For zooming lovers, the new M12 Keygos with 26650

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For zooming lovers, the new M12 Keygos with 26650

I have just seen this new light, and once again I am tempted to get it haha.

The lens looks like could be a 38mm one more or less which might be a nice flashlight.

19.9+9.99 shipping, is not that bad for what it offers, if it is good..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/26650-18650-1600Lm-CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-Flashlig...

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Good find! Looks decently made, there is room for improvement/tweaking i think but pretty dandy. Of course 1600 lumens my arse. Doesen't look phyisically very appealing but not cheezy at all.

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nice find!  that pill looks pretty good, assuming they didn't drill through the middle

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It looks kind of expensive to me. Granted I haven't checked prices on too many XM-L zoom lights but the XR-E version would be $14 with free shipping.

What do you think...600 lumens?

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XM-L + zoom = lots of wasted light. XM-L has wide beam angle, in throw focus aspherical lens can waste even 50% of light!

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seems the fins on the head wouldn't help cool, but would be great for gitd orings Smile

$30 does seem a little high.  We'll see when it shows up elsewhere...

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For me XM-L and 38mm lens diameter is a good thing, it does not throw as much as an XR-E with the same lens, but it trhows quite a bit, more than XR-E with smaller lenses as the typical X2000, and in flood it is great.

I am very tempted with this one, but after getting the X8, I will wait a bit, and I am also waiting for a pair of lenses to check with, so I will just keep an eye on it, and add it to my wish list.

And yes, it is a bit expensive, but they know 26650 are getting popular, and most lights for that battery are a bit overpriced, so Keygos also wants their part of the cake with a concept others did not do yet.

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I ordered this flashlight yesterday. I'm curious to see what it's like.

The funny part is I don't plan to use this flashlight as it is designed, as a flood-to-throw.

My intention is to use this light as my "walkabout" flooder. My plan right now is to remove the zooming head to expose the pill, install glass over the emitter, and then wear the light (sans the head) in my Nite Ize swivel holster. We'll see if this new light is a worthy replacement for my UltraFire P10-R5, which is my current "immediate vicinity" flooder.

Extremely compact and light, the P10-R5 has been extremely useful in this role. Without the reflector or bezel, and with only a glass lens installed, the P10 produces a very wide curtain of light, and operating from the swivel holster makes it so convenient to use.

I'm hoping this Keygos has mode memory, or that it always starts on high... It will be heavier than the P10 for sure, but the 26650 should offer longer runtimes on a light that I anticipate using constantly. I'm curious to see if XML offers a wider curtain of light too. Well see.

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Night Breaker wrote:

I ordered this flashlight yesterday. I'm curious to see what it's like.

The funny part is I don't plan to use this flashlight as it is designed, as a flood-to-throw.

My intention is to use this light as my "walkabout" flooder. My plan right now is to remove the zooming head to expose the pill, install glass over the emitter, and then wear the light (sans the head) in my Nite Ize swivel holster. We'll see if this new light is a worthy replacement for my UltraFire P10-R5, which is my current "immediate vicinity" flooder.

Extremely compact and light, the P10-R5 has been extremely useful in this role. Without the reflector or bezel, and with only a glass lens installed, the P10 produces a very wide curtain of light, and operating from the swivel holster makes it so convenient to use.

I'm hoping this Keygos has mode memory, or that it always starts on high... It will be heavier than the P10 for sure, but the 26650 should offer longer runtimes on a light that I anticipate using constantly. I'm curious to see if XML offers a wider curtain of light too. Well see.

Tell us how good it is as a flood to throw before you mod it pleasem and yes, it has 5 modes.

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That looks very similar to an Ultrafire one that wasn't considered to be very good.  1600 lumens is such a ridiculus lie that I would want to avoid it entirely.

There is a Yezl flood to throw that seems to be a bit better.  Heres a review link that shows both teh yezl and the ultrafire that I was discussing.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/3523

 

Bottom line seems to be that the throw on XM-L is really awful because the emitter is so freaking fat and not very directional.

 

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joe1512 wrote:

That looks very similar to an Ultrafire one that wasn't considered to be very good.  1600 lumens is such a ridiculus lie that I would want to avoid it entirely.

There is a Yezl flood to throw that seems to be a bit better.  Heres a review link that shows both teh yezl and the ultrafire that I was discussing.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/3523

 

Bottom line seems to be that the throw on XM-L is really awful because the emitter is so freaking fat and not very directional.

 

joe1512, the good thing of it, it works with 26650, which will give a better runtime on a relatively compact light, and if you do not like XM-L for flood to throw lights, you could replace it by an XR-E with about 3 hours of runtime on high.

It is more a thing of taste in my opinion, I really like XM-L with big lenses, it throws less than XR-E yes, but throws a good distance, and the flood is its better thing when the lens is well designed, it shows an homogeneous huge circle.

