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If you wear a mask below the nose because your glasses fog then don’t expect your mask to do much. If you only wear a mask to comply with some rule then it’s a different matter. Of course if the fogging causes an actual safety issue you must rectify it by any means as it will be more dangerous than the virus.

Masks with good fit will fog your glasses way less than poorly fitting masks. I find that a N95 or a good fitting surgical mask will fog my glasses much less than a KN95 with earloops or a cloth mask (I don’t have any KN94 to compare).

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I had to look down when he passed me so he couldn’t see me Smirking

Around my area cases are way down and things are pretty much back to normal as normal can get — I was totally floored today going get a massage that they required mask and took my temp —- The therapist just kind of nodded in the room that it was cool to take it off

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Different kind of “happy ending”?

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Ahh — The simple pleasures in life —- No Fricken Mask

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chops728 wrote:
I had to look down when he passed me so he couldn’t see me Smirking

Around my area cases are way down and things are pretty much back to normal as normal can get — I was totally floored today going get a massage that they required mask and took my temp —- The therapist just kind of nodded in the room that it was cool to take it off

I can only only imagine you had to “look down”… Wink Big Smile

I could us a massage right now after cutting grass & working in the yard much of the day.
It was hot & muggy. My old arse is about whipped… Tired

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ggf31416 wrote:
If you wear a mask below the nose because your glasses fog then don’t expect your mask to do much. If you only wear a mask to comply with some rule then it’s a different matter. Of course if the fogging causes an actual safety issue you must rectify it by any means as it will be more dangerous than the virus.

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All of the above… ✅
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I just heard on the radio & verified it online, there is now a Delta Plus Variant.

That is all…. ✅

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ShyOne wrote:
I just heard on the radio & verified it online, there is now a Delta Plus Variant.

That is all…. ✅


It has been circulating here and in other countries for (at least) 3 weeks now.
A news on BBC (Delta plus India: Scientists say too early to tell risk of Covid-19 variant) on the 23rd June states:
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that the so-called Delta plus variant – also known as AY.1 – spreads more easily, binds more easily to lung cells and is potentially resistant to monoclonal antibody therapy, a potent intravenous infusion of antibodies to neutralise the virus.

Still, by that time it was still too early to assess it’s threat level.

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I got my 1st dose of vaccine this morning. Party
It was from Pfizer, and the 2nd dose is scheduled for the 6th August.

So far so good, I don’t feel effects other than on the place it was received, that sometimes reminds me it is there, specially when lifting the arm up (which has been a common thing among my friends and even girlfriend).

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When variants significantly start avoiding vaccins, like: you go to hospital and may die despite fully vaccinated, you have my attention.

Then the rich countries are punished for not vaccinating the entire world ASAP and let the giant variant factory persist.

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When variants significantly start avoiding vaccins, like: you go to hospital and may die despite fully vaccinated, you have my attention.

Then the rich countries are punished for not vaccinating the entire world ASAP and let the giant variant factory persist.

I don’t recall news of variants before the vaccine rollout.

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djozz wrote:
When variants significantly start avoiding vaccins, like: you go to hospital and may die despite fully vaccinated, you have my attention.

Then the rich countries are punished for not vaccinating the entire world ASAP and let the giant variant factory persist.

I don’t recall news of variants before the vaccine rollout.


There were variants from the start but the really nasty ones started to take over at the time of the first vaccinations. But they were not caused by the vaccinations, they were caused by the huge numbers of infections in the world, mutation rate is a random thing so is lineairly related to the number of virus particles present.
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Let’s hope this doesn’t begin to resemble the Marek’s disease vaccine situation.

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What kind of a sane person would take a vaccine blindly without checking the background of the companies behind these vaccines.. Really !!!

Read this if you dare:

18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-wont-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

Seems like some kind of mass hypnosis, or black magic or something !!!

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As for the “experiences” from these things called “vaccines” that I know of, our neighbor’s (3 buildings away) son in law – 35 years old – died 4 days after taking the vaccine in Dubai. He had 3 young children they are here now in Damascus, Syria with their mother.

Few months ago, a jeweler who went to the US also died after a week of taking the vaccine.

My uncle in Germany and my aunt in Austria and their families took the Pfizer, a sore arm and tiredness.. my aunt is still tired most of the time… I hope nothing happens in the long term.

Few relatives in the US took the vaccines – haven’t asked them which ones – sore arms and headaches for few days…

Some friends and relatives have taken the vaccine in my country, we have AstraZeneca and the Russian vaccines.
one of my mother’s friends had the Trigeminal neuralgia.

Could it be from the PCR test swabs after so many tests ?!
As far as I know there are very sensitive nerves and bone in that area where they stick that long thingy inside people’s head !!

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Mike173 wrote:
What kind of a sane person would take a vaccine blindly without checking the background of the companies behind these vaccines.. Really !!!

