Ultrafire C3 Cree XP-G R5 1 Mode (AA/14500)... nice price

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Ultrafire C3 Cree XP-G R5 1 Mode (AA/14500)... nice price

Manafont has some interesting lights these days and from the pictures it really appears to be an XP-G R5, making it the cheapest XP-G light with 14.90... too bad it's single mode... care to review? ... someone?

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That's a pretty decent price compared to the Trustfire R5-A3. It can also use 14500.

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I already changed the topic, got confused by the warning: Do not use 2 x 14500 battery + extension tube

By looking at the threads, it appears to be the old, problematic body with the short threads. I already had a bad C3 (P4) once, so I wait for the DX order with the grey/silver (XR-E Q5) one to arrive.

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Wow, nice job on the photography, they actually took a closeup of the LED so we can buy with a bit more confidence. Well done, Manafont!

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Yeah I'm impressed with that closeup pic of the LED.

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I realized that we didn't have Manafont in our budget dealer ratings section.

http://budgetlightforum.cz.cc/node/719

The closeups of the LED were a suggestion that I gave them when they asked if I had any tips for them to improve in their customer relationship. And here they are doing it. They are really aiming to please. In fact I am working with them on some custom BLF flashlight mods right now.

 

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I'd be on this one like a shot if I hadn't bought quite enough lights this month. The multi-mode C3's in the past (other than the stainless steel ones) earned an evil reputation and are not recommended, hopefully they will come up with a 3-4 mode driver with this LED and no £$%^&%^* flashing modes. That I'd buy in a heartbeat.

 

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Don wrote:

I'd be on this one like a shot if I hadn't bought quite enough lights this month. The multi-mode C3's in the past (other than the stainless steel ones) earned an evil reputation and are not recommended, hopefully they will come up with a 3-4 mode driver with this LED and no £$%^&%^* flashing modes. That I'd buy in a heartbeat.

Sounds like a good project for a custom BLF mod. You might try contacting Manafont, they are very accommodating.  Of course it also depends on Ultrafire's willingness to cooperate with the custom driver, but I bet they could do it.  Maybe the 3-mode super-efficient driver from the Manafont Ultrafire C3 SS?

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I have very mixed experience with Ultrafire - 3xC3 (P4) all flickered, 504b - great, 501b - bad switch,  3xC3 SS - 2 were (old 93mm) great - one (new 98 mm) bad. I would rather see someone like Tank007, Romisen, Hugsby or Solarforce do some nice custom BLF mods. If the main body of the flashlight isn't reliable.... the brightest LEDs and the best drivers (current regulated, 4-mode with 3 fixed and one infinite ramping mode with adjustable memory  Sealed) are worthless.

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Very interesting this light. Pity the old desing (threads)

 

Why DX doesnt bring us the Ultrafire U20 and this new C3 xpg R5?

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Vectrex wrote:

 I would rather see someone like Tank007, Romisen, Hugsby or Solarforce do some nice custom BLF mods.

I would also like to see this.  But I think some of these companies are rather distant and monolithic, sort of like DealExtreme.  Manafont asked Ultrafire about their availability for custom mods, but they haven't received any useful reply yet from Ultrafire. I would also like to see some custom Tank007 models, they have some really nice products. Maybe they'll be able to work something out with them.

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Tank007 would be nice.

 

Like you say, they already have some very nice lights. Two of the three I have have given no problems at all, the third was a cracked solder joint which was easily fixed once I got in there.

http://www.jayki.com/5538

 

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My dream-light with already available components Hugsby P31/P32 Body / neutral XP-G R4 LED / Shiningbeam 3-mode 900mA low voltage no strobes driver. But that MrLite J4 is also very promising .. I'm just not sure about those TIRs... I need the sidespill.

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Shiningbeam gets custom Romisens ... why can't we?.... I think we must recruit some Chinese members as translators.

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Mine would be a fully sorted C3 - the new aluminium ones come close enough, with a driver that can ramp from 2mA to 1500mA to the LED - like the Solarforce Skyline 1 but starting on low.

 

Also a reflector designed for the R5 and enough mass in the head to heatsink an R5 at full power. Make the head out of copper, chroming it if necessary for hardness.

 

I want a good beam and colour, a little wider than the Romisen RC-G2 whose beam is too narrow, but with throw numbers better than the Hugsby P31/32. This should be perfectly feasible due to the sheer output of an R5.