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yavi wrote:
I have just seen this new light, and once again I am tempted to get it haha. The lens looks like could be a 38mm one more or less which might be a nice flashlight. 19.9+9.99 shipping, is not that bad for what it offers, if it is good..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/26650-18650-1600Lm-CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-Flashlig... won an ebay auction on this light, with charger and two 26650 batteries, can't wait to try it out Smile

 

 

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did you pay $30 or less?

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dthrckt wrote:
did you pay $30 or less?
Close, $29.55 Smile

 

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Good price toysareforboys,

I want to wait, but I began eating my nails, and I have reached my elbows already!! Haha.

I hope you like it, and let us know as soon as possible how it performs.

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I hope you like it, and let us know as soon as possible how it performs.
Will do, but damn shipping from China to Canada ain't fast Wink

 

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Finally got my new light, charged up the batteries (took forever! lol).

 

Thread here: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/7494

 

-Jamie M.

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Can you paste the ebay link where you won it?

Can't seem to find it with batteries and charger at $30, only the flashlight itself at that price.

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viktori wrote:
Can you paste the ebay link where you won it? Can't seem to find it with batteries and charger at $30, only the flashlight itself at that price.
My ebay history says item not found. It was from this seller for this item: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/26650-1600Lm-CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoomable-KEYGOS-M12-Charger-/140681815820?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Camping_LightsLanternsTorches&hash=item20c14a270c#ht_5331wt_1163

 

It had a few bids on it and was up to $9CAD, so I bid $11CAD and won it Smile With shipping and everything it was around $30CAD.

 

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Thanks,

When did you order this? It looks like the prices spiked quite high. You can get M12 with 2x 26650 and charger for $55 now. Sad

Your deal looks great comparing to current prices.

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viktori wrote:
When did you order this? It looks like the prices spiked quite high. You can get M12 with 2x 26650 and charger for $55 now. :(
Yeah, it doesn't look like they do auctions starting at $1 any more? The auction I won ended on Jan 15th.

 

Hopefully they list more for auction instead of just buy it now, I guess keep an eye on his ebay store.

 

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Has anyone got it yet?
Yep! Very comfortable to hold. Super crazy long run times on 26650's (I haven't charged the battery yet and have been using it tons!). Love it. After I cleaned the LED and painted the internals black, it works great now Smile

 

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viktori wrote:

Here it is again, Keygos M12 + batteries + charger, available for $24.99 shipped:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1600-Lumens-CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoomable-KEYGOS-M12-18650-SET-/330672004335?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item4cfd965cef#ht_5343wt_1114

 

Viktor

 

Have you seen the picture of the reflector on ebay?  It's got fingerprints all over it!  Must come as standard, instead of putting a little sticker on telling you who built the light, he leaves his fingerprints and DNA all over the reflector.  Cool!

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marcl wrote:

viktori wrote:

Here it is again, Keygos M12 + 2x 18650 batteries + charger, available for $24.99 shipped:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1600-Lumens-CREE-XM-L-XML-T6-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoomable-KEYGOS-M12-18650-SET-/330672004335?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item4cfd965cef#ht_5343wt_1114

 

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Have you seen the picture of the reflector on ebay?  It's got fingerprints all over it!  Must come as standard, instead of putting a little sticker on telling you who built the light, he leaves his fingerprints and DNA all over the reflector.  Cool!

Marc.

Hehe. Smile

It's not a reflector, though, it's an aluminum protection that needs to be painted black anyway. Wink

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But this is with 18650 batteries (and very low quality ones) and with very cheap charger. 

Previous offer was with 26650 cells and 26650 charger.  

If quality of the 26650 battery can be judged by comparing to the quality of the 186650, then I'd rather buy a proper 26650 separately.

The whole package price here is cheaper than just M12 on other ebay deals so I've ordered one.

After it arrives and I thoroughly test it I'll probably order a 26650 or a pair separately.

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I ordered for $25 today.  Sorta feel like I should have waited for the 26650 offer at $30 but I'd rather have IMR 26650s

Anybody up on the best price for those?

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dthrckt wrote:
I ordered for $25 today.  Sorta feel like I should have waited for the 26650 offer at $30 but I'd rather have IMR 26650s
I ordered my 26650's from here: http://www.intl-outdoor.com/kingkong-26650-4000mah-liion-battery-p-136.html

 

Run time seems the same as the Keygos 26650's that came with it (on the right) Smile

 

The charger and batteries that came with the light:

 

LICK FOR HIGH RES!

 

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do the keygos say IMR on them?

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dthrckt wrote:
do the keygos say IMR on them?
They do not. They do not list the battery chemistry anywhere on the wrapper. My king kong ones I linked above say "INR" on them.

 

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probably same ones I'll get

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