Read this if you dare:

Please don’t assume that we are blind and/or insane. I’m sure that those here who have received it as well as those who don’t want it have researched it and arrived at their own conclusions. But that’s not a topic for a flashlight forum and should not be discussed here. This thread is for personal experiences only.

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A question ONLY for anyone in the USA (who might care to answer) who is, or will soon be; fully vaccinated.

  • Phizer is recommending a booster shot.
  • CDC & FDA say, at this point; a booster shot is not necessary.

If given a choice, which advice do you take??

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I want a booster. I only had one shot of J&J in March.

I asked my doctor, and was told boosters are not yet authorized, and to check back for new CDC guidance in August.

I know someone that had covid, and got antibody testing each month after they recovered. The antibodies disappeared after 3 months. So to me, that means the protection wears off. This is not a lifetime immunity situation, it is different than measles, chicken pox, and polio.

The latest info I have seen, suggests that my vaccine continues to work for 6 months or more. I would like to be tested for antibodies, to confirm Im still protected.

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I want a booster. I only had one shot of J&J in March.

I asked my doctor, and was told boosters are not yet authorized, and to check back for new CDC guidance in August.

Does anything prevent you from just walking in and getting a Pfizer/Moderna shot? Or even another J&J jab? Do they check your prior vaccine history first? Or by “booster” do you mean a new tweaked version that might exist in the future?

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I’m going to wait and see. If things go backwards next winter and news of vaccinated people getting seriously sick goes up then yes I will get a booster. I was encouraged by news of antibody evidence found in bone marrow but not showing up in regular tests.

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Does anything prevent you from just walking in and getting a Pfizer/Moderna shot?

I tried that, but it is not an option.

to get a shot, I must apply to the Health Department, my name must be on the list approved by the Health Department, when I go to one of the places that administers the shots., and the Health Department wont give me that approval, because Im already vaccinated, until the CDC (US Federal Govt Center for Disease Control) authorizes boosters..

the word booster does not necessarily mean a different design of vaccine.. I would be happy to just get a shot of any of the available vaccines.

Here in USA there are still many places that have failed to achieve a 50% vaccination rate. And those people are travelling, without masks on. They come from places that have no Mask Mandate. In fact, the CDC has lifted the mask mandate nationwide now. Technically the no mask option is supposed to be only for people that are fully vaccinated. But there is no way to tell if a person with no mask is vaccinated, or simply chose not to cooperate.

At present, the available vaccines are reserved for people that have not had any.

its kind of like going to a banquet dinner, and everybody gets served, before anybody gets seconds… Right now, half the people in USA, have not been served the first course, and half of those do not want to eat.

this has created a huge reserve of unvaccinated people who are passing the corona around. Unvaccinated people now represent the largest portion of people infected, and dying, in this country. But they are not just a risk to themselves, it affects everyone they come in contact with.

From where I sit, the large number of people who are refusing the vaccine, are my main risk. The unvaccinated are the reason I want to extend my protection, by getting another shot.

I have not seen my family in Cali in almost 2 years. I do not feel protected enough to go travelling through airports, on a 4 month old vaccine. fwiw, the J&J vaccine I got was a single shot, and has a lower protection rate than the dual shot vaccines.

this is also true of people that had covid, they are less protected than people that are vaccinated. Unvaccinated people that had covid, can catch it again. But most people that had covid, mistakenly think they are immune for life, so they do not wear masks either.

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I’ve been struggling with the same dilemma about travel as has jon_slider. I have been concerned not only with infecting my elderly father (88), but also with trying not to infect other people who might not be vaccinated or immune for various reasons. I haven’t seen my father, and my brother and his family, since November, 2019. I was hoping that the pandemic would have calmed enough by the late summer or autumn that I could travel by airline and it would be fine, although I had decided to skip the Thanksgiving crowds this year. However, with the onslaught of the new variants and the increase in infections in many areas, that did not come to pass. The new variants are more infectious by far than the old.

My father had his vaccinations before I did. I had my second shot in mid-April. My sister, who is a medical doctor and epidemiologist, has been traveling since she was vaccinated last winter. I’ve been more cautious. Other doctors, when I asked for advice on whether to travel and risk airports and airplanes, said: “You have the other side of the risk, also – that your father is getting older and time is passing.” They advised me to travel while my vaccines are still effective.

Pfizer said last week that, based on the reported results of a study in Israel, it is seeing waning of its vaccine’s effectiveness at preventing infection and preventing serious illness at around six months post vaccination. The reported effectiveness in preventing serious illness after six months in that study was down to about 64%. I am guessing that the CDC does not now agree with Pfizer’s recommendation that we get boosters if we had that company’s vaccine because there is not yet enough evidence to show that definitively. They probably want to see the results of at least another study – preferably from the USA – but that’s just a guess on my part.

