly worse. The mortality rates are frightening in and of themselves, but the severity and persistence of the fatigue, and the unpredictability of symptoms you might get (Covid toe, shaky hands, loss of smell, but also loss of hearing and sight, all kinds of bizarre psychological and neurological problems), and how long you might be sick, all add a harrowing layer of surreal unpredictability.

Think of it this way. Much like in gambling, you just don’t know what cards you’ll be dealt. Many of the cards are pretty much “get out of jail free”, basically a few sniffles and you’re done. But other cards, out of nowhere, are harsh beyond comprehension for something that we call a “cold”.

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I don’t see a point of this thread if only certain viewpoints are permitted to be discussed. I feel bad for SB, not an easy situation to deal with. I appreciate that there’s at least one place on this global forum to talk about a thing that’s disrupting everyone’s lives, but if only certain people get to share their grievances, experiences, concerns, fears, or even opinions, I begin to have issues with it. I feel like there is justification for banning the topic entirely under the premise of it being BudgetLightForum, and the long standing rules prohibiting controversial topics. If milk toast and regurgitation of mainstream news stories is all that’s allowed, I feel like we don’t need it here.

I know I should just continue to keep my mouth shut and not share my 2 cents. I’ve ignored this thread about 85% of the time, and when I’ve indulged, it never seems to be a beneficial exercise.

I share this with respect for everyone and their individual experience and perspective. I wish this wasn’t so difficult.

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I believe the idea behind the rule, if I’m not mistaken, is to prohibit certain topics, not to prohibit any viewpoints about each topic that is permitted.

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Thankless job it is too. Sb’s done a great job IMO keeping the peace and still allowing us to mostly express our opinions. When he asked some time ago if we should eliminate this thread, I had mixed thoughts. Now I’m glad we didn’t. I like this thread as a place to blow off a little steam about what can be a volatile subject. Better here than buttin heads with somebody out in the street, don’t you think? JMO

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Wellp, problem is that there are a lot of people (and make no mistake, on both sides), who simply Must Be Right, and will dog you ‘til you drop. And aha!, you made a spelling error, so obviously your whole point of view is thus wrong and can be dismissed in its entirety, etc.

And like a dog with a chew-rag, they Just Won’t Let Go. If they “correct” the slightest detail to try to poke holes in your arguments, that can descend into calling The Other Side things like idiots, evildoers, conspiracy theorists, Nazis, whatever.

And that’s just toilet-paper over vs under, crumple vs fold, “Laurel” vs “Yanni”, you name it. Doesn’t need to be politix or religion or anything.

And this is why we can’t have Nice Things.

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Not likely we’ll ever get over that hump. you think?

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Lightbringer wrote:

And like a dog with a chew-rag, they Just Won’t Let Go.

And that’s just toilet-paper over vs under, crumple vs fold, “Laurel” vs “Yanni”, you name it. Doesn’t need to be politix or religion or anything.

And this is why we can’t have Nice Things.

+1, just gotta luv Bender bringin the Light.

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bushmaster wrote:
Interesting use of cute quotation marks—( ‘deadly pestilence’)
So you are mocking the severity of a virus that’s killed 450,000 Americans?

Believe it or not, some people die every year from complications of the common cold.

I mock fear itself.

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