 

Oh yes, and I want it to run from a single NiMH - which means an AA NiMH that doesn't sag like crazy at 6A - Eneloops are good for up to 8A.

 

For under $25!, preferably under $20.

 

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And then we make a BLF meeting in the cloud-castle. Wink

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Vectrex wrote:

And then we make a BLF meeting in the cloud-castle. Wink

 

ArcMania would make one for me with HA3 and bells and whistles but it would probably cost 20x as much. It is perfectly feasible, just not at the price I want to pay....

 

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Vectrex wrote:

I already changed the topic, got confused by the warning: Do not use 2 x 14500 battery + extension tube

By looking at the threads, it appears to be the old, problematic body with the short threads.  I already had a bad C3 (P4) once, so I wait for the DX order with the grey/silver (XR-E Q5) one to arrive.

 

I counted the threads - this has the same threading as the new body though it has the same exterior finish as the old ones (I have 6 of the old ones - on a good day 4 of them will light up without fiddling). The Manafont one has 2 or 3 more turns on the tailcap end. the tailcap end on the old ones was the biggest problem. Which makes me want it more.

 

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Pity only 1 mode, however the price is good for what it offers

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Worth a try....

 

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I think you are right that this is actually the new C3 type rather than the old C3. Check out the depth of the knurling here:

http://www.manafont.com/imagelibrary.php?src=ns3W19DJ2JHo7M6jn5Odr6Gbk5Wn5NXZ&w=600&h=600&f=jpg&q=90&hash=e562268e1f23225c2d1cc34a362c09de

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to have a 17mm driver board. It would be easy to swap it with a http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6190. These can be customised to three modes with jumpers and with an addidional 7135 chip it think might work just fine.

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Mmm... very tempting, but... which one of these logos are the real one? New Manafont flashlights, one of them could be a cheap copy Undecided

Ultrafire U20 logo and Ultrafire C3 R5

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Sometimes copies of Ultrafires are better than the original.

@Oldienea: That driver would make it 14500 only, so you would loose AA support.

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LOL Laughing OK, but which one is the original?

UPDATE: well, found this logo @ Ultrafire official site.

UPDATE2: Ha ha, another logo: http://www.ultrafire.net/pic/M88.JPG

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Don wrote:

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I already changed the topic, got confused by the warning: Do not use 2 x 14500 battery + extension tube

By looking at the threads, it appears to be the old, problematic body with the short threads.  I already had a bad C3 (P4) once, so I wait for the DX order with the grey/silver (XR-E Q5) one to arrive.

 

I counted the threads - this has the same threading as the new body though it has the same exterior finish as the old ones (I have 6 of the old ones - on a good day 4 of them will light up without fiddling). The Manafont one has 2 or 3 more turns on the tailcap end. the tailcap end on the old ones was the biggest problem. Which makes me want it more.

 

I always had bad contacts at the head of the light... this was on 3xC3 the case. What could be a sign of longer threads, is the little gap between battery tube and head. I have sworn to myself to never buy UFs any more, where I don't have reviews to check for build quality on the main body, being the guinea pig on UFs is a pain. And even if there are good reviews, you might get something totally different with the next batch... how many different UF C3 are there? ... 10, 20... ?

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I think the logos on UF depend on which day of week we have... Mondays it's TLTRAFIRE... because the logomaker partied to much on the weekend. You don't need someone else to worsen the quality, UF can do this themselves. Think of it as UltraLottery. You might get the best flashlight there is, or a doorstop.

http://a.imageshack.us/img227/3103/tltrafire.jpg

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SashiX wrote:

 

 

I see they've outsourced their graphic design to an institution for the blind. Or someone on the web team needs to learn about scaling images.

 

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Hahahaha Laughing LOL Yeah, at this point and taking into account that Ultrafire lights are budget lights, we shouldn't complain if it's a copy or not Laughing

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Hi guys! There is any discount coupon for this flashlight at manafont????

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Vectrex wrote:

I think the logos on UF depend on which day of week we have... Mondays it's TLTRAFIRE... because the logomaker partied to much on the weekend. You don't need someone else to worsen the quality, UF can do this themselves. Think of it as UltraLottery. You might get the best flashlight there is, or a doorstop.

http://a.imageshack.us/img227/3103/tltrafire.jpg

 

Are you sure that second letters not a capital 'i'.Sealed

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