I’m still not sure what to do – but I think what I’m going to do is to make airline reservations to visit my family before the six-month mark after my second shot (if I can get reservations). I will also maybe wear an N95 mask, or possibly a ASTM Level 3 mask, when I travel. I will also probably maintain some distance between me and my family, just to be on the safe side, especially with my father. And of course, wash my hands when I get to my destination.

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Everyone in my family is vaccinated, except for a 2 year old grand daughter, and we’ve taken several flights in the last month to help one of our daughter’s move for a job change. My wife and I were vaccinated (1st shot of Moderna 2/28) and the other 4 in our family afterwards (J&J or Pfizer). Obviously we wore masks in the airport and plane per regulations, and when shopping or otherwise indoors but not when walking around (Los Angeles and Seattle).

None of us got sick and hopefully that will remain the case when we make the final move-in trip in 2 weeks.

If it was me I’d go visit your dad as long as everyone was vaccinated and other precautions that you mentioned were taken. Sooner the better I think given the declining effectiveness from the initial shots. Of course it’s a personally decision that only you can make.

As soon as booster shots are authorized or able to be taken I’m going in for one. Thumbs Up

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this is also true of people that had covid, they are less protected than people that are vaccinated. Unvaccinated people that had covid, can catch it again. But most people that had covid, mistakenly think they are immune for life, so they do not wear masks either.

But if vaccine X is “90% effective”, what about that leftover 10%? They could be walking around thinking they’re “protected” and end up a breakthrough case, and get it and spread it, even though they have the imprimatur of being “fully vaccinated” and allowed to walk around unmasked.

So those situations aren’t all that different. Whether you got the bug and think you’re immune, or got the vax and think you’re immune, it’s the same thing.

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Based upon my experience with my second Moderna I will be waiting as long as I feel I can before getting any additional shots.

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From what I have read & been told by Medical Professionals I know… noboby really knows the real absolute truth yet about these infection, re-infection speculations regarding vaccinated & unvaccinated people who have already had CV.

Apparently both can be infected & re-infected with CV. But each group should have a milder case if re-infected.

Both catagories can spread the CV if re-infected… whether they know they have it or not.

There are no firm & fast rules that apply & can be considered fact at this point.

Time will tell, much is still unknown.

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Lightbringer wrote:
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this is also true of people that had covid, they are less protected than people that are vaccinated. Unvaccinated people that had covid, can catch it again. But most people that had covid, mistakenly think they are immune for life, so they do not wear masks either.

But if vaccine X is “90% effective”, what about that leftover 10%? They could be walking around thinking they’re “protected” and end up a breakthrough case, and get it and spread it, even though they have the imprimatur of being “fully vaccinated” and allowed to walk around unmasked.

So those situations aren’t all that different. Whether you got the bug and think you’re immune, or got the vax and think you’re immune, it’s the same thing.

I’m no infectious disease expert or epidemiologist, but it seems to me that, in calculating the probability that you’re going to get significantly ill from Covid-19, you need to look at both the probability that you’ll get infected, and the probability that getting infected will give you serious illness. Looking at both of those factors, it seems to me that being vaccinated provides a longer protection, even if you’ve already been infected with SARS-Covid-2. The reasons for that are that the protective effect from the vaccination in boosting your antibodies to the virus seems to last longer than the protective effect of contracting the virus, and also the probability that you will get seriously ill if you contract the virus and are vaccinated is very low, because the vaccines are very effective at preventing serious illness. In addition, recent scientific reports on studies of health care front-line workers indicate that the mRNA vaccines also seem to significantly lower the risk of being infected with the virus in the first place (link to reports not posted due to forum rules).

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I received the J&J in March.
I think I want a booster.
I am in NM like jon_slider and couldn’t get one right now by any legal means.

Part of me is skeptical about Pfizer’s declaration. They do have a financial interest in selling more vaccines and if the CDC stated it was a good thing to do they would have millions of people here in the US lining up to get a booster. Part of me wants to believe they also might also want to benefit the general public health.

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Careful, friends, we’re treading on dangerous ground. Remember; personal experience— not personal opinion, not recent hearsay. Not that those are necessarily bad but they almost always escalate into something more.

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As I wrote before, I took my first Pfizer shot last friday. Only had slight pain in the arm, put some ice several times in the same day and didn’t have any other symptoms besides that. So far so good. Thumbs Up

Also, some data from my country: in almost 3.000.000 people with the vaccination complete, only 3.850 got infected. This is 0,1% of the vaccinated people (not the country’s population). This proves that the vaccines are not 100% effective, but I guess it proves more that without them the scenario would be far worse. I haven’t searched about how many of those 3580 people had severe symptoms or needed to go to hospital.

70% of the adult population here has taken at least 1 shot.

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MtnDon wrote:
Part of me wants to believe they also might also want to benefit the general public health.

Part of me knows that if money wasnt involved, they would be doing something else. Greed is the motivation for almost everything now.

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